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Define 'Abortion' Posted: 12-23-07 06:16am
define the word 'abortion' in your own
words.
what does it mean to you? If you could
write a dictionary definition, what would
it say?
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Darkmoon
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Posted: 12-23-07 06:31am
To prematurely end or expel a process. To
abort a mission is to end progress before
its intended result. To abort a pregnancy
is to end the gestation before it's
natural end. The abortion of women's
rights would plunge us back into the dark
ages, the abortion of logic would allow
superstition to reign over reason, the
abortion of parental responsibility would
result in a society of unruly children and
later on, hopeless and useless adults (oh
wait...that's already happening).
The word carries meaning above and beyond
what goes on in a woman's body but people
are only concerned with it when it comes
to whether women can or cannot legally
make their own reproductive decisions.
Men of course can do whatever the hell
they want.
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Posted: 12-23-07 07:30am
Abortion is to end a pregnancy
prematurely.
Pro-abortion is to want to end all
pregnancies prematurely
Lets not play the 'you said so' game.
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sistersister
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Posted: 12-23-07 16:26pm
abortion is the ending of anything, as in
abort the mission.
abortion as in the termination of a
pregnancy. The expulsion of a zygote,
embryo or premature fetus or the
reabsorbtion of a zygote or embryo by the
womans body.
breaks down in several catagories
1. spontaneous abortion the termination
of a pregnancy bay causes other than
medical intervention (misscarriage)(many
of these occur in the first weeks and the
woman may not even be aware that she was
pregnant or they may happen at any time
during the pregnancy.
2. Theraputic abortion, an abortion done
to protect or save the life or health or
mental heath of the woman who is pregnant.
(most must come under state guidlines)
3. elective abortion, an abortion done at
the request of the woman (most of which
are done in the early first trimester also
regulated by state guidelines)
4. traumatic abortion. when an injury to
a pregnant woman (steering wheel, fall,
gunshot) results in a spontaneous
abortion.
If I were to define abortion
in the sole sense of pregnancies, I would
say: "The ending of a pregnancy by
removing an embryo or foetus from its
mother's body, resulting inevitably in its
death".
But what's the point in the thread? We
know what abortion means and we have
the dictionary if we require such a
definition.
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Jincks013
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Posted: 12-23-07 18:47pm
Social definition Krypos. Not that we
haven't enjoyed you and yoda playing
dictionary but I've proven social
definitions of words are equally valid in
another thread. Try to keep this one on
topic for a change m'kay?
we are defining what abortion means TO
EACH INDIVIDUAL . is that too big a word
for you?
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Posted: 12-23-07 19:40pm
Aside from the technical definitions
already provided, abortion means hope! A
key out of a trap. A parachute. A cure.
A provision for life.
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Posted: 12-23-07 20:19pm
Exactly, Jinks and Birch have it. We all
define these words ourselves. You can
spout dictionary definitions or you can
look at what these words MEAN to people.
Sometimes the definition and the meaning
are very different.
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Posted: 12-24-07 01:46am
To abort is to simply put an end to
something - it doesn't always refer to
pregnancy.
An abortion refers to removing a
zygote/embryo/fetus from a woman's body
for any number of reasons. An abortion can
also be equated with second chances,
'dodging a bullet', and proving that
biology does not equal destiny.
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Posted: 12-24-07 09:03am
Sorry to clarify- i meant abortion in
regards to pregnancy
Social definition Krypos.
Not that we haven't enjoyed you and yoda
playing dictionary but I've proven social
definitions of words are equally valid in
another thread. Try to keep this one on
topic for a change m'kay?
we are defining what abortion means TO
EACH INDIVIDUAL . is that too big a word
for you?
Calm down, you don't have to be so
aggressive, for Christ's sake. What
abortion means is defined in the
dictionary; its consequences are a
different matter altogether, and if this
is what is meant by this thread, then all
posts containing dictionary-esque
explanations are pointless.
Eiri
wrote:
Exactly, Jinks and Birch
have it. We all define these words
ourselves. You can spout dictionary
definitions or you can look at what these
words MEAN to people. Sometimes the
definition and the meaning are very
different.
Eiri, the meaning and the definition are
the same. We don't define them ourselves,
otherwise the dictionary wouldn't exist.
If we are talking about social
implications of abortion, then I would
agree with Birch, most likely. Abortion
can spell freedom, relief, a way out, but
equally upset, loneliness, and a wound to
the heart. It varies so much it's
irrational to generalise.
