so, I looked through that "Symptoms of
Bipolar" topic here, and got the following
results:
"What Are the Symptoms of Bipolar
Disorder?
Bipolar disorder causes dramatic mood
swings from overly high and/or irritable
to sad and hopeless, and then back again,
often with periods of normal mood in
between. Severe changes in energy and
behavior go along with these changes in
mood. The periods of highs and lows are
called episodes of mania and depression.
Signs and symptoms of mania (or a manic
episode) include:
* Increased energy, activity, and
restlessness
* Excessively high, overly good, euphoric
mood
* Extreme irritability
* Racing thoughts and talking very fast,
jumping from one idea to another
* Distractibility, can't concentrate well
* Little sleep needed
* Unrealistic beliefs in ones abilities
and powers
* Poor judgment
* Spending sprees
* A lasting period of behavior that is
different from usual
* Increased sexual drive
* Abuse of drugs, particularly cocaine,
alcohol, and sleeping medications
* Provocative, intrusive, or aggressive
behavior
* Denial that anything is wrong
-increased energy, activity, and
restlessness
-excessively high, overly good mood
(atleast she used to. I havn't seen that
side of her since we broke up, though)
-distractibility/can't concentrate well.
-little sleep neeeded
-unrealistic beliefs in ones abilities and
powers
-POOR JUDGEMENT
-increased sex drive
-provocative, intrusive, or AGGRESIVE
BEHAVIOR(!)
-DENIAL THAT ANYTHING IS WRONG........ or
that it's her fault at all, is how she
sees it. It's completely my fault, and I
am nothing but an ignorant problem who
does nothing but make her life terrible.
It's scaring me to say that, but I think
that that is about how she sees me at the
present time. She dismisses my
explanations for why I did something that
made her flip out at me as "petty,
childish and inconsiderate".
she's mad that I told one of our mutual
friends the details about our breakup
before she told anybody. Apparently she
hasn't even told most of her friends we've
broken up, and it's been a good few weeks
now since we did. She says "he's MY
friend!" and so forth and "where do you
get off talking to MY friends about that"
and such, even though it wasn't a plural
"friends", it was just the one...
We broke up, after dating for 11 months,
basically because I couldn't deal with her
problems efficiently, and neither of us
were happy. Usually, I'm great at figuring
things like this out, and I'm probably the
most stable person there is, I don't
fluctuate moods at all. I have them, of
course. I'm a very, very, very sensitive
person. But ever since she was diagnosed
with Bipolar, things havn't been the
same.
I don't know how to talk to her without
making her freak out at me. Currently,
after we've broken up (on our 11 month
anniversary, too (Yes, in highschool you
celebrate "months" )! On one hand, she
forgot it was our anniversary when she
broke up with me, but on the other, she
forgot our anniversary in the first place,
so I don't know how to feel about that
one! ),
she won't even talk to me.
Since we've broken up, she's gotten mad at
me! I never would have thought that to
happen, especially since when we actually
broke up she was apologising and crying
and saying "thank you" for being so
supportive and everything. But when I went
to her house to drop off clothes and
things from my house that she'd left, she
freaked out at me because I didn't call
ahead. She also, like I said above, got
VERY mad, to the point where she won't
talk to me now, when I was talking to our
mutual gay friend who she seems to think I
hardly know about this all.
February 1st would have been our one year
anniversary. I want to get her back on
that day, if I can settle her down and
gain her trust again before then, that is.
I think it would be very symbolic and
beautiful to do it then. I have a whole
idea going in my head about how I'm going
to recreate exactly what it was like the
day I first asked her "if we were dating"
(long story! ),
so hopefully that might get through to her
that I really care and such.
But... How do I do it?
How do I do all of this? What do I do to
get her to A) talk to me again, first of
all! B) trust me again, and how do I go
about talking to her in the future? I'm a
VERY painfully honest person, so I've
always struggled with trying to "talk" to
people differently than how I feel I
should, you know? What I feel I should
hasn't worked the last few months, and
that is why we broke up! I am willing to
do this to get her back.
If I can't date her, I atleast want to be
her friend again. She has lots of other
problems from her childhood as well, but
I've always been able to handle those.
This Bipolarness is what has ripped us
apart. She gets angry at EVERYTHING! I
don't know how to handle this all! I want
to be there for her, but she still goes
crazy. She claims she "isn't mad" or
"wasn't mad" or something similar, but
that's totally untrue. Or if it is, I
would be scared for my life to see her
"mad"!
She was going to the hospital a while ago
and I promised I'd go and wait in the
lobby for her (it was a loonnnng session,
too!). Sadly, I got very ill around that
time. I was spitting out blood and yellow
stuff (which I found out means
"infection")m and my mother forbid me from
going to the hospital that day. I phoned
her mother, who works at a clinic, and she
also told me that I really shouldn't go.
