chances of being pregnant ? Posted: 01-16-08 22:20pm
Ok, I'm 19, and my boyfriend and I have
been dating for 4 months now, and we were
fooling around. I know that unprotected, I
always have the chance of pregnancy, but I
know pre-cum's chances are slim to none of
causing it (though they're still there).
My concern is that, about 15 days before
my next period is supposed to be, we were
messing around doing small stuff, and he
put it in unprotected. I pulled off
supposedly before he came, but he still
got a small amount in there.
This is where you can tell I got quite
scared and desperate. I went to the
bathroom immediately afterward and scooped
out what I could of it with my fingers,
and (I know it's gross), I'd heard urine
was a natural spermicide and put some on a
cotton swab and thoroughly doused my
inside with it. About 7 hours later, we
went and got a douche for me to use in the
shower, a vineger and water combo, which I
did.
Lastly, I got a list of foods that you
aren't supposed to eat while pregnant,
because they can naturally induce
abortions, and some included caffeine,
spicy foods, sushi, deli meats, and
shellfish, and I've been eating
practically nothing but that since the day
we did it.
Please, I need to know what my chances are
after doing all that so I know whether to
start lining up an abortion or not.
BTW: My next period starts Jan 26, we did
it on Jan 13, and my periods are between
26-28 days long usually. They've been
heavy flows mostly, pain and all, and I
got birth control, but haven't been able
to use it yet because I can't start it
until my next period.
Also, if it helps, I know that when you've
ovulated, your vaginal excretions look
like mucus. I don't monitor my
temperature, so I can't tell by that, but
I know I haven't had that type of
discharge yet this month. Does this mean I
haven't ovulated yet?
Please help me!
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mc4ever02
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Posted: 01-16-08 23:01pm
You had sex on the 13th? If so, you can
still get plan B. I highly suggest it.
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Lilly Ivy
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Posted: 01-16-08 23:26pm
I agree with the Plan B.
I'm not 100% on the food, but if you've
never eaten/drunken them before, I believe
it is possible to put your body into shock
from it and possibly abort the baby, but
don't count on it.
The douche thing is possible to stop the
sperm, but that's usually directly after
sex. In fact, people from the Depression
would do it so much, women actually died
from bleeding out caused from dryness
because they would douche every time. And
that much vinegar is just not healthy for
your who-ha! That's why they say 4 times a
year (I think, I've only read it once).
As for the urine, I know it's sterile in
some ways, but I doubt it would be a
spermicide, unless the pH is relatively
high. Who knows, if you're not pregnant
that might have done it, but I doubt it.
Again... Go for the Plan B. Not really
affective after 72 hours though (3 full
days).
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Tarra
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Posted: 01-17-08 00:08am
Which totally sucks, because that was 4
days ago... and I don't even know what
Plan B is ._.
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 01-17-08 00:41am
You need to go RIGHT NOW to a drugstore
and ask a pharmacist for Plan B. It is an
extra high dose of birth control pill that
will delay your ovulation so that the
sperm will have nothing to fertilize.
GO RIGHT NOW.
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 01-17-08 00:46am
click here to find where to get plan b in
your area:
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Posted: 01-17-08 08:48am
none of those foods will make you
miscarry/abort, your only option for that
is either plan b or wait until you find
out one way or the other then decide from
there
~alicia~
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Jude-Love
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Posted: 01-17-08 12:40pm
Let me see if I'm correct here: You
douched with urine?
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 01-17-08 12:49pm
People will try anything. Nothing
surprises me. Before abortion was legal
you would not believe what people did.
Some women poured lye or acid into their
bodies.
This is what I think is shocking:
Tarra
wrote:
I don't even know what Plan
B is ._.
It's not Tara's fault that she doesn't
know about it, it is society's fault.
Somewhere along the line, whether the
school failed to educate her, her parents,
her family doctor or the media, someone
failed her, and many other young people as
well.
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young Girl
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Posted: 01-17-08 12:59pm
i agree go get plan B
also the chance of getting pregnant from
precum is nto slim to none
there are many girls on here that have
gitten pregnant from it
and like alicia said those foods wont
"induce" a miscarriage or anything
they just arent healthy for you during
pregnancy.
