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Violence In the Name of Allah
Posted: 12-12-07 11:45am

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Dad Allegedly Kills Girl Over Head Scarf

By Jonathan Spicer,Reuters

TORONTO (Dec. 11) - A Canadian teenager who was said to have clashed with her father about whether she should wear a traditional Muslim head scarf died of injuries late on Monday, and her father told police he had killed her.

Aqsa Parvez, 16, was found without a pulse in her home in the Toronto suburb of Mississauga earlier on Monday. She was resuscitated by paramedics, treated at two hospitals, and later succumbed to her injuries, police said on Tuesday.

Her father, 57-year-old Muhammad Parvez, has been charged with homicide and was remanded back into custody after his first court appearance early on Tuesday.

"There was a 911 call placed by a man who indicated that he had just killed his daughter," Jodi Dawson, a constable with Peel Regional Police, told Reuters. "Everything else is evidentiary in nature and the investigation is in its preliminary stages at this point."

The victim's brother, Waqas Parvez, 26, was arrested and charged with obstructing police.

The story was on the front pages of Canadian newspapers on Tuesday. The newspapers quoted friends and schoolmates of the victim as saying she argued with her father over wearing a hijab, the traditional head scarf worn by Muslim females.

Photos of the teen retrieved from a social networking Web site show her in Western dress with her long dark hair loose.

"She was always scared of her dad, she was always scared of her brother," the Toronto Star quoted a classmate as saying.

Others were quoted as saying the girl wore traditional Muslim dress when leaving the house in the morning, but would change into other clothes in school washrooms.

Dawson said investigators will likely speak to the victim's schoolmates. The father will return for a bail hearing on Wednesday.


http://news.aol.com/story/_a/dad-a llegedly-kills-girl-over-head-scarf/200712 11165009990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

"Treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers."
From the last sermon of Prophet Mohammed

Here is an insane article written to defend Islam in regards to women. I post it in full because I have highlighted some sections I find particularily ticklish.

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Islam, Culture and Women
by Ruqaiyyah Waris Maqsood

How can anyone justify Islam's treatment of women, when it imprisons Afghans under blue shuttlecock burqas and makes Pakistani girls marry strangers against their will?

How can you respect a religion that forces women into polygamous marriages, mutilates their genitals, forbids them to drive cars and subjects them to the humiliation of "instant" divorce? In fact, none of these practices are Islamic at all.

Anyone wishing to understand Islam must first separate the religion from the cultural norms and style of a society. Female genital mutilation is still practised in certain pockets of Africa and Egypt, but viewed as an inconceivable horror by the vast majority of Muslims. Forced marriages may still take place in certain Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities, but would be anathema to Muslim women from other backgrounds.

Indeed, Islam insists on the free consent of both bride and groom, so such marriages could even be deemed illegal under religious law.

A woman forbidden from driving a car in Riyadh will cheerfully take the wheel when abroad, confident that her country's bizarre law has nothing to do with Islam. Afghan women educated before the Taliban rule know that banning girls from school is forbidden in Islam, which encourages all Muslims to seek knowledge from cradle to grave, from every source possible.

The Koran is addressed to all Muslims, and for the most part it does not differentiate between male and female. Man and woman, it says, "were created of a single soul," and are moral equals in the sight of God. Women have the right to divorce, to inherit property, to conduct business and to have access to knowledge.

Since women are under all the same obligations and rules of conduct as the men, differences emerge most strongly when it comes to pregnancy, child-bearing and rearing, menstruation and, to a certain extent, clothing.

Some of the commands are alien to Western tradition. Requirements of ritual purity may seem to restrict a woman's access to religious life, but are viewed as concessions. During menstruation or postpartum bleeding, she may not pray the ritual salah or touch the Koran and she does not have to fast; nor does she need to fast while pregnant or nursing. (Notice he doesn't say why...)

The veiling of Muslim women is a more complex issue. Certainly, the Koran requires them to behave and dress modestly - but these strictures apply equally to men. Only one verse refers to the veiling of women, stating that the Prophet's wives should be behind a hijab when his male guests converse with them.

