Chandaloss & bellabolema- since we've
started name calling...You two should
really grow up. Get out of your parents
house. Then you can work on your
judgement of the world.
Kisses,
jesse
fellow atheist
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carvytaph
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 87 Location: Pennsylvania
Posted: 05-31-04 01:59am
poopoopoo
wrote:
it may be not a nice act for
those who believe in your god and your
commandments, in which case they will
(according to your religion) be punished
in the afterlife. I'd be ready to take
my chances, frankly. To be honest, if I
did believe in an afterlife, i'd want to
make sure I got to hell, just to avoid
spending eternity with people like
you.
maybe your wish will be granted, then
you'll be like the man in the bible who
was pleaing for just a drop of water to
cool his tongue!!
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carvytaph
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 87 Location: Pennsylvania
Posted: 05-31-04 02:25am
julia_smith_21
wrote:
that's not what i'd call a
very educated or informed answer.
Name-calling is the last resort of
somebody who knows they've lost a
debate.
And yes, i'm sure we'd have great fun in
hell, since if the bible were true, heaven
could not theoretically exist, and even if
it did, it would be
empty.
if the bible were true, then heaven could
not theoretically exist?? Do you read
the bible? All through the old and new
testament is mention of heaven. In the
first book of the bible, called genesis,
it states that god created the heavens and
the earth. So "even if the bible were
true" heaven would exist.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
what I see here are many stubborn people
who just want to get a rise out of others.
They don't care what the other person
believes, they just want to be argued.
The people that really care are the ones
that ask honest questions, not the ones
that are just looking for a fight. Did
you ever think that maybe the ones that
believe abortion is wrong, have a right to
their opinions? Just as you think they
are trying to "jam" their religion down
your throat, you, on your side of the
arguement, are pretty set in your ways.
Is there a difference? Did you ever try
to see their side of the arguement? The
best way to settle a fight is to try to
see the other side. If you dont' see the
other side then you drop what you've said
and say, "you believe what you believe.
I'll believe what I believe, " and respect
each others decision.
Maybe before we all jump in head first
into a lake full of man-eating sharks, we
should all re-think our intent to post in
here. If it is to educate, help or
encourage another, then let the comments
continue. But just as you are starting
fights and speaking on a whim, you are
creating more fights, frustration and
confusion. To one side of an arguement
there will always be an opposite. Let's
not forget that we will never change
anyone's way of thinking.
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Sinsaint
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 May 2004 Posts: 90
Posted: 05-31-04 06:34am
Quote:
do you read the
bible? All through the old and new
testament is mention of heaven. In the
first book of the bible, called genesis,
it states that god created the heavens and
the earth. So "even if the bible were
true" heaven would
exist.
since the subject of god and heaven has
come up, can someone explain to me why, in
all the years of it's existance, has noone
seen this glorious place? Is it a bunch
of angels strumming harps on clouds? Is
it a very simplistic version of earth
where we all live in a utopia society?
Is it new york with no crime and cabbys
who understand english? Why can we
travel to mars but not a single person has
ever found, seen or given an accurate
description of heaven?
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
Posted: 05-31-04 07:41am
Because if we could see it, we would not
need all the requirements for entering it
for eternity and is not a geographically
set place. It's abstract yet concrete,
it's hard to explain.
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
Posted: 05-31-04 07:44am
[quote="carvytaph"]
poopoopoo
wrote:
it may be not a nice act for
those who believe in your god and your
commandments, in which case they will
(according to your religion) be punished
in the afterlife. I'd be ready to take
my chances, frankly. To be honest, if
I did believe in an afterlife, i'd want to
make sure I got to hell, just to avoid
spending eternity with people like
you.
you do not want to go to hell because
whatever is the worst thing you can
imagine, that will be your hell. You do
not want to go, trust me. It's alot more
than a place opposite of heaven, it is
hell. Whatever your worst phobia or
whatever will come true for the rest of
eternity which is more than a day or a
year.
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 05-31-04 14:41pm
This is not a religion forum so let's
please leave it out of here.
And you know what everyone is entitled to
their opinions. Prolife or prochoice.
And yes, we are all "set in our ways"
and also, this is a debate forum. So
yes, there will be debating.
