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Opiate Addiction Posted: 12-05-07 04:23am
All my life I have been a very socially
anxious person. My nervous personalty has
left me feeling that I have missed out on
so much. That feeling was especially
prominent during my high school years.
When I discovered opiates (morphine,
hydrocodone, etc.) during my senior year
it was a godsend. I kept my vice well
fed, developing a fairly significant
addiction in the process. Two years and
hundreds of pills later (said pills
acquired from a well-connected dealer) I
find it hard to go a day without several
doses. At some point during those two
years i developed a horrid condition that
gives me an agonizing rash whenever I am
put under stress or anxiety. A condition
that affects me only whenever im not on
drugs.
I have gotten to a point where i want to
quit taking opiates, but i simply cannot
imagine living life in a full state of
sobriety. Living without opiates would
mean that i would regress to my pre-drugs
state of constant anxiety. (And along with
anxiety, the agonizing rash.) I need some
advice on how to live without drugs. How
do normal people such as yourselves cope
with the world? Please help!!
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CarolDiane
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Lifes Escapes Posted: 12-05-07 16:19pm
You have to get to the bottom of what it
is in life that is so hard to handle
before you are going to be able to stop
any drug IMHO. You can't start at the end
and work toward the begining. I would
advice you to get some help as soon as
possible. Your finding it to hard to live
in the world of reality without drugs.
Carrie
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Rosie H
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Posted: 12-05-07 17:20pm
I have never been addicted to opiates.
But I do know people that have and still
are. This type of drug is very hard to
overcome because there are so many
physical withdrawls, not just mental. I
was addicted to meth and I went to a 12
step program to overcome my addiction.
But for you it sounds like you may have to
detox your body. Stopping cold turkey may
do you more harm than good. Have you
tried to wean yourself off? Have you
though of checking yourself into a program
(hospital or clinic) that helps you detox?
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Them Bones
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Posted: 12-05-07 20:56pm
thank you both for the advice. To answer
Rosie, yes i have tried to decrease my
intake several times. When the addiction
was still in it's early stages this was
easy, but now i can't really do that
without rationalizing (something I've
gotten very good at) another hit, and then
another. As for detox, that would involve
my friends and family finding out about my
habit. They prob. already have some idea
that somethings up because of my
appearance (pale skin, dark circles under
my eyes) but that wouldn't be good. What i
could do is self administer methadone. I
have tested it and i think i could do it,
but then I think to myself "what do I do
once i'm off the drugs?"
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Rosie H
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Posted: 12-06-07 07:50am
Well you need to tackle one thing at a
time. Dont try to think of life after
pills because you will just get
overwhelmed. Think of what you are going
to do today and maybe this week. But do
not get to ahead of yourself. They say
thats setting yourself up for
disappointment.
I know it seems impossible to tell your
family, but they are going to be the
strongest support you have. I think you
should tell them and ask them for help.
This is totally up to you though. A lot
of people can do it themselves and a lot
of others cant. But your family loves you
and they will help you.
where would you get the methadone?
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CarolDiane
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Posted: 12-06-07 10:33am
I think your friends and family would
rather see you alive and clean.
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butterfly007
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Opiate Addiction Posted: 12-07-07 01:07am
Them Bones, I am so the same as you. I
gave up herion 5 years ago and very
gladful for that. Now after taking
dihydrocodeine I discovered how happy it
makes me. It improves my quality in
life,because I struggle with depression. I
know how dumb it may sound. I am already
on an antidepressant, but I still feel
morbid sometimes. I am recently on
subutex, it works great for the first few
days and then I crave again. I don't know
what to do anymore!??
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Them Bones
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Posted: 12-07-07 01:42am
To Rosie: For me, telling my family is not
an option. I love them a lot and couldn't
bear to tell them the (brutal) truth.
Since I am the oldest of four, there are
siblings who sort of look up to me. If i
let them know about my prob. it might make
them think that it's ok to do what I do,
and it's really not. Not to mention that
they could lose respect for me.
As for the methadone I am VERY lucky in
that I am in a position where I can
relatively easily acquire medication.
Because of that, I have already acquired a
copious amount. Methadone is weird because
they say that it has the same effects as
morphine or heroin, but for me it
doesen't. It just makes my cravings less
severe and thats it. No euphoria.
Something thats deeply troubling me though
is how I am going to get my next batch of
drugs. I am (unfortunately) burning
through my current one very quickly. No
matter how much you have saved up, no
matter how many times you have to screw
people over, you always have to get up and
do it all over again. Another thing that
bothers me is that the drugs don't make me
feel good anymore. I take more because of
my tolerance, but even then it doesen't do
anything! Sometimes I think
about taking the easy way out. (never
seriously tho)
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Them Bones
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Posted: 12-07-07 01:47am
to butterfly: The thing with the
dihydrocodeine is the same as with my
thing with morphine and other opiates: At
first it's good, but as time goes on
things start to worsen. you should know
this considering you've used heroin.
"First it giveth, then it taketh
away"-QOTSA
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Rosie H
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Posted: 12-07-07 09:54am
Wow, you sound just like I did. I have 5
siblings and I am the oldest. I have been
their mother since they were born, more
than our own mother has and ever will be.