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Posted: 01-17-08 13:17pm
Someone asked me for the 2003 study about
pre-ejaculate. Here it is:
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Posted: 01-17-08 13:44pm
I wasn't aware of Plan B until I came to
this forum...
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Posted: 01-17-08 15:55pm
futureshock
wrote:
Someone asked me for the
2003 study about pre-ejaculate.
where?
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Ingi
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Posted: 01-17-08 16:26pm
Futureshock: PLEASE do not post partial
information.
It misleads these young girls into
thinking that the PULL OUT method is an
actual method of birth control WHICH IT IS
NOT! No doctor or clinic would ever
condone these girls using the PULL OUT
method as their sole method of birth
control!
The part you left out:
Welcome to sex-ed 101. Today, we are
learning about Pre-Cum.
Pre-ejaculate fluid, also known as
Pre-cum, is essential for reproduction.
Cowper’s gland secretion lubricates the
urethra, so that sperm is able to to
smoothly ejaculate into a woman’s
vagina.
Question 1: HIV is present in Pre-cum.
T/F
True. Scientists have proven that HIV is
present in pre-cum, mostly macrophages and
CD4 lymphocytes. Meaning, if you have
sex with someone that has HIV without a
condom and he doesn’t ejaculate, you can
still get HIV.
Question 2: Sperm is present in pre-cum.
T/F
FALSE. Sperm being present in pre-cum is a
myth, so go crazy. Sources are here, and
here. It is physically impossible for
sperm to creep up the epididymis into the
urethra unless the male is going through
an orgasm. The only explanation of how
sperm could possibly be in a male’s
urethra before orgasm, is that there were
traces of semen lining the urethral walls
(from a previous orgasm) before.
This also says that the
“withdrawal” method is a 100%
successful, no sperm, no baby. However,
the average failure rate of 27% is
probably because of waiting for the
absolute last moment, or the person simply
doesn’t know what he’s doing.
This is one of the studies that was cited
in the page you directed to: Author is
UNKNOWN
PIP: A study in Boston, Massachusetts,
and another study in New York City
examined samples of pre ejaculate fluid
from HIV seropositive and HIV seronegative
men to determine whether HIV was or was
not present in pre ejaculate fluid. The
researchers found macrophages and CD4
lymphocytes in most samples, indicating
that HIV was present. The more significant
finding, however, was that most pre
ejaculate samples did not contain any
sperm and those that did had only small
clumps of a very small amount of sperm
which seemed to be immobile. A larger
study is needed to verify these
results. If these results are
confirmed, they may dispel the myth that
pre ejaculate fluid contains sperm. An
ongoing WHO/USAID study shows that the
pregnancy rate caused by men with 3
million sperm/ml/ejaculation is very low;
fertility clinics consider men with a
sperm count of no more than 5 million/ml
to be infertile, particularly if is there
is low motility. The average ejaculation
has about 100 million sperm/ml, but about
10 million sperm pass through the cervical
mucus, about 1 million make it to the top
of the uterine tract, and just about
100,000 sperm reach the fallopian tubes.
Thus, only a couple of sperm, assuming
motility, would reach the fallopian tubes
in the case of the pre ejaculate samples
with some sperm, which tended to be
immobile (sperm levels only in the 1000s).
Thus, the probability of pregnancy is
very low if pre-ejaculate fluid enters the
vagina. Pre-ejaculate fluid of 6 of
the 9 HIV seropositive donors in Boston
and 6 of the 14 HIV seropositive donors in
New York contained HIV, regardless of
symptom status or antiretroviral therapy
status. Thus, the risk of HIV transmission
may be higher than unplanned pregnancy, so
people should use condoms before the penis
enters the vagina, mouth, or
anus.
NOTICE PLEASE that is says VERY LOW but
does NOT say IMPOSSIBLE!
This is a foolish, foolish foolish thing
for any of the girls who come here to
think they or their boyfriends can master.
They need to use condoms! They need
information on where to go for good
correct information. Posting studies about
something that is NOT HEALTHY and is
UNSAFE for them is not going to help
anyone!
