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kaerbear
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Antidepressant overuse ?
Posted: 01-10-08 19:59pm
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seems like a lot of people are depressed
these days. as soon as someone starts to
complain about life the first thing people
say is get on antidepressants. isn't it
normal to feel bad when things are going
bad? i'm not saying they don't help some
people, i've even been on them myself, but
it seems like people are starting to think
they are a cure-all. i know they are not
as safe as they are presented to be. i
had a really bad reaction when i stopped
taking zoloft and my cousin had a
psychotic reaction when she was on paxil.
are we all being duped by the drug
companies and pill pushing doctors to
think that because life sometimes sucks,
we need to numb out and not experience
real pain? that pain is supposed to
motivate us to do something about the
cause of it. we just live in such an
isolating, alienating culture that
revolves around consuming. it only
follows that we believe if we can't find
our artificial joy at the mall we can just
order up some happy pills.
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Roberta777
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Agree With You
Posted: 01-10-08 20:35pm
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It seems to me that life should be better
and more comfortable for us, but then,
where would we be able to get the things
that make us want to climb more and more
mountains, try to keep trying. Trying and
being able to achieve things in even hard
circumstances make us go on and live on.
Karebare, you are such an honest woman.
All you have to do is look into your face
and know that.
The Italians as well as many others love a
wonderful glass of red wine. It helps the
heart, the digestion and gives you some
joy.
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Posted: 01-10-08 20:39pm
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Some people don't react well to meds. That
doesn't mean everyone should stop taking
them.
However, my first advice is ALWAYS to talk
to someone. Therapy first. A properly
trained psychiatrist will never consider
medicating first. My psychology teacher
was a great psychologist; he always
thoroughly examined his patients before
deciding what course of therapy was best
for them. If they needed medication before
starting, he'd get them the prescription.
Some people DO NEED medication because
their brains are actually imbalanced. No
amount of happy thinking can change broken
valves.
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Posted: 01-10-08 20:39pm
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Oh by the way, it's been discovered that
whatever it is that's in red wine and
tomatoes and all that.... doesn't actually
help prevent heart disease. Lypozene or
something.
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Roberta777
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Look At the Culture
Posted: 01-10-08 20:44pm
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Of people who indeed enjoy their red wine,
their tomatoes, fresh vegetables. Go
there, and you seldom see obese people.
And, of course, they have a diet based on
grains.
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Posted: 01-10-08 21:34pm
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I'm not saying Italians don't eat healthy,
I am saying research proves that wine does
NOT prevent heart disease. Being a proper
weight, however, DOES.
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Posted: 01-10-08 21:43pm
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There are "fads" in diagnoses.
There is certainly the heavy influence of
pharmaceutical companies.
There are of course legitmate needs for
meds.
It's important to balance needs for meds
with possible negatives side effects.
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Posted: 01-11-08 08:31am
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I haI had anxiety attack a few years ago..
and my doctor put me on lexapro. I noticed
nothing.. and then she put me on
Wilburtin.. She said one helps the other..
"right" My heart felt like it was going to
jump right out of my chest. I quit talking
them.. and I gave up caffeine.. No more
attacks..
My hubby has vividen<----sp... he
takes for his back. When he takes it he is
in la la land. I hurt my back once and
took one and felt nothing..
All that stuff just doesn't seem to effect
me.. Now red wine.. a couple glass of that
and I'm fine.. 
d anxity attack a few years ago.. and my
doctor put me on lexapro. I noticed
nothing.. and then she put me on
wellbrutin.. She said one helps the
other.. My heart felt like it was going to
jump right out of my chest. I quit talking
them.. and I gave up caffine.. No more
attacks..
My hubby has vikiden<----sp... he
takes for his back. When he takes it he is
in la la land. I hurt my back once and
took one and felt nothing..
All that stuff just doesn't seem to effect
me.. Now red wine.. a couple glass of that
and I'm fine..
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Posted: 01-11-08 13:25pm
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A few comments-
Some people really NEED medication, and
it's a lifesaver for them.
