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oopoopoop

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Posted: 04-30-04 19:25pm

I think you will find there is no such definition of homicide in any statute.
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samie

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Posted: 04-30-04 20:28pm

Then how come people go to prison for this non statue thing called homicide?
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Posted: 05-01-04 02:10am

Lordy, lordy lordy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes

try listening to yourselves, you just do not get it do you, a baby deserves to live with love, care & health & with a family - but a mother deserves to acknowledge that she is also a person, a woman & that she may not be willing for reasons that are not our business (private reasons be they abuse, health - hers or her babies, family whatever) that sheis not willing to have a child now & maybe not ever. If men had the womb, we would not have this topic, there would be very few if any babies born at all, they don't have the guts to carry a baby much less give birth & then care for it.

To those up themselves pro-lifers try to read my post & note that I say baby not foetus, baby & if you read my other posts you will see the same - although in referring to the son I aborted I say my son not the baby & not the/a foetus. I think you should read a little more carefully befroe you accuse pro-choice people of never doing/saying/calling.

Then again I think you should all have to walk in the shoes of someone who had to make a decision whether or not to abort - & you should have to really find out what it means to be that person before you judge them.
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Posted: 05-01-04 06:53am

Once again sammy that is not even slightly logical. To have an operation that will indefinately kill the baby but will save the mother is fine. But to have an abortion that will indefinately kill the baby but will save the mother is not o.K. Whatever.
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zilbucks

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Posted: 05-01-04 08:17am

Exactly!!! And samie, no I will not refer to it as an unborn human being, becasue like you believe it is not a fetus and wish to call it otherwise, I believe it is a fetus and choose to call it as I believe.
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jessechaseme

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Posted: 05-01-04 08:42am

Say it loud, say it proud... Fetus. Very good, again.... Fetus!
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Posted: 05-01-04 12:50pm

Say it loud, say it proud... Human being. Very good, again.... Human being!

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Posted: 05-01-04 13:32pm

I am pro-choice & I call a baby a baby even when it is still unborn but as a pro-choicer I believe that a person be they pro-choice or not has the right to call an unborn baby a foetus.

In the end (or the beginning) does it actually matter whether we say baby, unborn child or foetus or use a foreign word for that matter, we are arguing semantics which are totally irrelevant to the topic which is whether a woman should have the right to have an abortion or not or only under certain circumstances or before a certain number of weeks etc etc.

Everyone has a right (repeat right Exclamation Exclamation ) to their own view & I don't expect to change yours, although I would like everyone to have more open minds - open to the idea that they might be wrong, that there might be views out there that are different (not wrong, just different) and allowed even though they are different. Sure we should draw lines but around the edge of those lines is a huge grey area in most cases.

Bigotry, narrow or closed minds do not beget understanding or allow for change, only open communication & a willingness to really consider the argument from another persons viewpoint & shoes is the way to bring about change & acceptance that none of us are god & so none of us have all the answers.
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jessechaseme

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Posted: 05-01-04 14:06pm

I think you summed it up with the last line. "no one has the answers" (not to exclude myself.) if we'd keep that in mind we would be a much better world... That's why I think a woman should have the right to choose. It keeps the option open no matter what the sociably acceptable opinion of the time.

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zilbucks

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Posted: 05-01-04 15:17pm

"noone has the answers" right. We try to find the most accurate answers for laws based mostly upon history, we learn about history so we don't repeat it. Hence, why abortion was legalized, .- noone claims it to be 100% right, or wrong it is simply so history wil not repeat itself.
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samie

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Posted: 05-01-04 21:13pm

"try listening to yourselves, you just do not get it do you, a baby deserves to live with love, care & health & with a family"

how can you say that, then say a baby deserves to die because of inconvieniance? It makes no sense at all

i am pro life, simply because I accept the biological fact of the begining of a human beings life, and also I believe(opinion) it is wrong to kill inncocent human beings for any reason. My "choice" is moral, pragmatic and scientific.

The choice to abort is based entirly upon opinion and the right to choose never the less the right to life preceeds all other rights. These women would not have the choice to abort their child if they were not given the right to life.

So therefore is it safe to say a womans right to life is more important than their her right to choose. So if we regard the right to life more important than the right to choose, why do we as equel human beings allow the right to choose to kill a certain class of human beings to overshadow the right to life of that same group.
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Posted: 05-01-04 22:06pm

So if a woman will kill herself rather than remain pregnant, then her right to life would be allowed?
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Posted: 05-01-04 23:16pm

No, poopoopoo what the right to lifers are saying is that so long as the pregnant woman kills herself the fate of the baby is irrelevant so all is copacetic (sp?) Rolling Eyes

you see to them the whole debate is over if the pregnant woman is dead (they no longer care about the baby after all it's probably dead too!! & there's no-one alive to blame or send to hell).

Still it does work well with points elsewhere about the overpopulation of this planet & the need to reduce said population!! Twisted Evil
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zilbucks

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Posted: 05-02-04 03:21am

Ayyye all this jibba jabba sammi- abortion is legal, if you want to try and change it become a politician - you don't like abortion? Don't have one- er anymore. Prolife women who don't have abortions even if they were raped,etc- whatever thats faaaaabulous for them, but you'll just have to acknowledge that other people have seperate beliefs- just like we can't persuade you to believe what we think you can't persuade pro choice to believe what you think, and that's why this argument goes on and on- you refuse to accept that someone has a difference of opinion and until we alllll see your way it won't stop, so just save everyone alot of annoyance and just allow us our opinions instead of saying we're wrong
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zilbucks

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Posted: 05-02-04 16:56pm

Yaaaaaaaay no response, I win Laughing
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Posted: 05-03-04 08:47am

Whooohooo! Laughing
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Posted: 05-03-04 10:54am

I didnt get to read the post, so no you didnt "win"!! You are wrong for believing that its ok to kill an unborn baby, because im sure you believe its not ok to go kill a 40 year old person because hes an inconvenience. Tahts where youre wrong. The law is hypocritical and should not be that way!

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Posted: 05-03-04 11:22am

Omg the "winning" was just a joke. And for your information not all abortions are for "convenience" as you put it.
Sometimes the mother and child will die if the child is carried to term, sometimes a girl is raped by her father, (no she should not have to carry that baby) and if a girl is raped by anyone for that matter it is her choice whether or not she has to give birth. It is not my choice, your choice or anyone else's. It is hers.
I don't like people who get abortions just because they did not feel like using protection and then they fell pregnant, but at the same time if they are that irresponsible then they should not have children anyway.
Bottom line, not our choice.
And no we are not "wrong" we have the law on our side anyway.
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zilbucks

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Posted: 05-03-04 11:25am

"i didnt get to read the post, so no you didnt "win"!! You are wrong for believing that its ok to kill an unborn baby, because im sure you believe its not ok to go kill a 40 year old person because hes an inconvenience. Tahts where youre wrong. The law is hypocritical and should not be that way! "

talk about a sore loser.Juuuuuust kidding, this is exactly what i'm talking about. Your telling me i'm wrong for what my beliefs are. You guys are showing me facts that like someone else pointed out I can argue with my own facts, maybe its not so much your facts but your cynical judgemental negative attitude that makes me even more prochoice every single reply that you post. Until you prolifers can find hard proof of when a fetus - yes*fetus becomes a human being, then ok i'll aggree- but i'll still be prochoice- and even then it will take a lot of convincing from prolife to change the law becasue they have such horrible my way or no way attitudes, and that is not what democracy is about. And paaaalease show me one law that isn't hypocrytical of one thing or another.
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Posted: 05-03-04 15:53pm

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