Eggs - An Observation

"I don't. I say an embryo/fetus can be aborted because it is living in and attached to the woman's body, using her bodily resources, greatly impacting her quality of life and potentially putting her life/health at risk. If she doesn't want it there, she can have it removed."

You are another person who characterizes a fetus as a virus. Were you considered a virus when you were unborn?

Everything in life is risk. Pregnancy has been a natural process for centuries. YOU have "potentially" more of a chance of bodily injury or death by driving an automobile then pregnancy among thousands of other things.

"I don't care if it's a child or not, if the woman wants it OUT of her body, then out it goes."

What if a woman wants to take crystal meth? Does she have a right to? It's HER BODY right?

"Those with physical and mental impairments are BORN, they are NOT living in anyone's body." However they require sub subsistence living so they ARE dependent on others to feed, shelter and protect them just like a mother does! So why not kill them right?

"if it can feel pain, then all that is is a call for it to be anesthetised(you spelled this wrong even with spell check!) before the procedure (first trimester fetuses cannot feel pain)."

Because a painless death is better than no death at all????

My analogy was primarily directed at those who think that as soon as an egg is fertilised it counts the same as a person. I was making the point that if no one chooses to incubate it, it's an omelette.

None of this matters. Women have been aborting unwanted pregnancies since the beginning of time, and they will continue to do so. Arguing over what to call the embryo is just a red herring, even though I understand why the pro-life side insists on forcing everyone to consider a fertilized egg as a "person". If laws and definitions are changed to include an egg which has been fertilized as a person, then the pro-lifers figure that abortion will have to be illegal, because abortion will be considered "homicide", since a "person" dies in an abortion.

What they fail to realize is that it does not matter legally what the egg is considered. What does matter is what the woman is considered. Because the woman is also a person, she cannot be forced to gestate and give birth against her will, because no born person today can use another born person's body and/or bodily resources without that person's informed consent.

Another point that I think most pro-lifers realize but do not care about is that legality of abortion has no effect on incidence of abortion. Countries with illegal abortion all over the world have rates of abortions equaling and in some cases surpassing rates of abortion in countries where it is legal.

If pro-lifers really wanted to reduce the abortion rate they would not be trying to make it illegal. The only reason to make abortion illegal is to punish women, by making abortion more difficult and more dangerous to attain.

If pro-lifers really wanted to reduce abortion, they would be working with pro-choicers to reduce the rates of unwanted pregnancy. Unwanted pregnancy is a major cause of abortion. Eliminating the cause will eliminate the need, and therefor eliminate the occurrence. Just making abortion illegal does nothing for either the cause of or need for abortion, and that is exactly why it would still occur.

" wonder, have you ever tried to see the viewpoint of an unborn baby? "

Just so you know there is no such thing as an "unborn" baby. Baby's by deffinition exist after birth - not before birth. The correct labeling is a embryo or fetus - and an embryo or fetus can not have a view point - as an embryo or fetus (at the point before viability where elective abortion is legal) does not possess the fully formed brain functioning that makes having a viewpoint physically possible. Your question is kind of silly itself.

Women have as much right to self defense as men. This right shouldn't be taken away simply because the threat comes from a potential human rather than a fully sentient and independent human. To make a clause that women don't have the right to defend themselves from damage from an assailant simply because the assailant lacks the ability to know it's harming her is barbaric. I suppose that those who believe fetuses deserve special rights also support the right of mentally disabled males to rape females at leisure, since they aren't legally capable of understanding that their use of a woman's body is harmful to her.