never had one, i don't think
is compulsive over here. I did have a
check on my cervix at my first antenatal
apptthough because cervical cancer runs in
my family
um if youre a mom youve had one unless you
are going to a spiritual doctor or
something
Nope, i asked if that's what she was doing
when i went and see said she was just
feeling to check, i have no idea how you
feel for cancer but hey i'm not a doctor!
The only internals i had were that and to
see if i was dilated in labour, oh and a
membrane sweep
So, are you going to ask your doctor why
this hasn't been done yet? (Especially
since you said cervical cancer runs in
your family.)
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Posted: 11-27-07 19:35pm
I had my first pap when I was 15 and
wanted on the pill...
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Dannzibelle
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Posted: 11-28-07 10:46am
futureshock
wrote:
Dannzibelle
wrote:
jessamyn
wrote:
Dannzibelle
wrote:
never had one, i don't think
is compulsive over here. I did have a
check on my cervix at my first antenatal
apptthough because cervical cancer runs in
my family
um if youre a mom youve had one unless you
are going to a spiritual doctor or
something
Nope, i asked if that's what she was doing
when i went and see said she was just
feeling to check, i have no idea how you
feel for cancer but hey i'm not a doctor!
The only internals i had were that and to
see if i was dilated in labour, oh and a
membrane sweep
So, are you going to ask your doctor why
this hasn't been done yet? (Especially
since you said cervical cancer runs in
your family.)
I'm going to the doctor's tommorow for
Mika's shots so i'm going to ask the nurse
then
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Posted: 11-28-07 10:55am
do you guys go to a mom/kiddo doc?
you should truly be asking a obgyn not a
nurse
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Posted: 11-28-07 11:09am
futureshock
wrote:
rosejackson
wrote:
i've never had one and i
dont know if or when i have to have
one
Do you have an OBGYN that you see
regularly?
For anyone who wants more information
about PAP tests, here is a source:
No i don't. No-one's even mentioned
regular pap tests, even when i went on the
injection after having william. the only
time ive had internal examinations was
when i had a urine infection and when i
was in labour
i'm really curious on this subject and
will mention it to my mum or the midwife
when i first see her
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Posted: 11-28-07 11:34am
jessamyn
wrote:
do you guys go to a
mom/kiddo doc?
you should truly be asking a obgyn not a
nurse
just the normal doctors, i'm just gunna
see what she says about paps in the Uk and
if it's because i'm in the uk that i
haven't had one to see what she says and
then make an appointment with the
apropiate doctor
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Posted: 11-28-07 14:38pm
when you find out, let me know because im
finding it interesting why no-ones
mentioned anything yet
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Good, I'm glad you ladies in the U.K. are
going to look into it.
Here is info from the U.K. It looks just
like the advice given in the U.S.:
A Pap test, named after Dr. George
Papanicolaou who designed the test, is a
screening test to collect and
microscopically examine cells taken from
the cervix, the lower, narrow part of the
uterus (womb) located between the bladder
and the rectum. The cervix forms a canal
that opens into the vagina, which leads to
the outside of the body. With a Pap test,
cells can be collected from the vagina as
well as the cervix.
Who should have Pap tests?
Women should seek expert medical advice
about when they should begin screening,
how often they should be screened, and
when they can discontinue cervical
screenings, especially if they are at
higher than average risk of cervical
cancer due to factors such as HIV
infection.
According to the National Cancer Institute
(NCI), the American Cancer Society (ACS),
and the American College of Obstetrics
(ACOG), general guidelines include:
* Cervical cancer screening should
begin approximately three years after a
woman begins having sexual intercourse,
but no later than at 21 years old.
* Experts recommend waiting
approximately three years following the
initiation of sexual activity because
transient human papillomavirus (HPV)
infections and cervical cell changes that
are not significant are common and it
takes years for a significant abnormality
or cancer to develop. Cervical cancer is
extremely rare in women under the age of
25.
* Women should have a Pap test at
least once every three years.
