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Those Peaceful Pro-lifers..
Posted: 12-15-07 08:34am
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Eyewitness Accounts Confirm Arson In
Abortion Clinic Fire
POSTED: 11:26 am MST December 7, 2007
UPDATED: 7:34 pm MST December 7, 2007
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -- An eyewitness tells
fire authorities about two hooded persons
who broke a window and threw a gas can
into an abortion clicnic that caught fire
Thursday night.
Local, state, and federal law enforcement
agencies are investigating a fire at the
office of Curtis Boyd, M.D., an abortion
provider in Albuquerque.
The fire occurred at Dr. Boyd's clinic at
801 Encino Place near the University of
New Mexico hospital around 11:30 p.m.
Thursday.
Albuquerque Fire Department said a witness
saw two persons in hooded jackets break a
window on the west side of the clinic. The
witness called out to them. The two hooded
persons then moved to another window on
the building's south side and threw a gas
can into the building and a small fire
started at that point. The two persons
drove away in a square black van.
After several hours of investigating, AFD
confirmed that the witness saw an arson in
progress. AFD is working closely with ATF
and FBI on this case.
According to a statement from the National
Abortion Federation, there have been seven
murders, 17 attempted murders, 41
bombings, 100 butyric acid attacks, 656
anthrax threats, and 175 arsons against
abortion providers since 1977, including
Thursday's Albuquerque incident.
The clinic incurred severe fire damage to
one room and smoke damage throughout, but
crews say the building is not a total
loss. No one was inside at the time. Staff
at the clinic is still answering the phone
and seeing patients at another undisclosed
location.
Boyd has been practicing in the Southwest
region for more than 22 years.
If you have any information on this case
please call Crime Stoppers at 843-STOP,
ATF at 346-6917 or the Arson Hotline at
872-1493.
Its so obvious in the arson and terrorist
tactics they use...
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Posted: 12-15-07 08:36am
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Unfortunately there are radical people in
every movement! Sad!
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Jincks013
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Posted: 12-15-07 08:38am
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For once I agree with you blonde.. this
type of behavior is very sad. very very
sad.
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diamond splinter
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Posted: 12-15-07 10:26am
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This behaviour is unexcusable but no where
in the eye witness accounts does it state
pro lifers were involved in this attack
also a real pro lifer would not try to
take a life of another person you usualy
find that clinic bombers are anti abortion
not pro life there is a world of
difference between the 2
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Posted: 12-15-07 10:37am
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Any Pro-life person I know would not take
another human beings life..
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Re: Those Peaceful Pro-lifers..
Posted: 12-15-07 10:42am
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| Jincks013
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...After
several hours of investigating, AFD
confirmed that the witness saw an arson in
progress. AFD is working closely
with ATF and FBI on this case...
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The situation isn't funny and I'm not
trying to make light of it, but this
sentence is hilarious.
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Posted: 12-15-07 10:48am
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sort of sounds like it was had up. Even
the phone numbers have no are codes one
could not call them if they wanted to. And
am I missing something? I don't see a
source where this came from..
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sistersister
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Posted: 12-15-07 10:52am
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Self proclaimed prolifers erick rudolph,
paul hill, michel griffith, shelly
shannon, robert fergunson, neil horsely,
wagner, and on and on and on all support
killing others in the name of "prolife".
Bombings, arsons, kidnapping, acid attacks
all support the risk that someone will be
killed and have been used repeatedlu by
the "prolife" movement.
Those who would not commit a violent act
themselves but stand back and do not
condem those in the movement that would or
advocate such actions vicariously support
the violence.
Those who claim to be non violent
themselves but post addresses and maps to
clinic workers homes on the web, are part
of the violence (they enable the crazys).
The "prolife" movement has a history of
violence. If you are a member or
supporter then you are a supporter of a
movement that has and does resort to
violence.
The violence is not just the result of the
extremists, it is the result of all those
who stand back in the movement and allow
it to go on.
