radicals!
There are radicals on every side of every
issue. And I feel this is one..
And it's sad that this has to be going on
ALDEADY.. This poor guys family and love
ones.
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Birch
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Posted: 01-24-08 10:10am
I can't decide if the press they get is a
good thing because they are loony tunes
and the more negative attention they
receive the better, or if the press they
get is a bad thing because the other loony
tunes in the world will use this pile of
dogsnot to justify any
violence/discrimination towards
homosexuals.
There's not much difference between the
Phelp's clan and the Pope's clan; just
prettier words.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 01-24-08 10:40am
I saw that. I just have to shake my head
and roll my eyes. Idiots.
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sillyakchick
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Posted: 01-24-08 12:48pm
Absolute rubbish. Hatred is not a
christian virtue, I am pretty sure.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 01-24-08 13:07pm
I'm pretty sure it's not either. Least,
that's not what I was taught. I know it
happens though:
I was in a Baptist youth group for a month
or so over the summer. At one meeting, we
were made to watch a tape talking about
the evils of homosexuality. I was furious,
but didn't say anything because these were
the only friends I had. They introduced me
to smoking (on an old abandoned railroad
bridge - how stereotypical!). I left the
group after this event and after
confessing I'd smoked a cigarette to my
parents. The group was later involved in a
sex/drugs party a few years later.
None of those kids - or their parents -
were real christians.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 01-24-08 13:12pm
It makes me so angry... I almost want to
become christian to help end the hate!!
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sistersister
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Posted: 01-24-08 14:40pm
The phelps are not xian or any thing other
than phelps. Their god is the mentally
disdurbed angry hate fixated head of the
cult, fred.
This abusing folk at funerals seems to be
a Kansas thing. We had operation rescue
west show up at one of our chaplains
funerals and angain at the funeral of a
clinic volunteer. One of my close friends
died a few years back she had been a
volunteer and very out spoken about being
pro choice. We literally had to form a
line and physically block them from
pushing their way into her service with
her daughter crying and begging them to
leave. Nothing like having to have the
police called during a funeral service.
One of their creepy people did get in and
signed the guess book. Her daughter was
so upset that even that got defiled by
them.
The phelps love the attention and I think
that if the press would simply ignore them
they would be forced to find another
tactic to get that attention. For such a
small group of morons they are getting
world class coverage to spread their hate.
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Roberta777
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Just Reading Posted: 01-24-08 15:59pm
That garbage made me nausious. Those
people really have a lot of time on their
hands. Must be a 24/7 full time job being
able to fill in every moment with hate.
I loved Brokeback Mountain. Especially,
the role Heath Ledger played as Ennis Del
Mar. He was brilliant, sensitive and
searching for himself. What person hasn't
gone through soul searching in their
life?
Has it really come down to the point we
need to have police or the sheriff's
deputies outside a memorial service? It
seems these crazies are just seeking their
own gratification in what they consider "I
am holy, rightous and I can and indeed
will cast that first stone." Forget what
the bible actually says about love thy
neighbor as yourself.
Love is better than hate. If two people
can find each other and love each other, I
believe that is what God has in mind for
us.
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killbill
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Posted: 01-24-08 19:36pm
January 24, 2008
Fox News Host John Gibson Cruelly Mocks
Heath Ledger's Death and his Role in
Brokeback Mountain
In the wake of Heath Ledger's death,
people around the world are mourning the
gifted actor's passing and are expressing
their appreciation for how he changed
hearts and minds with his Oscar-nominated
role as a gay cowboy in 2005's Brokeback
Mountain.
In a stark and disturbing contrast, Fox
News Radio host John Gibson cruelly mocked
Ledger's death and his role in Brokeback
Mountain during his Jan. 22 John Gibson
Show radio broadcast. During the show,
Gibson played an audio clip from the film
of Jake Gyllenhaal's character, Jack,
telling Ennis (played by Ledger), "I wish
I knew how to quit you." Gibson then
coldly quipped, "Well, he found out how to
quit you." Then, after playing another
audio clip from the movie of Ledger's
character saying, "We're dead," Gibson
mockingly said, "We're dead" and played
the clip again.
“Gibson’s remarks are vulgar and
disgusting,” said Rashad Robinson,
GLAAD’s Senior Director of Media
Programs. “It’s sickening that Gibson
would exploit Heath Ledger’s tragic
death to promote such hurtful intolerance.
And to do so at a time when family and
friends are grieving shows a level of
insensitivity that is beyond the pale.”
Beyond his mockery of Ledger's role in
Brokeback Mountain, Gibson called the
actor a "weirdo" with "a serious drug
problem," and callously speculated on the
reasons Ledger might have committed
suicide. Gibson had previously mocked
Brokeback Mountain–calling it a "gay
agenda movie" on his Fox News TV program
in 2006.
