I don't know about anyone else but i
consider using contraceptives (if used
properly) as being responsible. Sure they
can fail but that doesn't mean you are
irresponsible. I for sure take comfort in
knowing that i can safely choose to abort
if i feel that it would be best for myself
and for that embryo in the end. So i
don't know why you go on about
contraceptives and "pulling out" as an
extra percaution, it is completely
irrelevant.
Good for you that you are prolife and feel
superior to everyone else and feel that
adoption is like handing off a piece of
cargo. You are also probably one of those
people who will eventually end up having 6
kids and on welfare because carrying that
fetus to term is definately more important
than being able to provide your children
with the financial and emotional means it
needs.
"I believe that once there is a heart beat
- there's an innocent life! And for that
innocent life to be tooken away by
irresponsible buffoons with no care in the
world is the most "heart-less" thing you
can do! "
Your play on words here is definately
effective. Good work. I believe life
starts before the heartbeat. Perhaps it
starts at conception. Big deal. I still
think a woman should have her choice to do
what she wants with that heartbeat, that
parasite even as Eiri describes it. I see
it as the same way. Perhaps you're the
buffoon for judging and insulting people.
I'm sure you're not perfect in any way
either.
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x0x011
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
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Posted: 01-01-08 23:37pm
Lol...starsexxxie is pregnant too? or did
i read things wrong
That makes things even funnier. I guess
getting knocked up was a pretty
responsible thing to do. But i guess she
feels like she is making a much more
responsible decision to raise that baby
probably without a marriage and without a
real career.
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young Girl
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 13932 Location: everythings better in, texas USA
Posted: 01-01-08 23:40pm
yes shes pregnant but in college
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x0x011
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
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Posted: 01-01-08 23:46pm
Good luck finishing that college
degree...
that's all i have to say.
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Birch
Supporter
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Posted: 01-01-08 23:46pm
*Valley Girl Voice* "Like, oh my Gawd, I
am like, soooo smart and can call people
names, and that like, totally makes me a
mature intelligent adult! I like, put in
my profile that I like, haaate drah-mah,
but then if people don't agree with me
I'll like, become this total bee-yotch
because they are soooo stupid! And duh,
when you debate, it's like, get over being
called names because that is like, what
intelligent, mature adults do! Gawd!!"
*Valley Girl Voice Over*
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RebelCats
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Nov 2007 Posts: 132
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Posted: 01-01-08 23:47pm
x0x011
wrote:
Lol...starsexxxie is
pregnant too? or did i read things wrong
That makes things even funnier. I guess
getting knocked up was a pretty
responsible thing to do. But i guess she
feels like she is making a much more
responsible decision to raise that baby
probably without a marriage and without a
real career.
After you wrote this I went and looked at
a few of her threads. And not that I want
to look immature but all I could think was
"Hello pot meet kettle" ( I know someone
knows what I mean by that). Anyways it
does not look like she has any room to
call someone irresponsible about sex after
what I read.
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RebelCats
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Nov 2007 Posts: 132
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Posted: 01-01-08 23:48pm
Birch
wrote:
*Valley Girl Voice* "Like,
oh my Gawd, I am like, soooo smart and can
call people names, and that like, totally
makes me a mature intelligent adult! I
like, put in my profile that I like,
haaate drah-mah, but then if people don't
agree with me I'll like, become this total
bee-yotch because they are soooo stupid!
And duh, when you debate, it's like, get
over being called names because that is
like, what intelligent, mature adults do!
Gawd!!" *Valley Girl Voice
Over*
To
funny.
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young Girl
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 13932 Location: everythings better in, texas USA
Posted: 01-01-08 23:52pm
Birch
wrote:
*Valley Girl Voice* "Like,
oh my Gawd, I am like, soooo smart and can
call people names, and that like, totally
makes me a mature intelligent adult! I
like, put in my profile that I like,
haaate drah-mah, but then if people don't
agree with me I'll like, become this total
bee-yotch because they are soooo stupid!
And duh, when you debate, it's like, get
over being called names because that is
like, what intelligent, mature adults do!
Gawd!!" *Valley Girl Voice
Over*
rofl
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Jincks013
Extremely EHEALTHy
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Posted: 01-02-08 00:11am
A little narcassistic starsexxie.
Here's the lowdown:
YOu do what YOU want with YOUR body.
I do what I want with MY body.
It seems only one of us is interested in
forcing others to our preferences and it
isn't me. I've read many of your poorly
put togather responses and so far I
haven't seen new idea one pop up though I
do wonder how you can make so many
grammatical and spelling errors in one run
togather sentence.
Newsflash for you:
Sex isn't just for procreation.
Responbility means making your CHOICE
about protection or not and making your
CHOICE when it fails if it does.
So far you are hitting below yoda in the
impress me catagory but right at the top
of nausiatingly boring.
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young Girl
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 13932 Location: everythings better in, texas USA
Posted: 01-02-08 00:19am
Jincks013
wrote:
A little narcassistic
starsexxie.