I have always found it amazing how the
movement can claim someone like paul hiss
as their own until they are caught in a
violent act then the movement attempts to
put distance between them and the movement
by disclaiming them as "really' part of
the movement. That to me just shows how
contemptuious most "pro lifers" are
towards other people. It show how stupid
you think the rest of society is that they
would buy that denial.
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Posted: 12-15-07 10:56am
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Like I said..
Unfortunately there are radical people in
every movement! Sad!
But I still feel the majority of pro-life
people are not this way..
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Posted: 12-15-07 10:56am
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They're not the only ones to use that
tactic. It's fairly common everywhere you
look nowadays.
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sistersister
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Posted: 12-15-07 10:57am
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The area code for New Mexico is 505. Try
some New Mexico papers on the web for this
story. It is legit.
Of course there is that worn out tactic of
trying to blame the victim of the violence
for "faking" it. Is that what you are
trying to imply? Or are you simply saying
you think the whole thing never happened?
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diamond splinter
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Posted: 12-15-07 11:00am
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As you stated in your post they are self
proclaimed pro lifers real pro lifers
would never advocate killing anyone the
whole point of pro lifeisto stop premature
death be it the unborn thesoldier the
murderer or the elderly terminaly ill.
for someone to advocate the
bombing/kiling/kidnapping of another goes
against everything pro life stand for
please don't confuse pro life with anti
abortion terrorism.
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Posted: 12-15-07 11:03am
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| sistersister
wrote: | The area code for New Mexico
is 505. Try some New Mexico papers on the
web for this story. It is legit.
Of course there is that worn out tactic of
trying to blame the victim of the violence
for "faking" it. Is that what you are
trying to imply? Or are you simply saying
you think the whole thing never
happened? |
Neither.. I really didn't know.. So it was
not a worn out tactic is was a curious
question. ANd how would one know the area
code is 505 if they didn't post it?
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Jules
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Re: Those Peaceful Pro-lifers..
Posted: 12-15-07 11:07am
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| tigresacanela24
wrote: | | Jincks013
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...After
several hours of investigating, AFD
confirmed that the witness saw an arson in
progress. AFD is working closely
with ATF and FBI on this case...
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The situation isn't funny and I'm not
trying to make light of it, but this
sentence is
hilarious. |
It made me chuckle too... 
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Posted: 12-15-07 11:08am
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Welcome sistersister! Hope you stick
around and join our debate!
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Posted: 12-15-07 11:11am
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Posted: 12-15-07 11:15am
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According to a statement from the National
Abortion Federation, there have been seven
murders, 17 attempted murders, 41
bombings, 100 butyric acid attacks, 656
anthrax threats, and 175 arsons against
abortion providers since 1977, including
Thursday's Albuquerque incident.
now don't get me wrong and start yelling
at me. And any amount is bad, but I really
thought over the last 30 years these
numbers would have been higher..
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sistersister
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Posted: 12-15-07 13:22pm
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Area code are listed in phone books. The
event is in Albequerque, which is in New
Mexico. So you would look up that area
code.
In your post you stated "it sort of sounds
like it was had up" I figured that it was
a typo and you ment: it sort of sounds
like it was made up. That sounds like you
are trying to claim it is false.
If I misread you perhaps you could explain
you post more clearly.
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Posted: 12-15-07 13:42pm
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| sistersister
wrote: | Area code are listed in
phone books. The event is in Albequerque,
which is in New Mexico. So you would look
up that area code.
In your post you stated "it sort of sounds
like it was had up" I figured that it was
a typo and you ment: it sort of sounds
like it was made up. That sounds like you
are trying to claim it is false.
If I misread you perhaps you could explain
you post more
clearly. |
this stement below.. sounded made up..
That is what I was commenting on..
After several hours of investigating, AFD
confirmed that the witness saw an arson in
progress. AFD is working closely with ATF
and FBI on this case...
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