* ACS and ACOG recommend annual
cervical cytology screening with regular
Pap tests or biannual (every two years)
screening with liquid-based tests
(Thinprep) until age 30. Women under age
30 have a higher likelihood than older
women of acquiring high-risk types of HPV
that cause premalignant cervical disease,
which should be ruled out before extending
the testing intervals.
for more, click on the link above
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Altari
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Posted: 11-29-07 18:32pm
I have been getting yearly pap smears
since I turned 15. When I had my first pap
done, it was because of a UTI. The doctor
I saw was very sympathetic when I
explained that I was sexually active. She
insisted upon doing a pap, and billed it
as an exam for the UTI. It actually WAS an
exam as part of the UTI to ensure it
wasn't caused by some kind of STD.
However, my parents were never informed
that I was having the pap due to sexual
activity. You do have certain rights to
medical privacy.
Paps are like ALL other diagnostic tests.
They give you an age when you should start
- generally 18-21. However, just like they
tell women with a family history of breast
cancer to receive mammograms earlier in
life, sexual active teens should also have
a pap.
They really are painless. They are quite
uncomfortable, but they don't [I should
say "shouldn't"] hurt.
I have a friend who was saved by having
her first pap early in life. She had one
at 16, and they discovered pre-cancerous
cervical cells. Had she waited until she
was 20 to have her first pap, she probably
would have died.
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Posted: 11-29-07 23:41pm
*smacks self on forehead*
I didn't even think of this as a reason
for not having had a pap test yet:
Quote:
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The doctor I saw was very sympathetic when
I explained that I was sexually active.
She insisted upon doing a pap, and billed
it as an exam for the UTI. It actually WAS
an exam as part of the UTI to ensure it
wasn't caused by some kind of STD.
However, my parents were never informed
that I was having the pap due to sexual
activity. You do have certain rights to
medical privacy.
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Dannzibelle
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Posted: 12-01-07 10:23am
She just told me that it's not done at my
age aparently
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rosejackson
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Posted: 12-01-07 14:19pm
what age does it start at?
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Dannzibelle
wrote:
She just told me that it's
not done at my age
aparently
Well, you know better because you've seen
the links posted right here that say
otherwise.
I wonder if it's an insurance thing? I
bet that the insurance companies made up
some random rule so they wouldn't have to
pay for pap tests for younger people.
(Or, whoever in the U.K. is responsible
for the medical care budget, as opposed to
insurance companies in the U.S.)
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The following article is interesting to
read in light of the recent discussion.
Click on the link to read it.
Pros and Cons of
Pap Tests for Teens
This was also a part of the above
referenced article, which I found
interesting. How do some of you feel
about this:
"Some teen girls practice fingering, oral
and anal sex, and even group sex, with the
perception that they have not had sex
because they have not experienced
penetration of the vagina by the penis and
will not get pregnant. They may not
realize that they can contract a sexually
transmitted disease from these practices
as well.
It's also important to understand that
most young girls do not find these
activities pleasurable but do them as a
means of keeping their boyfriends. And
boys often resort to drugs or alcohol to
diminish girls' inhibitions.
The physician needs to ask about these and
other sexual practices and tell sexually
active teens that they should be careful
about letting anyone invade their bodies."
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Posted: 12-02-07 16:27pm
futureshock
wrote:
Dannzibelle
wrote:
She just told me that it's
not done at my age
aparently
Well, you know better because you've seen
the links posted right here that say
otherwise.
I wonder if it's an insurance thing? I
bet that the insurance companies made up
some random rule so they wouldn't have to
pay for pap tests for younger people.
(Or, whoever in the U.K. is responsible
for the medical care budget, as opposed to
insurance companies in the
U.S.)
We have the NHS over here which is paid
through taxes so not an insurance thing.
I've got an appointme t with my Gp for
next week for another reason so i will
mention it to him while i'm there, he's
very understanding and a nice person so
hopefully he'll see my concerns
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