Here's the lowdown:
YOu do what YOU want with YOUR body.
I do what I want with MY body.
It seems only one of us is interested in
forcing others to our preferences and it
isn't me. I've read many of your poorly
put togather responses and so far I
haven't seen new idea one pop up though I
do wonder how you can make so many
grammatical and spelling errors in one run
togather sentence.
Newsflash for you:
Sex isn't just for procreation.
Responbility means making your CHOICE
about protection or not and making your
CHOICE when it fails if it does.
So far you are hitting below yoda in the
impress me catagory but right at the top
of nausiatingly
boring.
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Darkmoon
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Dec 2007 Posts: 380 Location: ,
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Posted: 01-02-08 00:36am
Okay everyone, you know you have to follow
tradition and throw some chairs at each
other now. Classy discussions like this
aren't complete with the chair throwing!
Responses - This Is Getting Boring! Posted: 01-02-08 00:43am
the_girlfriend
This has gotten way out of hand! This
debate has turned from "abortion" to one
on one. I am better then this. I have
gotten way to ahead of myself with all the
controversy. No need for this bickering
that we are doing. I am very opinionated
and that is something that will not
change! If I feel strongly about certain
things, then I will not hesitate to voice
them. That has already been done! This has
just become a revolving circle - a waist
of time and energy. Again, i have to add -
no need to pity my child. My child will be
the most loved and adored child ever.
RebelCats
I do not disagree with anything that you
had to say! I even stated, a few times,
that even though theres a lower % of an
unplanned pregnancy, there is still that
chance. And i believe, if you cannot take
responsibility for what comes from having
sex, abstinence is the best thing. Why is
that so frowned upon? I am merely saying,
if the consequences of having sex is too
much for someone to bare, sex should be
rethought!
x0x011
I am not irresponsible! This is my first
child(my first pregnancy) and i do not
plan on having any more children until I'm
actually settled down and completely
financially stable for another mouth to
feed! Yes, becoming pregnant wasn't the
most "responsible" act of mine, but the
fact that I'm actually taking
responsibility for my actions shows a huge
level of maturity!
This debate has gotten way out of hand! It
has turned from an "abortion" debate, to a
debate with allot of unnecessary
criticisms directed to certain people! I
feel strongly about certain things, and
you all feel strongly about certain
things! Simple as this - your views on
"abortion" isn't going to change the way i
feel, and my views on abortion isn't going
to change the way you feel! But you are
all free to express your opinions,
including myself.
Anything else? Feel free to post!
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x0x011
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
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Posted: 01-02-08 00:54am
Maturity is only shown if you are able to
raise that child without depending on your
parents, and having some sort of stability
to give that child a life it deserves. I
hope you are able to do so.
For those who are unable to do so, having
an abortion is a mature choice as well.
Question - You say you do not plan on
having any more kids until you are
financially stable enough to feed another
mouth...does that mean you are going to
practice abstinence for the next...uhh 5
years? I highly doubt that.
x0x011
I am glad you brought that up! Yes, i do
believe, after this baby is born, i am
going to practice abstinence. I can not
stress something, yet, not take my own
advice. Since i am so against abortions, i
would not want to take any chances in
conceiving another child when the timing
just isn't right. I just want to focus on
this baby right now. I want to give this
child that i am carrying the best life
he/she deserves! I want to be completely
stable before i decide to have any more
children.
I hope this answered your question. Any
others that you may have for me I would be
happy to answer them for you.
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Jules
Moderator
Joined: 19 Aug 2006 Posts: 3757 Location: Merrie Englande, UK
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Posted: 01-02-08 01:54am
Wow, thanks for the high school experience
girls but I'd rather this forum remained a
place of mature debate please.
StarSexxie's opinion may indeed be one
that the veteran pro-choicers of this
board have come across frequently and
therefore find rather tedious but I recall
the_girlfriend's opinions not being so
different in the beginning...and I don't
think her mind was changed because she was
abused and ridiculed, especially by
moderators
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Jude-Love
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jun 2007 Posts: 727 Location: Williamstown, Kentucky USA
Posted: 01-02-08 06:12am
StArSeXxXiE
wrote:
First off, someone should of
given you the "birds and the bees" lecture
before you started having sex. Having sex
may possaibly lead into an unnplaned
pregnancy! If your not "mature" enough to
hanle the responsabity of a baby, maybe
you should re-consider having sex untill
you are mature enough! Having sex is an
"adult decision". If you can not handle
the responsibility that comes with having
sex, re-thinking the idea of having sex
until you are mature enough is a good
idea!
"First off", I WAS given the 'birds and
bees' talk. LONG before I decided to have
sex. Guess what? I knew right off that
I'd get an abortion if I got pregnant. I
waited to have sex until I was nearly
eighteen years old and I used the proper
precautions to avoid pregnancy for years
before I got married. So you can just can
your cute little stereotype about dumb
little girls who don't know anything about
how pregnancy occurs. K?
Secondly, your idea of what "taking
responsibility" is doesn't apply to my
life or what my idea of it is at all. You
think abortion isn't an acceptable route.