TAKE ACTION NOW!
GLAAD strongly urges you to contact Fox
News and ask its representatives why they
continue to provide a platform for John
Gibson's cruel and tasteless comments.
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 01-24-08 22:15pm
sistersister
wrote:
The phelps are not xian or
any thing other than phelps. Their god is
the mentally disdurbed angry hate fixated
head of the cult, fred.
This abusing folk at funerals seems to be
a Kansas thing. We had operation rescue
west show up at one of our chaplains
funerals and angain at the funeral of a
clinic volunteer. One of my close friends
died a few years back she had been a
volunteer and very out spoken about being
pro choice. We literally had to form a
line and physically block them from
pushing their way into her service with
her daughter crying and begging them to
leave. Nothing like having to have the
police called during a funeral service.
One of their creepy people did get in and
signed the guess book. Her daughter was
so upset that even that got defiled by
them.
The phelps love the attention and I think
that if the press would simply ignore them
they would be forced to find another
tactic to get that attention. For such a
small group of morons they are getting
world class coverage to spread their
hate.
OMG I am so sorry that poor girl had to go
through that ordeal. It makes me sick to
my stomach.
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killbill
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Posted: 01-24-08 22:39pm
January 24, 2008
Fox News Host John Gibson Cruelly Mocks
Heath Ledger's Death and his Role in
Brokeback Mountain
In the wake of Heath Ledger's death,
people around the world are mourning the
gifted actor's passing and are expressing
their appreciation for how he changed
hearts and minds with his Oscar-nominated
role as a gay cowboy in 2005's Brokeback
Mountain.
In a stark and disturbing contrast, Fox
News Radio host John Gibson cruelly mocked
Ledger's death and his role in Brokeback
Mountain during his Jan. 22 John Gibson
Show radio broadcast. During the show,
Gibson played an audio clip from the film
of Jake Gyllenhaal's character, Jack,
telling Ennis (played by Ledger), "I wish
I knew how to quit you." Gibson then
coldly quipped, "Well, he found out how to
quit you." Then, after playing another
audio clip from the movie of Ledger's
character saying, "We're dead," Gibson
mockingly said, "We're dead" and played
the clip again.
“Gibson’s remarks are vulgar and
disgusting,” said Rashad Robinson,
GLAAD’s Senior Director of Media
Programs. “It’s sickening that Gibson
would exploit Heath Ledger’s tragic
death to promote such hurtful intolerance.
And to do so at a time when family and
friends are grieving shows a level of
insensitivity that is beyond the pale.”
Beyond his mockery of Ledger's role in
Brokeback Mountain, Gibson called the
actor a "weirdo" with "a serious drug
problem," and callously speculated on the
reasons Ledger might have committed
suicide. Gibson had previously mocked
Brokeback Mountain–calling it a "gay
agenda movie" on his Fox News TV program
in 2006.
TAKE ACTION NOW!
GLAAD strongly urges you to contact Fox
News and ask its representatives why they
continue to provide a platform for John
Gibson's cruel and tasteless comments.
Please also see MSNBC Hosts, Keith
Olberman and Dan Abrams’ reaction to
Gibson’s on-air remarks.
Just Go To The Post Above Posted: 01-25-08 14:15pm
and lodge your complaint. I did and I
will never, ever watch Foxnews again.
Ever.
Such cruel, hateful intolerance should not
be shoved into our faces. John Gibson
says he doesn't want to have gay
relationships shoved into his face, but,
really who of us want to be subjected to
his views of what is comfortable in his
little world?
Heath Ledger was an actor who played the
role of Ennis Del Mar. How does that now
make him homosexual with a major drug
problem who is now "out of here?"
Must be pressures to get ratings on the
networks. They have seen the last of me.
I will never turn on Foxnews again.
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Lilly Ivy
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Posted: 01-25-08 14:25pm
oh yes because playing make believe is a
sin and anyone who plays cops and robbers
are going to hell because they pretended
to be a robber, therefore they are
robbers!!
bull crap. How ignorant is it to PICKET
someone's FUNERAL because they PLAYED a
part in a movie? it always seems to be the
Baptists too...
I've never seen the movie, but I don't
believe they said anything about god being
a liar... Besides, I though god loved
EVERYONE, what happened to that one?!?
Bible says shun homos and witches, but
THEY ARE PEOPLE TOO!!
People protest because they think it does
something. What have they proven with
35,000 peaceful protests? I've only heard
of this one and I don't give a rats ass of
their opinion. Doesn't ruin my day... What
do they think they'll prove??