Because of all the people with the
weakened imune systems and such. Needless
to say, she got mad at me over this and
started calling me unreliable and all
this, even though I was still going to go,
against my own mother's wishes, until her
mum told me to stay home. I tried, and I
always try for her, but nothing is ever
good enough. What do I do?
I know that all of this is a lot to deal
with, and that I have probably dozens of
questions thrown around in this long post,
but I really need help. I rarely do need
advice, I'm usually the one to give it,
actually, but I am not scared to ask when
I need help.
Peace and Love,
-Peter.
And thank you all for your support (once I
get some, that is )! I honestly can
not do this without you. Thank you all.
EDIT: Oh yeah, I just thought of
something, too. Perhaps a smart way of
answering me would be to quote directly
what I said, so that I know exactly to
which part of my post you are referring
to. Thanks!
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puzzld
Supporter
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 Location: gulf coast =), USA
Posted: 01-10-08 16:26pm
1. DENIAL THAT ANYTHING IS WRONG
this is the first battle, the front line,
and one that you can't win without her. i
was in denial until about 4 months ago.
i'm 33 and have been told my entire adult
life that i am BP. it got to the point
where i could not fake it anymore. i
slipped into a terrible state where i had
to make a choice to live or die. i chose
to live with the help of medicine, which i
must take if i want to have a life.
on the flip side, my 40 year old brother
is BP and won't admit or take meds. he
lives with my dad and invents all day and
night. he's a genius. and he's been doing
this since he was in grammar school.
i'm not saying that these are the only
outcomes to her experience.
2. She dismisses my explanations for why I
did something that made her flip out at me
as "petty, childish and inconsiderate".
people suffering from bp illness who are
not medicated are extremely taxed in every
way possible. it effects every part of
your life. it's obvious that you want to
take care of her and help her... this is
good. but, if she sees no problem with
herself then in her mind, quite possibly,
the problem is you and/or everyone else
breathing. this is normal bp behavior.
because she is sick and won't realize it
doesn't mean that she's not suffering
greatly.
apply my explanations to a good part of
your post.
it's not personal. she just isn't dealing
with it correctly. i know you want to get
back with her and that is wonderful to
hear because not many people can handle
living with someone suffering from bp. so,
often they feel like a burden and that
nobody could possibly love them. maybe she
feels this way, dunno. i did for a while.
just don't push her on the feb 1st thing,
or yourself.
i'm only responding to her denial because
healing begins with recognition of the
illness. then seeking treatment and
sticking with it. remember, only she can
fix this. my husband was/is very
supportive of me and my mood disorder. he
listens and doesn't try to fix me. the
reason we don't like to hear our loved
one's try to fix us is because it
reinforces, in our minds, that our loved
one's are not happy with us as we are.
illness and all.
i hope she gets help. and i'm so sorry for
your heartache.
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Peter91
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 5
Posted: 01-10-08 17:07pm
Thank you so much for your reply! It
actually feels like it's helping me
already!
She WAS on medication, and then when they
found out about the bp, she was put on
medication after medication trying to find
the right combination, and that took a
toll on her. It really messed with her,
and that explained some of the behavior a
few months ago, I think.
She keeps saying "you blew it" and stuff
now, though (aka the two or three times I
talked to her today around school at
times), and so I can't exactly approach
her that easily right now. I kept trying
to talk to her, and I even explained about
why I was talking to her friend about us
and everything, but she dismissed
everything I said and wouldn't even think
about accepting that I wasn't just being
stupid or something.
I'm the sort of guy that does things for a
reason. All important things, and most
non-important things all have their place
in where I deal with them. I do a lot of
these things spontaneously, but if I don't
like something about something than I will
not do it. I really am calm all the time,
and never actually get mad or anything. I
never fake things, either, so I suppose
that just shows that I am not just lieing
to myself and telling people on the
outside that I'm fine when I'm not, you
know? Several people asked me how I was
doing today and I replied, "Shitty."
So basically what I'm trying to say is
that I'm always honest and try to speak my
mind when I can. And I have a pretty long
history of doing this, now, so for her to
think that A) I was INTENTIONALLY trying
to be mean to her, or B) I was mad and
trying to get revenge by posting about us
in a public place like Facebook, it's
silly.
What I really wish she could acknowledge
is that I never, EVER have ever even come
close to wanting to intentionally hurt
her. Even when we were in her car and she
flipped out, did a Dukes Of Hazzard-style
180 U-turn in the middle of the road and
started speeding the other way. I may have
felt a little in danger, but I just tried
to settle her down.
Also, whenever she was mad or depressed at
my house I would never let her leave (and
drive home) until she had settled down.