My brother 16 at the time, told me he
hated me and that he never wanted to see
my face again if I didnt stop. I cried to
him and told him that I was going to and
that this time would be the last. Well
the very next day I came home and got
high. He saw me, he looked at me with
such a look of disgust and hatred. I was
just like our no show mom. My other
sibling gave me the same reaction. They
didnt want to see me. They are the world
to me. I dont have kids but I love them
like I would my own. This is the worst
feeling I can describe. But it was
necessary for me to stop. I had to see
what I was doing by getting to realize
that I needed to stop. I had to hit my
bottom. I told my father and all of my
friends. I should have blurted it out on
the street.
It sounds like you are a true addict, not
just a recreational drug user. So in
order for you to be rid of this addiction
you have to come out in the open with it.
You have to tell your family. Dont you
think they love you enough to understand?
Some may be angry, but above all else you
are their big brother. By you not telling
your family tells me that you arent truly
ready to give up your addiction. Because
if you were ready you would be willing to
do whatever it takes to get the help you
need.
Please dont be brushed off by me because
of what I just said. This is just some of
things I have learned while overcoming my
own addiction and helping others overcome
theirs. Take what you like and leave the
rest. Please feel free to keep talking to
me though. It sounds like we have a lot
in common. I am here to help
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Them Bones
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Posted: 12-07-07 20:05pm
Wow, thats heart-breaking. How did your
family treat you after you told them that?
I agree with you on one thing, that it is
possible that I am not ready to quit. Like
I said before I cannot imagine having to
live without opiates.
I do think it's time though, for me to get
my act together. Actually It's weird,
because I am a full time student at a
community college, and I am doing very
well in my classes, so it's not like i'm
in a downward spiral into oblivion, my
addiction is only a small fragment of my
life, albeit an important one.
As for telling my family, that is SO much
easier said than done. I would be putting
myself (and my family) in a horrible,
horrible position. I dunno, what do you
think? Also, Im curious, could you tell
me more about your meth use? (When did you
start, how is that kind of addiction
like, etc.)
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Rosie H
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Posted: 12-07-07 21:06pm
From what I have read from your posts you
do not sound ready to stop. But that is
ok. When you have truly had enough you
will stop. Just dont wait for your life
to be almost over either. When you are
really ready to quit completey then tell
you family. Its really up to you whether
or not you want them to know. But they
will be your biggest support.
Meth was awful, I have to go to dinner
right now so I will tell you more later.
Lets just say it ruined my entire life and
I have spent the last 3 years trying to
rebuild it.
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EverytimeIdie
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Opiates Posted: 12-08-07 06:00am
Them bones, hey whats up dude. Im from
cali to, la to be more specific. I was
just reading your thread and wanted to add
some stuff.
I understand 100% why its hard to tell
your family. Its a hard thing to confront
being addicted to opiates. I was addicted
to h for years and at first i thought like
you, its only a minor thing in life. But
trust me dude, if you dont kick it, no
matter what it will bring you down no
fail. You cannot win, unless you kick.
Also per your family, all i can say is,
honosty is the best policy and the truth
will set you free. You dont want to walk
around with all these lies theyll haunt
you. I hope you dont think im trying to
sound like your dad or anything, im just
really trying to help out.
Per you saying you cant picture life w/o
opiates, all i can say is that you wont
have a life if you continue on opiates.
Trust. There are no successfull, happy,
old, junkies. Never will be cause it will
literally kill you. Anyways sorry for
raining in on your thread like this, just
wanted to give some input. Be well and
talk soon.
Keep it real and be true,
ed~
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Them Bones
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Posted: 12-30-07 06:00am
Hey there EveryTimeIDie (cool name btw), I
am also from cali, I'm glad to have
someone young (No offense rosie) to talk
to. You make some pretty valid points, i
sort of disagree about the statement that
opiate addiction always destroys life. I
actually have a very productive life (as I
had previously hinted at). I go to school,
I try hard and get good grades, I have
friends and a decent job.
When people think of the term junkie, they
envision a loser without anything going
for him who is on the fast track to
self-destruction. What people do not think
about is the other side of the coin, the
junkie like me who has a meaningful life,
but is in the clutches of addiction.
As for the family thing, I must once again
say this: It is WAY easier said than done.
I love my family very much and by
revealing my dark secret, I would
jeopardize the relationship I have with
them.
THERE IS GOOD NEWS THOUGH!! In an act of
uncharacteristic resolution, I decided to
sever the connection between me and my
source of drugs. Before I did so though, I
amassed a gigantic stockpile of opiates to
last me about 4-5 months. Now that I have
no connection, I will have no choice but
to quit. Of course, I'm probably going to
suffer and hate myself for it, but I
really hope that will be the end of this
disease. What do you think? and how did
you finally quit H?
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dubgurl
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Posted: 01-20-08 21:30pm
Hello! I just want to tell you that I
understand how you feel about quiting ang
telling your family. Im 23 and was an Oxy
addict, that got too expensive so I
switched to dope. I was on it for a couple
years and then decided I was done and
wanted to get clean but like you didnt
want to go to rehab or detox cause my
family didnt know and I did not want them
to. Well I got on a methadone program and
I regret it. It stoped me from using dont
get me wrong but it was harder to get off
of them heroin/opiates. I was on that for
another few years and then got pregnant,
want to know how my family found out I was
on methadone and was an addict? After I
had my c-section the dr. gave me Nubain. I
went into severe withdrawl and
convuslsions with my mom and family at the
end of my bed wondering what the hell was
wrong w me. Well they found out and you
know what I wish I had just told them from
the beginning. They were a lot more
understanding then I ever would have
imagined! So you need help, get it. It is
very hard to do it alone. You can do it
and you should before you hit rock
bottom!! Best of luck!!