Goodie for you. I guess it's a good thing
no one will ever make you have one, right?
Must be nice.
StArSeXxXiE
wrote:
To the ones that are
pregnant - just because you are young and
pregnant, shouldn't mean that the first
thing that runs through your mind is
abortion or an adoption! Why don't you
think about what options you have that
will allow you to keep your child in your
life? Theres plenty of options out there
for you!
Are you out of your mind?
1. There are not "plenty" of options out
there. I love how people say that, as if
there are just dozens of different routes
to take when you fall pregnant. That's
caca. There are three options.
2. ONE involves being a parent when you
are unprepared and you are just so gosh
darned bright that you're suggesting it to
young girls! You must be proud! Having a
child and raising it before you are ready
because YOU can't handle adoption makes
YOU a selfish person. So you can stop
putting yourself on a pedestal above the
girls here who chose abortion.
3. Just for the record...if you were
mature enough to raise a child, you
wouldn't get on here and use phrases like
"keep ur legs clozed", girly. Which, btw,
makes you sound like a piece of white
trash.
Thank you.
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young Girl
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 13932 Location: everythings better in, texas USA
Posted: 01-02-08 06:22am
Jude-Love
wrote:
StArSeXxXiE
wrote:
First off, someone should of
given you the "birds and the bees" lecture
before you started having sex. Having sex
may possaibly lead into an unnplaned
pregnancy! If your not "mature" enough to
hanle the responsabity of a baby, maybe
you should re-consider having sex untill
you are mature enough! Having sex is an
"adult decision". If you can not handle
the responsibility that comes with having
sex, re-thinking the idea of having sex
until you are mature enough is a good
idea!
"First off", I WAS given the 'birds and
bees' talk. LONG before I decided to have
sex. Guess what? I knew right off that
I'd get an abortion if I got pregnant. I
waited to have sex until I was nearly
eighteen years old and I used the proper
precautions to avoid pregnancy for years
before I got married. So you can just can
your cute little stereotype about dumb
little girls who don't know anything about
how pregnancy occurs. K?
Secondly, your idea of what "taking
responsibility" is doesn't apply to my
life or what my idea of it is at all. You
think abortion isn't an acceptable route.
Goodie for you. I guess it's a good thing
no one will ever make you have one, right?
Must be nice.
StArSeXxXiE
wrote:
To the ones that are
pregnant - just because you are young and
pregnant, shouldn't mean that the first
thing that runs through your mind is
abortion or an adoption! Why don't you
think about what options you have that
will allow you to keep your child in your
life? Theres plenty of options out there
for you!
Are you out of your mind?
1. There are not "plenty" of options out
there. I love how people say that, as if
there are just dozens of different routes
to take when you fall pregnant. That's
caca. There are three options.
2. ONE involves being a parent when you
are unprepared and you are just so gosh
darned bright that you're suggesting it to
young girls! You must be proud! Having a
child and raising it before you are ready
because YOU can't handle adoption makes
YOU a selfish person. So you can stop
putting yourself on a pedestal above the
girls here who chose abortion.
3. Just for the record...if you were
mature enough to raise a child, you
wouldn't get on here and use phrases like
"keep ur legs clozed", girly. Which, btw,
makes you sound like a piece of white
trash.
Thank you.
well said jude
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sillyakchick
Supporter
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Posted: 01-02-08 08:16am
Let's stop the banter before the post gets
locked.
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stefanialynn
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Horsham , PA US
Posted: 01-02-08 09:35am
so as i said before i have had an abortion
and you can regret or you can learn from
it and move on. I was just like you before
i found out i was pregnant you have no
clue untill your actually i the situation
and you see how the people around and
closest to you react.
When i was at planned parenthood waiting
to be called in one of the nurses and i
were talking she told me this... At the PP
near me there are protesters, she said
that one of the ladies who are continually
out there picketing Anti-Abortion came in
to get an abortion and did. Then went out
the next day and continued protesting.
Ironic isnt it? I honestly believe you
dont know until your physically the one
pregnant and having to make the
decision...
off topic but she also told me the near by
catholic highschool (that my boyfriend
attended and confirmed this to be true)
the religion teachers will hand out extra
credit to the students who stand out and
picket. She told me also that the adults
the picket sometime bring thier toddlers
to stand out there with a sign.. i thought
i would share because i was apolled when
she told me this. It just amazes me....
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Becky
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 6224 Location: London, England
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Posted: 01-02-08 12:42pm
This is so pathetic!
_StArSeXxXiE_ (what kind of a name is
that lol) you need to stop insulting
people to try and get your point across. a
'mature 18 yr old' would not need to stoop
to such levels. Sure, you are happy with
your pregnancy and don't believe in
abortion and blah blah blah but like you
said EVERYONE is entitled to their
opinions.
You have your opinion and we'll have ours.
if I want to 'homicide my poor unborn
baby' tomorrow then I will go ahead and do
it- and the funny thing is neither you or
any other pro-lifer will be able to stop
me!