Some modernists, however, claim that this does not apply to women in general, and that the language used does not carry the textual stipulation that makes a verse obligatory. In practice, most modern Muslim women appreciate attractive and graceful clothes, but avoid dressing provocatively. (Cute.)

What about polygamy, which the Koran endorses up to the limit of four wives per man? The Prophet, of course, lived at a time when continual warfare produced large numbers of widows, who were left with little or no provision for themselves and their children.

In these circumstances, polygamy was encouraged as an act of charity. Needless to say, the widows were not necessarily sexy young women, but usually mothers of up to six children, who came as part of the deal.

Polygamy is no longer common, for various good reasons. The Koran states that wives need to be treated fairly and equally - a difficult requirement even for a rich man. Moreover, if a husband wishes to take a second wife, he should not do so if the marriage will be to the detriment of the first. (Isn't that nice of him?)

Sexual intimacy outside marriage is forbidden in Islam, including sex before marriage, adultery or homosexual relationships (Those evil gays!). However, within marriage, sexual intimacy should be raised from the animal level to sadaqah (a form of worship) so that each considers the happiness and satisfaction of the other, rather than mere self-gratification.

Contrary to Christianity, Islam does not regard marriages as "made in heaven" or "till death do us part". They are contracts, with conditions.(so much for love?) If either side breaks the conditions, divorce is not only allowed, but usually expected. Nevertheless, a hadith makes it clear that: "Of all the things God has allowed, divorce is the most disliked."

A Muslim has a genuine reason for divorce only if a spouse's behaviour goes against the sunnah of Islam - in other words, if he or she has become cruel, vindictive, abusive, unfaithful, neglectful, selfish, sexually abusive, tyrannical, perverted - and so on. (I guess unfaithful doesn't mean anything if you have justified having multiple wives?)

In good Islamic practice, before divorce can be contemplated, all possible efforts should be made to solve a couple's problems. After an intention to divorce is announced, there is a three-month period during which more attempts are made at reconciliation.

If, by the end of each month, the couple have resumed sexual intimacy, the divorce should not proceed. The three-month rule ensures that a woman cannot remarry until three menstrual cycles have passed - so, if she happens to be pregnant, the child will be supported and paternity will not be in dispute. (And if she is pregnant and wants a divorce, tough tomatoes.)

When Muslims die, strict laws govern the shares of property and money they may leave to others; daughters usually inherit less than sons, but this is because the men in a family are supposed to provide for the entire household. (And why is that?)

Any money or property owned by women is theirs to keep, and they are not obliged to share it. Similarly, in marriage, a woman's salary is hers and cannot be appropriated by her husband unless she consents.

A good Muslim woman, for her part, should always be trustworthy and kind. She should strive to be cheerful and encouraging towards her husband and family, and keep their home free from anything harmful (haram covers all aspects of harm, including bad behaviour, abuse and forbidden foods).

Regardless of her skills or intelligence, she is expected to accept her man as the head of her household - she must, therefore, take care to marry a man she can respect, and whose wishes she can carry out with a clear conscience. However, when a man expects his wife to do anything contrary to the will of God - in other words, any nasty, selfish, dishonest or cruel action - she has the right to refuse him.

Her husband is not her master; a Muslim woman has only one Master, and that is God. If her husband does not represent God's will in the home (oh, criminy), the marriage contract is broken.

What should one make of the verse in the Koran that allows a man to punish his wife physically? There are important provisos: he may do so only if her ill-will is wrecking the marriage - but then only after he has exhausted all attempts at verbal communication and tried sleeping in a separate bed. (Did I just read justification for physically beating an adult woman??)

However, the Prophet never hit a woman, child or old person, and was emphatic that those who did could hardly regard themselves as the best of Muslims. Moreover, he also stated that a man should never hit "one of God's handmaidens". Nor, it must be said, should wives beat their husbands or become inveterate nags. (How...what...who...*sputters*...)

