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Autism And Vaccines Posted: 01-08-08 18:46pm


Did you guys read of the findings of the study that said that the vaccines were not the cause of autism because when they took the mercury out of it autism continued to rise? what do you think of that--or did i get my story wrong. i could have misread the article(it was 3am and i was working so its possible) please fill me in on what you know about this

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Posted: 01-08-08 20:47pm


Autism has never been scientifically charged with causing autism. I haven't read anything in depth about the vaccines, just know that there are ones that must be taken to prevent death or severe retardation. I have all my children vaccinated because I do believe in what they represent. I do not believe in government conspiracy theories either.....these sicknesses are only continued because of idiots who think they know better and do not vaccinate. I am only speaking of those vaccines that are necessary and which prevent illnesses that cannot be otherwise prevented. I will not have my children vaccinated with the HPV vaccine....they are not going to be sexually active until they are married, so why expose them to the risks associated with the vaccine? I will also not have them vaccinated for the flu....it only prevents one strand of a viral infection, and does not prevent bacterial infections and other viruses. Besides, most people who get the flu aren't going to be retarded or die from it. It's just something that people need to have as a scapegoat for their drama. I would say there are tons of reasons why there are things like autism, like marrying a second cousin or closer (incest), genetics, drug and alcohol abuse, smoking...... The only vaccine left with questionable substances is the flu vaccine (which I think is pointless, but anyways) but you can request for it without those substances.

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Posted: 01-08-08 22:07pm


i agree about the flu vaccine.

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Posted: 01-21-08 19:36pm

mominashoe wrote:

Autism has never been scientifically charged with causing autism. I haven't read anything in depth about the vaccines, just know that there are ones that must be taken to prevent death or severe retardation.

I have all my children vaccinated because I do believe in what they represent. I do not believe in government conspiracy theories either.....these sicknesses are only continued because of idiots who think they know better and do not vaccinate. I am only speaking of those vaccines that are necessary and which prevent illnesses that cannot be otherwise prevented. I will not have my children vaccinated with the HPV vaccine....they are not going to be sexually active until they are married, so why expose them to the risks associated with the vaccine? I will also not have them vaccinated for the flu....it only prevents one strand of a viral infection, and does not prevent bacterial infections and other viruses. Besides, most people who get the flu aren't going to be retarded or die from it.

It's just something that people need to have as a scapegoat for their drama. I would say there are tons of reasons why there are things like autism, like marrying a second cousin or closer (incest), genetics, drug and alcohol abuse, smoking......

The only vaccine left with questionable substances is the flu vaccine (which I think is pointless, but anyways) but you can request for it without those substances.

I agree with some of what you said, however, the other possible reasons of autism that you mentioned are really not proven either. In fact, a great deal of individuals who are autistic have parents that have a higher than average IQ and have not done what you have mentioned. With some individuals, there is a genetic factor.

I do believe that there are many possible causes of autism. What do you mean "things like autism." Autism is not a "thing." Do you mean disorders? A disorder is NOT caused by what you have mentioned.

I have a child with Autism and I am a school psychologist and work a lot with individuals who have autism. It's not medically correct to lump autism in the category of "possible reasons being incest, smoking or drinking" That has NEVER even remotely been proven!

You have a lot of experience being a parent and have good advice but this is one area that perhaps you shouldn't have a word in until you read more about Autism.

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Posted: 01-22-08 12:22pm


When you compare the Autism rates in countries that don't use our vaccines to us it is clear that vaccines are the cause of the autism epidemic. Believe reality not cable news that accepts billion form the drug companies.

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Posted: 01-22-08 19:32pm

Balldez wrote:

When you compare the Autism rates in countries that don't use our vaccines to us it is clear that vaccines are the cause of the autism epidemic.

Believe reality not cable news that accepts billion form the drug companies.

correlation does not equate causation.

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Posted: 01-22-08 21:51pm


Maybe immunizations are the cause, maybe they are not. It isn't going to stop me from protecting my baby from Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Polio, and all of the other terrible illnesses that he could die from or end up physically disabled from if he got it. My father had polio when he was a child and he has suffered his entire life because of it. If I can prevent my son a lifetime of suffering I'll do it. I have given this subject a lot of thought and I've done my fair share of research. Having a child that has Autism has it's challenges I'm sure of that, but having a child die when I know I could have prevented it is more than I could live with. If you compare other countries that do not use our immunizations I'm sure you will find that many of them do not immunize their kids at all.

