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Biani
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Does TMJ mean an asymmetrical face?
Posted: 01-22-08 19:45pm
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I'm just wondering... does everyone who
has TMJ have an asymmetrical face or
jaws?
I think i may have TMJ, there's a lot of
popping on my jaw, no pain though.
But my lower jaw midline is deviated to
the left. It seems that no one really
notices, or maybe they're just sparing my
feelings and not bringing it up.
Thanks in advance for any input you can
give me.
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Posted: 01-23-08 10:03am
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No. I've always had minor tmd and my face
use to be extremely symmetrical. my friend
also has tmj and her face is symmetrical
as well. It depends on your case. For ex.
now that I do have an asymmetrical face,
my jaw joints move at different rates, and
that explains the asymmetry in my case.
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Posted: 01-23-08 10:10am
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As i wrote before, your case is very
similar to mine and going to a tmj
specialist is your best bet. I wish I
would've done that! Good luck
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Biani
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Posted: 01-23-08 12:10pm
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Thank you very much. I will try to get to
a tmj specialist first.
Just wondering... just how asymmetric did
your face get after braces? And do you
know why it happened? i read your other
post about the arches, but i didn't quite
understand what that is... excuse my
ignorance on the subject, lol.
Did the braces make your jaw rest at a
different point or something like that?
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Posted: 01-23-08 16:30pm
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not every one with tmj has an asymmetic
face. braces move the teeth and they rest
in a different manner than before.
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Posted: 01-24-08 02:58am
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It got pretty bad. In the beginning of
treatment my bite felt great. I got 3
premolars extracted and everything was
going well but towards the halfway point
he started putting elastics on my teeth to
shift it around and I started noticing
etreme assymetry to the point where one
eye looked higher than the other my lips,
nose looked crooked and the cheeckbones on
one side of my face and nose went flat.
Which is insane because i had prominant
high nose and cheeckbones. one side of my
face at an angle didn't look anything like
the other.
The process of orthodontia is very gradual
as well as the changes so i didnt realize
just how drastic the physical changes were
until recently when i stopped wearing my
retainers and allowed my teeth to start
relapsing my face did as well.
say U is my original arch, now one sides a
U and the other a V and the midline on my
gum of the upper jaw slants like /. Before
relapse the line was really a zig zag so
things have improved.
Orthodontics made things EXTREMELY bad in
my case. It's bad now but it was 455554477
times worse before which is why I'm
curious about how nmd would work in this
instance.
believe it or not, this ortho is a very
achieved, experienced ortho with a
backround in tmj/orofacial pain and came
highly recommended by MANY.
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Tmddyan
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Posted: 01-24-08 13:33pm
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Yes but they have to be trained to not
only streaigthen the teeth--they must also
work with the muscles.
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Biani
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Posted: 01-24-08 20:43pm
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Wow. Your description kind of sounds like
my face. One of my eyes looks a little
higher than the other too, but they
aren't. Apparently i always tilt my head a
little to the left to compensate for
what's wrong with me. It took me some
analizing of pictures of me to realize
what was crooked in my face. Turned out my
nose and mouth are the things that are
crooked. I didn't think teeth would affect
how your nose looks... interesting to
find that out. My nose looks different
from the right than from the left. Maybe
that's caused by the tmj as well?
Ugh... the more i find out about what
treatment can do, the less i want to do
something about my asymmetry. It sounds
very risky.
Thank you so much for sharing your story
with me.
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Posted: 01-26-08 12:22pm
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no problem. how long have you had your
noticible assymetry for and do you have an
idea as to what may have triggered it? the
side of my teeth that's the V shape is the
side that's flat facially. As that side of
my arch was pushed back so did that side
of my face because of the supporting
muscles. In that way I don't know if your
case might be similar to mine. Going to an
orthodontist whose main goal is to
straighten teeth is superficial and may
cause more damage but a tmj specialist
looks for the root of your disharmony.
Risky nonetheless but the safer bet.
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Posted: 01-28-08 18:50pm
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I don't really know for sure when it all
started. I have been analizing pictures of
when i was a kid, and i looked pretty
symmetrical. I think my asymmetry started
at around 13 or so, it wasn't that
noticeable though. When i really took
notice was after braces. I didn't get full
braces, back then what really bothered me
was that my teeth were so crowded that one
of my canines stuck out a lot. I got
braces to get it down, and that's all that
the braces did. I had them for 6 months
only. My front two teeth still overlap a
little, like they used to.
I remember my dentist telling me to close
my mouth after taking the braces off, i
closed it, and had to slide my jaw a
little to the left so my teeth fit
together.
After the braces (i was 20) i noticed i
looked really crooked. I thought it had
been the braces. But as i analized
pictures of me before that, i found that i
was already asymmetric, starting at around
13 or 14 and progressively more noticeable
as the years have gone by.
What i do know is that people used to tell
me i was cute way more often before the
braces, my face did change a little bit.
I don't know what shape my arch is, but i
have noticed that my molars are rotated
inward (the upper right ones and the lower
left ones), i don't know if that's got
anything to do with it all.
In your case, was there any good reason to
make your arch into a V shape? it sounds
irresponsible on your dentist part,
knowing as how it affected your face
muscles and all.
I think that my dentist was irresponsible
with me cause she didn't tell me anything
was wrong with my bite... i was happy to
get my canine down for a very inexpensive
price though.
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Hey
Posted: 06-07-08 11:35am
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My godfather has probably the most crooked
jaw I know. He broke it doing training
stuff in the Army a bunch of years ago,
and never fixed it. I don't know what
bone(s) he broke or how bad it was though.
So while it is crooked, I honestly hardly
notice it -- I don't focus on it, even
though I know it's really crooked. So I'm
gonna all people don't focus on anything
potentially asymmetrical with other
people.
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Posted: 06-09-08 14:04pm
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yeah its not the face that matters ---its
the person
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jaw
Posted: 06-10-08 19:15pm
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Has anyone ever seen or perhaps you do
yourself those people who seem to clench
their jaws and their jaw muscles move?
Brad Pitt does this a lot....
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Posted: 06-10-08 19:58pm
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yes and the purpose of this post is????
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deviation
Posted: 07-02-08 21:42pm
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I also have deviation and I was told that
there is slight assymetry with my jaw line
and the nose - if you draw a straigh line
down the middle of your nose you will see
if there is deviation.
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Posted: 07-03-08 00:29am
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actually all you have to do is stand in
front of the mirror and open---if you
shift either left or right rather than
going straight down you have a
deviation---yet not necessarily assymetry
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