They are completely normal people that
have had nothing go wrong in their life
and condemn people for being a different
religion and for being confused about
their gender (some people honestly don't
know if they are male are female and were
BORN that way, they didn't chose it). I
let them believe what they want, but shun
me for my beliefs, I could care less...
Sry so long, just wanted to get that off
my chest....
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Tylanas
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Posted: 01-25-08 14:30pm
Actually I've never read anywhere in the
bible to shun homosexuals... outside of
the Old Testament which as far as my
belief and interpretation of the Bible
goes, Jesus created a new Covenant with
God and humans so the old covenant under
Moses (where Leviticus and all of those
rules came from) is void. I don't think
God necessarily changed his mind on any of
those rules, but just felt that humans
were now ready to eat pork because they
could cook it right, and ready to be
homosexual because the population was big
enough for homosexuality to be helpful for
the population, as it is in many animals
species (which were also made by God lol).
As for witches, I don't actually know. I
know of crazy ladies from the south who
freaked out for the actors of the Harry
Potter movies, saying they were going to
go to hell for reciting spells. Lol!! J.K
Rowling INVENTED all of those spells!!
None of them are real!!
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meblonde01
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Posted: 01-25-08 15:24pm
The bible doesn't use the word homosexual,
but it does state having sexual
relationships men with men and women with
women as a vile affections..
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up
unto vile affections: for even their women
did change the natural use into that which
is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men,
leaving the natural use of the woman,
burned in their lust one toward another;
men with men working that which is
unseemly, and receiving in themselves that
recompense of their error which was meet.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 01-25-08 15:33pm
I know it doesn't actually say
"homosexual" as that is a modern word,
however it does refer to homosexuals in a
very identifiable way as you have quoted.
I have explained many times before why I
do NOT consider the quote from Romans to
be proof of homosexuality being bad or
evil or sick or a sin. Why? Because God
MADE these people gay as a punishment. These are not
natural homosexuals - and it is easy to
interpret a straight person acting gay as
unnatural - as unnatural as it is for a
gay person to act straight.
You never struck me as a homophobe,
MeBlonde...
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homerx
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Posted: 01-25-08 16:15pm
Speaking as a gay man and a reformed
baptist, Jesus never mentions
homosexuality at all. He just says we
should all love and respect each other. In
Leviticus it says no to homosexuality but
it also says women should sit in the back
of church, never speak out or lift there
heads up or cut there hair or show there
legs, never eat shellfish, never should a
man and woman divorce, it goes on and on
and on...and all of these things are
punishable by death according to the old
testament. People pick and choose pieces
of the bible that they want to apply to
there lives and we are all sinners in the
eyes of God so why hate gays when it would
be just as easy to hate yourself for
eating lobster or wearing pants or cutting
your hair, etc.... Love is the
answer...not hate. We are human, thats all
and thats OK. You know, homosexuality
isn't even a human thing, you see
homosexuality in all aspects of the animal
kingdom so it isn't a sin. I was born gay,
have known all my life, have never had sex
with a woman ever and no one made me gay
just like no one can make you straight. To
thine one self be true.
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Posted: 01-25-08 17:01pm
Eiri
wrote:
I know it doesn't actually
say "homosexual" as that is a modern word,
however it does refer to homosexuals in a
very identifiable way as you have quoted.
I have explained many times before why I
do NOT consider the quote from Romans to
be proof of homosexuality being bad or
evil or sick or a sin. Why? Because God
MADE these people gay as a punishment. These are not
natural homosexuals - and it is easy to
interpret a straight person acting gay as
unnatural - as unnatural as it is for a
gay person to act straight.
You never struck me as a homophobe,
MeBlonde...
Eiri.
First I am not a homophobe. You said it
was not in the bible and you are
incorrect. You have to read more of the
bible and not just the parts I posted..
It does pertain to being inmoral. There
are many things trough out the bible that
state it.
It's sort of like the saying "man can not
live on bread alone" people like to use
that saying.. But they don't say the rest
of the verse that follows.
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homerx
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Posted: 01-25-08 17:06pm
Do you were pants or cut your hair or eat
shellfish or speak out in church or lift
your head and look around in church ? Ever
tell a little white lie? Steal a piece of
candy or a toy as a child??If so then you
are as guilty as any homosexual or any
murderer for that madder and you are domed
to a life in eternal Hell....if you
believe everything you read in the bible
then you know that ALL sin is the same in
the eyes of God..Leviticus goes on and on
about what to do and what not to do. And
GOD didn't write the bible, men
did...interpretation is the same today as
it was 2000 years ago....you can find
something in anything if you want to....