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Posted: 02-08-08 10:38am


My bro is on the autism spectrum. There are three kids, he is the only one with autism or any other diagnoses for that matter. Neither of my parents or any of my relatives have it either. No drug abuse, no smoking, no drinking (seriously), no incest. Sometimes, these things just happen. Hopefully, though, someday soon we'll find a cause. But I think psychology is far too new of a science to know yet.

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Wow, did you see in the news about the family who has six children, all of them with austism? Now that has to be very hard to deal with. The odds of that happening are really really rare they said! I also saw on the news that there is this chemical they've added to baby lotions shampoos and powders that may cause reproductive issues in the babies and children later on in life. I was so disturbed by this I went and read all the labels in my bathroom. How can they do stuff like that? And it's only something they use to stabilize the perfumes or something. There is no definite evidence, but I say why even chance it? It's not even necessary to the products? If they are just finding out things like this now in regard to a simple chemical used in baby products, I'm sure there is a definite culprit out there for autism that we are missing.

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Posted: 02-08-08 11:24am


If I had six children and they all had autism, I'd certainly start checking labels!! I have slowly been switching to natural cleaning products and such. I don't have children or anything, but when I do, I want it to be a safe environment.

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Posted: 03-26-08 12:18pm


The so called link between the termosol vaccines and autism was that it contained mercury, which would stay in the brain and cause a child to become autistic. However, the type of mercury found in the vaccines wasn't elemental mercury, but actually a compound with mercury in it, called ethylmercury. Ethylmercury, unlike elemental mercury and methylmercury doesn't bio-accumulate in the body, it breaks down and is excreted. In addition, Balldez, when you look at developed countries that banned these vaccines years ago, like Great Britain and Japan, they have autism rates that are actually higher then those found in America.

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Posted: 03-26-08 17:04pm


You also have to look at the fact that most kids who get vaccines don't get autism. I mean, autism is still pretty rare, and vaccination surely is not. And in most families of kids who have autism, it's only one family member. If there was an environmental factor, every child exposed to that factor would develop it. I'm not saying it doesn't have anything to do with the environment, certainly there might be triggers, but that can't be all of it, or probably even the majority.

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Posted: 03-26-08 18:43pm


I was reading more about it because even though I don't think the vaccines cause autism, I had a sort of an idea about it........ the vaccines associated with autism was the MMR vaccine. Maybe it's because of the variation of the sickness that they inject. It's a dead form of the virus, but it's still the virus. Those people who got the measles mumps or rubella and died......maybe, just what if, they hadn't died, do you think that maybe they would have some sort of autism from that? Like it's one of the symptoms of measles mumps or rubella. And that is the only part of it that comes out in the vaccine. I don't know if I'm stating my thought clearly enough or not....but it was just my thought. I'm still getting my kids vaccinated, even though it still scared the heck out of me, autism or no autism.

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Posted: 03-28-08 11:48am

mominashoe wrote:

Wow, did you see in the news about the family who has six children, all of them with austism? Now that has to be very hard to deal with. The odds of that happening are really really rare they said!

I also saw on the news that there is this chemical they've added to baby lotions shampoos and powders that may cause reproductive issues in the babies and children later on in life. I was so disturbed by this I went and read all the labels in my bathroom. How can they do stuff like that? And it's only something they use to stabilize the perfumes or something. There is no definite evidence, but I say why even chance it? It's not even necessary to the products?

If they are just finding out things like this now in regard to a simple chemical used in baby products, I'm sure there is a definite culprit out there for autism that we are missing.

good point!!

I do believe there is a missing culprit.

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Posted: 03-28-08 20:24pm


Just an FYI - mercury in any form is a known neurotoxin. The blood brain barrier is not formed in children. Nobody really knows when this chemical barrier in the brain is fully formed but it is not present in babies. There are indications that the bbb may not be fully developed until teen years. This being said, some children may be sensitive to thimerisol in vaccines or perhaps to the vaccine itself. More studies need to be done. Autism is not the result of incest, drug use or alcoholism.