But for some people, it's not the best
option.
Most people see a regular doctor instead
of a psychologist for
ADHD/anxiety/depression. Regular docs
aren't knowledgeable enough to do anything
except prescribe meds, so that's what they
do.
Most people want a quick fix and not to
spend time (and money) in therapy to fix a
problem, or to make real changes in their
life.
Pharmaceutical companies make people think
that the only way to get better is
medication, and influence doctors to
prescribe it, even if it might not be the
best option.
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Posted: 01-11-08 14:07pm
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LOL Georgia, when I first looked at your
new avatar.. I thought it was a turkey!
It's pretty! Glad it's not a turkey
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Very Classy Georgia
Posted: 01-11-08 20:38pm
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Posted: 01-12-08 08:35am
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I agree with what Georgia stated above.
Often people who go the anti-depressant
route neglect to do the selfwork that got
them into the place they are in to begin
with. From my own experience, issues that
aren't dealt with may continue to surface
throughout one's life until properly dealt
with and put away for good. I think
anti-depressants or anti-anxiolytics are
good tools to use to help an individual
work through the core of their troubles,
but all too often they are used as a
bandaid for the soul, which is what really
needs to be healed. (I wish it were as
easy as just taking meds) I personally
don't tolerate many medications. After I
had Nanni and was having a lot of anxiety
they put me on Zoloft which caused me to
hallucinate and end up in the ER
practically stuck to the ceiling with my
eyes as big as soup plates. So I am very
cautious when someone suggests new
medications. It makes me nervous. I'd
rather just be healthy but that takes a
lot of hard work and facing some
skeletons....
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kaerbear
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Posted: 01-12-08 10:11am
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aren't you tired of hearing "talk to your
doctor"? you can't just confide in a
friend anymore without hearing, "oh go see
the doctor and he will fix you up with
something". and now people don't just
feel anxious about something or have a
crappy day, they have anxiety attacks or
panic attacks. we just adopt the
vocabulary and the mindset from the
commercials and the "news" media without
any thought or discretion. it's no longer
normal to have ups and downs. everyone's
in debt up the ying yang trying to find
happiness in stuff and having panic
attacks about it that they want to shut
off by using a pill. you know, maybe the
panic attacks are trying to tell you it's
time for a change.
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Posted: 01-12-08 10:16am
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We knew a depressed young man once. We did
as much as friends are physically capable
of doing. We even helped him move out of
his parents' house and live with us over
the summer so he could get his life on
track, since he said his parents were
always putting him down. He never got a
job. He never paid any of us a single
cent. He acted depressed, sat around,
never bathed, and used us and our
sympathy. Finally, we kicked him out
again. We were all sick of his games. He
needed HELP from a doctor. He said he'd
been in a clinic once after trying to
commit suicide and that they didn't help
him at all. We're pretty sure he refused
to help himself.
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Posted: 01-12-08 16:19pm
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I visited a friend yesterday who brought
up the idea that in the current state of
the econiomy, politics, global disaster
looming, commercialism, debt, distraction,
only the people paying attention are
having anxiety attacks. And they should
be. I don't know if I agree with that,
but its pretty interesting.
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Posted: 01-12-08 16:20pm
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I visited a friend yesterday who brought
up the idea that in the current state of
the econiomy, politics, global disaster
looming, commercialism, debt, distraction,
only the people paying attention are
having anxiety attacks. And they should
be. I don't know if I agree with that,
but its pretty interesting.
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Posted: 01-12-08 16:33pm
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I think we all should have a joint, smoke
some wine, eat some junk food, giggle and
go to bed,,
Just kidding.. I know a lot of people that
have anxiety attacks and the meds help..
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Posted: 01-12-08 16:37pm
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Smoke some wine? Marty, You've been
drinking before noon again, haven't
you????
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Posted: 01-12-08 16:37pm
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Smoke some wine? Marty, You've been
drinking before noon again, haven't
you????
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