mental illness and insanity ? Posted: 01-08-08 15:17pm
Where do you drawl the line between having
a problems and being truly insane? Is
"insanity" an old term docters dont even
use anymore, or is it liek mentle illness
only worse? What's the rules on
diagnoseing someone with mentle problems?
IS bipolar the same as insanity? What do
you think?
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Posted: 01-08-08 15:49pm
Let me put it this way: Not every mental
illness is indicative of insanity, but all
insanity is indicative of mental illness.
Lots of people have mental illnesses, but
they never set foot in a nut house -
remember, things like depression, anxiety,
autism, and phobias are forms of mental
illness, but having them does not mean the
patient is crazy.
I think a person becomes insane when they
become a danger to others or they are
beyond rehabilitation; sociopaths, I feel,
are insane, because they fit perfectly
into both of the aforementioned
categories. Sociopaths can kill people and
feel no remorse, and they absolutely
cannot be 'healed' because their ability
to manipulate and twist things is beyond
what any medicine or therapy could
reverse.
I wouldn't say bipolar disorder qualifies
a person as being insane because BPD is
more of the person being a danger to
themselves than to others...and frankly, I
don't care if a person wants to shoot up,
never sleep and then end the day with
killing themselves.
Some people may have numerous mental
illnesses, and the combination of those
conditions may turn them into someone who
is dangerous all-around or who will never
be able to function outside of a mental
hospital. I would also consider that to be
insanity as well.
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Posted: 01-08-08 16:23pm
"Insanity" is a symptom of a mental
illness.
The DSM IV TR, which are the guidelines
for diagnosing mental illnesses, does not
use the term "insanity" but it clearly
defines what "insanity" is- and there are
many different types of "insanity".
Therefore, bipolar individuals are not
"insane" - they have bipolar disorder.
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Posted: 01-09-08 15:25pm
"Insanity" is not a medical term, it's a
legal one. Insanity means nothing to a
doctor.
Legal insanity is when a person doesn't
know what they are doing so they can't be
held legally responsible for their
actions, and very few individuals with
mental illnesses are considered legally
insane.
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Posted: 02-17-08 19:33pm
I think that today we completely ignore
what is truly insane, inequality,
injustice, cruelty, pride, vanity, money,
war, unknowing. I don't think somebody so
called "acting weird" is insane(especially
when you don't know why they act the way
that they do)(like somebody talking to
themselves), coming from the majority of
people the word insane is meaningless and
their definition of it should be ignored.
I think that everybody is a little more
insane than they would like to admit and
we would all be surprised to learn just
how insane everything is.
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Posted: 02-17-08 22:54pm
I've been doing a lot of reading about
people who hear voices recently. They
aren't mentally ill at all, and there are
a lot of them, up to 15% of all people
hear voices at some point. Here is a neat
theory about it:
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Posted: 02-18-08 18:48pm
futureshock, that was very interesting.
thanks.
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Posted: 02-19-08 00:25am
futureshock
wrote:
I've been doing a lot of
reading about people who hear voices
recently. They aren't mentally ill at
all, and there are a lot of them, up to
15% of all people hear voices at some
point.
what if the voices are telling them to do
bad things? you know, my dog told me to
kill jodie
foster......or........whatever.....
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Posted: 02-19-08 10:05am
killbill
wrote:
futureshock
wrote:
I've been doing a lot of
reading about people who hear voices
recently. They aren't mentally ill at
all, and there are a lot of them, up to
15% of all people hear voices at some
point.
what if the voices are telling them to do
bad things? you know, my dog told me to
kill jodie
foster......or........whatever.....
What about it? I guess I don't understand
your question. I'm not saying that there
are no mental illnesses in which people
hear voices, if that's where you're going
with this question.
There is an entire scientific theory that
postulates that everyone heard voices a
few thousand years ago, and people that
hear voices today are vestiges from that
time. It's fascinating. See my link in a
previous post to read more.
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Posted: 02-19-08 10:06am
homerx
wrote:
futureshock, that was very
interesting.
thanks.
You are very welcome.
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Posted: 02-19-08 11:20am
killbill
wrote:
futureshock
wrote:
I've been doing a lot of
reading about people who hear voices
recently. They aren't mentally ill at
all, and there are a lot of them, up to
15% of all people hear voices at some
point.
what if the voices are telling them to do
bad things? you know, my dog told me to
kill jodie
foster......or........whatever.....
killbill, like the night stalker who had
the barking dog telling him to kill, or
the Jodie Foster case,or the guy that
killed John Lennon,good examples of
someone who if mentally ill and I think
that is a completely different scenario.
People who hear voices telling them to
kill are mentally ill and schizophrenic I
would think.
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Posted: 02-28-08 15:49pm
Well I'm a bit of a skeptic I guess. I
didn't buy that article at all.