She has thought about suicide before and
cut her wrists with little scissors
before, so I never wanted her to be mad or
sad enough to actually go through with
crashing her car and trying to kill
herself, like she had said many times
during a low spot.
So, going back to before I started talking
more about us, how do I get her to
talk/like me again? I mean, the "you blew
it"'s are pretty ugly, you know? She is
VERY serious this time. She told me to get
out of her life and that I was "snipped'
and that I lost the chance to be her
friend again (she has no intentions of
getting back together romantically, but
I'm hoping that I will be able to get her
back. If not, then I will still want to be
her friend, which is fine with me, too.
I'd RATHER be dating her, but I care
enough for her that just being friends
would be worth all this, too. I just hope
that I can figure something out...)
Peace and Love,
-Peter
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Peter91
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 5
Posted: 01-10-08 21:08pm
What if I contacted her parents (probably
her mother) and talked to them to see what
they think?
They DID always like me, but I havn't
talked to them since the night I dropped
her things off at her house. They said
that they miss me and even said "maybe
she'll come to her senses" and thanked me
for putting up with her.
I am still hesitent to phone her mum to
talk. What if she now thinks I've
overstayed my welcome or she is just fed
up with how my ex girlfriend thinks of me
and all that...? She obviously loves her
daughter wayyyyy more than me, that goes
without saying, so what if she is on her
side now? What if she doesn't want to talk
to me? I don't want to phone her mum, have
her find out, and then FLIP out at me for
phoning her parents, you know? I can see
it happening now...
Very risky, and I'm not even sure what I'd
want to talk to her mum about just yet!
The last thing I want to do is awkward her
mum out by phoning and asking her about
her daughter, you know?
That night when I dropped her stuff off, I
asked how she was doing and her mum said
"Oh, she's doing just fine", in a sort of
"she doesn't need you anymore" sort of
tone. That's why I feel so hesitant, I
think!
Peace and Love and probably lots more
questions to come!
-Peter
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CarolDiane
Moderator
Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 2381 Location: ,
Thanks: 108
Thanked:156
Posted: 01-11-08 07:16am
Understanding, support and TLC. And space
when she needs it.
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Peter91
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 5
Posted: 01-11-08 20:53pm
puzzld
wrote:
it's not personal. she just isn't dealing
with it correctly. i know you want to get
back with her and that is wonderful to
hear because not many people can handle
living with someone suffering from bp. so,
often they feel like a burden and that
nobody could possibly love them. maybe she
feels this way, dunno. i did for a while.
just don't push her on the feb 1st thing,
or yourself.
i'm only responding to her denial because
healing begins with recognition of the
illness. then seeking treatment and
sticking with it. remember, only she can
fix this. my husband was/is very
supportive of me and my mood disorder. he
listens and doesn't try to fix me. the
reason we don't like to hear our loved
one's try to fix us is because it
reinforces, in our minds, that our loved
one's are not happy with us as we are.
illness and all.
i hope she gets help. and i'm so sorry for
your
heartache.
i hope she gets help. and i'm so sorry for
your heartache.[/quote]
You say "she's just isn't dealing with it
correctly".
I'd like to know HOW to deal with it
correctly, you know? What can I do te help
her? And what can she do to help herself?
And it sure feels personal to me...
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Peter91
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 5
Posted: 01-13-08 23:29pm
Thank you very much!
Although not exactly a "Christian", per
se, I always appreciate it when people
pray for me! What harm can it do, right?
Peace and Love,
-Peter
PS- As an update: Things are the same, if
not much, much worse currently. She's
still as mad as ever and things are not
looking good for my "anniversary" plan. I
just don't see it coming together in that
short amount of time! I'm still going to
not give up, though!
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tyler02
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Posts: 2 Location: ,
how much do you care?she may need time to work her feelings out Posted: 01-16-08 11:48am
BE HER FRIEND ,SHE NEEDS THAT ,
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Wozzie
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, UK
Sensitive Posted: 01-26-08 09:56am
What a beautiful, caring and sensitive
young man you are and how lovely you are
thinking of romantic ways to get back
together.
In spite of her condition, however, I am
sorry she chooses to place all the
responsibility on you: "You blew it!"
The greatest aid in life is when we start
looking at the role we played in the
situation - and we had to - we're always
there, right? And yet, if she is unable
to do this because of her condition, it
might not be possible for her.
I was wondering if it would help for you
to speak to her mother. Be as honest as
you clearly are (I LOVE my boyfriend for
his honesty as it encourages me and helps
me feel safe to do the same - and yes, we
also celebrate monthly anniversaries) and
say that you don't know what her
daughter's told her about you; that she
might think it's over for good - but to
please let her know in any moments where
she needs someone that you will always be
there for her - be it as friend or lover.
All the best to you. It sounds like a
genuine struggle.