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sistersister
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Posted: 12-26-07 08:53am
From the feed back the clinic recieves it
defines relief, closure, a new chance, and
hope a hundred to one against upset,
loneliness and "a wound to the heart".
There is sadness that something went wrong
with the zef or the pregnancy, there is
sadness that a pregnancy resulted before
it was wanted. There is almost always
relief.
Sometimes there is anger. anger at the
circumstances, the timing, anger at the
pregnancy itself and anger at the god or
gods. Anger at people (strangers)
invading a personal family situation at
the gate. Anger that a much wanted
pregnancy resulted in medical
complications.
When my landlady helped me abort I saw her
as a saint or as a light in a world that
was red hot with my anger and my pain. I
was angry that I had been hjurt, that I
had been humiliated, that I had been
brought to the place where I knew he was
going to kill me and I just wanted him to
get it over with. Angry that I was made
to realise that my being was no more than
something to be used in the most depisable
ways worth no more to my atacker than a
piece of toilet paper.
My abortion ended a good deal of the
hopelessnes and helplessness I was swamped
in. It gave me back not only my life it
gave me back the ability to pull myself
together to get my existing children out
of the situation we were in and get them
back to the US and safety.
A big part of my job at the clinic is with
the patients and their families
listening to them talk. I know their
stories and how much they agonised over
their decision.
While no one celebrates having an
abortion, most of us are relieved and
grateful that we were able to have one
when we judged it to be what was best for
our personal and unique situations.
Every time I look at my grown daughters
and grand children I know for a hard
practical fact that they would not be here
if my landlady had not helped me.
My abortion ment that I and my existing
two children lived. It ment that I lived
to go on and give birth to my youngest
daughter. It ment that my children lived
to become adults and to give me my six
grand children.
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Re: Define 'abortion' Posted: 12-26-07 10:46am
beckster
wrote:
define the word 'abortion'
in your own words.
what does it mean to you? If you could
write a dictionary definition, what would
it say?
This question fascinates me. Why on earth
would you ask people to fantasize how they
would write a dictionary definition, when
online dictionaries are so common, easy to
use, and free?
Why ask amateurs to try to second guess
professionals?
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yodavater
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Posted: 12-26-07 10:49am
Jincks013
wrote:
Pro-abortion is to want to end all
pregnancies
prematurely.
Kinda like how "pro-gun" is to want
everyone to own a gun?
Or how "pro-death penalty" is to want all
prisoners to be executed?
Or how "pro-immigrant" is to want everyone
to be an immigrant?
Okay..... yeah..... I get it now!
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yodavater
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Posted: 12-26-07 10:52am
Jincks013
wrote:
Social definition Krypos.
That's a fascinating term..... where did
you get it?
I checked with the "One Look" site, and it
said "Sorry, no dictionaries indexed in
the selected category contain the phrase
social definition. "
So, what's the source of that term/phrase?
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yodavater
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Posted: 12-26-07 10:53am
Birch
wrote:
A cure.
.
What's the "disease"?
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yodavater
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Posted: 12-26-07 10:54am
Cambion
wrote:
proving that biology does
not equal
destiny.
All murders of born people "prove" that.
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yodavater
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Posted: 12-26-07 11:00am
Kypros
wrote:
We don't define them
ourselves, otherwise the dictionary
wouldn't exist.
.
Yeah, I get the feeling from reading this
thread that there are some here who are
radically "anti-dictionary" in the same
way that anarchists are "anti-government".
They may even feel the same way about
encyclopedias.
Sure, we can expound all day on our
"personal understanding" of any term,
phrase, or word..... and even discuss how
the majority here feels about them.
But that is totally insignificant to the
importance of using language in such a way
as to be in communication with society at
large. IOW, if we wish to make this forum
readable and understandable to anyone in
this country, or anyone in the whole world
who speaks English, the only way to do
that is to use our terms the way the
majority of our society understands
them.... not in our own "special way".
In other words, speak English... not a
private dialect.
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Birch
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Posted: 12-26-07 12:18pm
yodavater
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
A cure.
.
What's the
"disease"?
Society.
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yodavater
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Posted: 12-26-07 12:21pm
Birch
wrote:
yodavater
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
A cure.
.
What's the
"disease"?
Are those terms mutually
exclusive?
No, they are usually very closely
associated. That's why I asked what was
the disease that the "cure" was for.