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young Girl
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Posted: 01-17-08 17:27pm
i agree with ingi 100% ive been trying to
say this forever lol
i even made a post about it
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blackcat34
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Posted: 01-17-08 23:45pm
futureshock
wrote:
Someone asked me for the
2003 study about pre-ejaculate. Here it
is:
were to start on this... Ok.. the first
source on that website.. well first of all
it does not state authors... that right
there discredits the whole article.
Second.. it just says the study was done
in Boston and NYC... it doesnt state if it
was done at hospital or a university...
so there is no way to actually find out if
this information is true or not... Third..
it only says that 14 test subjects were
tested in New York... is that all? That
number is so small that any scientist who
reads that study will not even consider
the study to be viable. Fourth... there
is no mention at all if this study was
peer reviewed.. this is very important in
the scientific community... cuz if a paper
is not reviewed it can not be
published...if it is published it isnt
worth anything... Lastly... You found this
on the internet.... alot of "scientific"
reports found on the net are not true or
are ideas... unless they are peer
reviewed, posted by an acredited
University/Hospital/Scientific
Organization.
Next Source... Everything looks good
here... it has Authors, a place where the
study was done... Purpose, Methods, and
Results... looks like a legit scientific
paper....oh wait... there is that thing
with only 12 people being studied... The
reason I mention this is that in any
scientific study you need a large number
of data points in order to say
statistically that your findings either
say yes your hypothesis is viable or
not...
In the anatomy classes and the advanced
physiology class I took, when I was a
biology major, I read (from a published
book), and was lectured to (by an MD) that
there is sperm in pre ejaculate. I said
was a bio major cuz I am now an
environmental science major...just in case
you were wondering. Every scientific
paper I have read has (because it is
required) all the things I have mentioned
that those studies are missing. When we
do papers for my classes our professors
will dock points off if you even quote
anything that is not a real paper.... if
Wikipedia is quoted, points are taken off
automatically...because of the way Wiki is
done... anyone can put information on
there and change it freely.
As far as that statement about sperm being
in the urethra from a previous
ejaculation.... well wouldnt the male have
had to urinate sometime in between? If he
did then what ever sperm cells left in
there would either be washed away or
killed.... they can not survive in the
hostile environment that urine provides.
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blackcat34
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Posted: 01-17-08 23:47pm
BridgetHeartsFinn
wrote:
futureshock
wrote:
Someone asked me for the
2003 study about pre-ejaculate.
Joined: 17 Jun 2007 Posts: 727 Location: Williamstown, Kentucky USA
Posted: 01-17-08 23:51pm
Actually, I'm almost positive about
pre-cum resulting from previous
ejaculation is correct. That is probably
why it doesn't usually get someone
pregnant.
Meh. To me, people should be using birth
control to prevent pregnancy, not condoms.
Condoms are for preventing diseases. If
people would just use birth control,
precum would not be an issue.
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ohmyitsdi
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Posted: 01-17-08 23:56pm
plan b girl.
but you had sex 4 days so the 18th is the
last day you can get it so i'd hurry up.
good luck
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Posted: 01-18-08 00:25am
Ingi
wrote:
Futureshock: PLEASE do
not post partial information.
It misleads these young girls into
thinking that the PULL OUT method is an
actual method of birth control WHICH IT IS
NOT! No doctor or clinic would ever
condone these girls using the PULL OUT
method as their sole method of birth
control!
The part you left
out:
I ALWAYS POST A SOURCE SO PEOPLE CAN READ
THE ENTIRE PAGE FOR THEMSELVES. It is
hard enough to get people to read a small
paragraph, so they can read as much as
they want .
ALSO, the VERY FIRST thing highlighted in
my post said this:
The only explanation of how sperm could
possibly be in a male’s urethra before
orgasm, is that there were traces of semen
lining the urethral walls (from a previous
orgasm) before.
I have also stated, every time I bring
this up, that the withdrawal method has a
high failure rate because guys, especially
younger guys, can not control when they
ejaculate as well as they think, and also
I ALWAYS ADD that there CAN BE SPERM IN
PRE EJACULATE. I explain that sperm from
a prior ejaculation can mix with the pre
ejaculate and impregnate a woman.
I have never, ever suggested withdrawal is
a valid form of birth control, because it
is not. Pre ejaculate can get you
pregnant, and I have never said otherwise.
I am simply explaining how and why pre
ejaculate can cause pregnancy.
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