Finally, there is the issue of giving witness. Although the Koran says nothing explicit, other Islamic sources suggest that a woman's testimony in court is worth only half of that of a man. This ruling, however, should be applied only in circumstances where a woman is uneducated and has led a very restricted life: a woman equally qualified to a man will carry the same weight as a witness. (I just don't even know what to say about that.)

So, does Islam oppress women? (!!!!!!!!)

While the spirit of Islam is clearly patriarchal, it regards men and women as moral equals. Moreover, although a man is technically the head of the household, Islam encourages matriarchy in the home.

Women may not be equal in the manner defined by Western feminists, but their core differences from men are acknowledged, and they have rights of their own that do not apply to men.(Women are not equal in the manner defined by anyone, and this article did not mention one "right" of their own that does not apply to men, unless it's he right to be beaten?)


http://www.islamfor today.com/ruqaiyyah09.htm

Ridiculous.
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Posted: 12-12-07 13:44pm

It's sadly ironic how someone so dedicated to Allah can kill his own daughter because she doesn't adhere to the book that was supposedly written on his behalf by Mohammad.

I was reading the Toronto Star yesterday, and there was a huge section dedicated to women and hijabs. In western countries, there are big debates in muslim families. Some parents force their daughters to wear them, some parents don't care, and others force their daughters to NOT wear them to avoid any sort of racism or unfair classifications.

I agree, many aspects of Islam are ridiculous. I have faith, though, that it will change. There are many, many muslims who do not believe any of what you just copied, Birch (though I'm sure you're very aware of that).
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Posted: 12-12-07 13:46pm

Furthermore, though I'm not a woman, I can see how many women find the hijab liberating. Again, in the Toronto Star, there was a feature about a woman who wore a hijab (that covered her face as well) despite her family's objections (though they weren't objected enough to hurt/kill her). She said it's liberating to be noticed for her words and her actions rather than her appearance. I can appreciate that. As long as she does it based on her own convictions, not anyone else's.
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Posted: 12-12-07 14:26pm

I don't know what to think. Obviously to kill your own child over a headscarf is pretty awful and extreme. On the other hand, I think Islam is just another religion out there like Christianity, Judaism, etc that I do not fully understand. There seem to be strange contradictions in so many religions. Especialy when it involves the equality of women issue. I'm sorta a bugger for that. It's hard to make heads or tails of it all. this is what i think. Long ago, only men were educated to read and write. I believe history and religious doctrine were written primarily by men in a time were gender equality was so foreign, and thus we have these horrific instances of gender inequality. Why wouldn't a man slip in a little part here and there about his wife always obeying him and adoring him, etc. I wonder what would have happened if women were the ones who had sat down to write out the rules for morality.
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Posted: 12-13-07 01:55am

Just for a little taste of how women wrote history, you should check out the Gospel of Mary Magdalene. It's TOTALLY different than the four Gospels we find in the Bible. It also deals with how women were treated by patriarchal society at the time. How Jesus is depicted blows my mind. In a good way, actually.

Anyways, I'm running off topic.
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Posted: 12-13-07 15:29pm

Or Pistis Sophia- Sophia (wisdom) being the feminine counterpart of God. All these things so conveniently left out.
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Posted: 12-13-07 15:32pm

I am torn though... I don't think it's fair to point out the violence in the name of Allah and not give equal attention to the violence in the name of God. You can also find passages in the bible that inhibit menstruating women from participating in ritual among other things.

There are Islamic extremeists, there are Christian extremeists. Even if you were raised with a particular belief, the responsiblity falls to the individual to interpret that belief and use it responsibly. Most muslims are able to do this, most christians are able to do this.
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Posted: 12-13-07 17:53pm

The first article I posted is on a violent incident and may be an "extremist" view, however the second is not an extremist viewpoint but look ---> it justifies violence.

Plus, I didn't want our Catholic friends to think they were being exclusively picked on when there is plenty of violence going around for everyone.
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