Death due to smoking pot then driving Posted: 01-26-08 12:53pm
In Nashville Indiana today, a man was
convicted or a Dec 2004 death of a 2002
local high school graduate who was 20 at
the time. The victim was a passanger in
the car of the driver who had admitted to
smoking marijuana just before driving.
The driver crossed into the path of
another vehicle, splitting his car into
two pieces that landed 80 feet apart. The
victim died at the scene. Toxicology
tests showed marijuana in his bloodstream.
In another report, according to Billy R
Martin of the acnp:
Effect of Cannibinoids on Performance
Cannabinoids affect sensory, psychomotor,
and cognitive function. It is, therefore,
not surprising that the ability to perform
certain tasks is compromised in some
individuals after smoking marijuana. There
is little dispute that high doses of
marijuana can disrupt performance when the
task is difficult. Cannabinoid-induced
impairment of flying and driving has been
documented. As might be expected, the
effects of marijuana on performance become
more variable as the complexity of the
task is simplified and the dose of
marijuana is reduced. In a comprehensive
review, Chait and Pierri (14) concluded
that marijuana, at doses that produce
moderate levels of intoxication, can
affect a wide range of learned and
unlearned behaviors, including simple
motor tasks, and more complex psychomotor
and cognitive tasks. Their evaluation of
the literature indicated that marijuana
adversely affected gross and simple motor
function (body sway and hand tremor),
psychomotor behaviors (rotary pursuit,
Digit Symbol Substitution Test, reaction
time, accuracy in divided attention tasks,
and sustained attention). Heishman et al.
(47) indicated that marijuana can impair
complex human performance in arithmetic
and recall tests up to 24 hours after
smoking. Therefore, it is not surprising
that motor impairment and diminution of
cognition could easily lead to accidents
and traffic fatalities, and that abuse of
marijuana has been linked to accidents
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homerx
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Posted: 01-28-08 19:47pm
People should NEVER drink and drive or
smoke pot and drive or take pills and
drive or talk on the cell phone and drive
or do there make up and drive...this could
go on 4 ever!
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backpain1955
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Posted: 01-29-08 20:28pm
Since pot shows up in the body a month
later, this means that people should not
drive for a month after smoking weed...
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homerx
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Posted: 02-03-08 22:33pm
backpain1955
wrote:
Since pot shows up in the
body a month later, this means that people
should not drive for a month after smoking
weed...
Now you are just being silly. Prescription
drugs stay in your system for months on
end also.
Does it feel odd to be starting a thread
as algosdoc and then answering yourself as
backpain1955? That is schizoid behavior.
Maybe between the back pain forums and the
Medical marijuana forums you can check out
the mental health forums...it couldn't
hurt!!
Lots of meds stay in your system for
months...lots and lots...does that still
make you intoxicated cuz it can be found
in residual portions in your hair or
blood?
Of course it doesn't...now you are being
ridiculous, algonspain!
PEACE OUT!
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Tylanas
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Posted: 02-04-08 00:18am
We're still investigating Algosdoc and
backpain right now, so we don't know if
they're the same person. We have a policy
not to call out "fakes" in public. If you
suspect something, send a pm to the Admin.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 02-04-08 00:19am
backpain1955
wrote:
Since pot shows up in the
body a month later, this means that people
should not drive for a month after smoking
weed...
Are they HIGH for that whole month? No.
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ldgcat5
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Posted: 02-15-08 20:35pm
Pot will only show up in your body a month
later if the person smokes weed every
single day. If they only smoke on
weekends, it would get out of your system
in a week.
I strongly discourage drinking and driving
and I don't recommend smoking and driving,
but its insane to compare the too
together. Drinking compared to smoking is
completely different in a driving state.
If a regualr pot smoker smoke, per say,
one bowl, and then drives, the smoker will
most likely drive normally.
Last week my friends and I were driving
home. All of my friends were sober except
for the driver. He had been smoking
marijuana all day long and had smoked weed
5 minutes prior to getting in the car. We
got pulled over because his back lights
had gone out. It was obvious by his face
that he was extremely high, so they gave
him a sobriety test (made him walk in a
line, made him follow their fingers, etc)
and he passed it and they let us go. 10
minutes later we got pulled over for the
same thing and again, he passed the
sobriety test.
I don't think twice about getting in a car
with a driver who is high. Honestly, if
the person is a good driver sober, I find
them to be a good driver high. I usually
refuse to get in the car with someone who
is high when I don't think they are good
drivers.
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homerx
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Posted: 02-15-08 21:57pm
I swear, I was just talking about that
very subject to a good friend of mine only
yesterday! So for you to say that really
means a lot to me. I would never get in
the car when the driver was drunk ( or
want to be driving down the same road with
a drunk) but if they have smoked a joint
or whatever and they weren't acting
ignorant then I would. They always drive
the speed limit ( maybe cuz they are a
little paranoid), use there blinkers, stay
a car length back for every 10 MPH,
etc...It just makes since if you have any
real knowledge of the subject and
experience.But...
Be prepared to get some slack, you and I
both, by certain people on these threads
but don't be intimidated. Peace and
Love,homerx
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ldgcat5
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Posted: 02-15-08 22:02pm
Yeah, people have gotten upset with me
many times because I choose to get in a
car with a driver who is high.
The thing is, I don't get in cars with
STUPID drivers who are high.
I personally have driven stoned a few
times before and although I noticed a
differece, driving wasn't any harder. I've
actually driven my mother (who is
completely against drugs, alcohol,
premarital sex, cursing, etc) while I was
COMPLETELY blazed and she did not notice.
That was also the first time I drove on
the highway and she thought I did an
awesome job for my first time.
If you actually concentrate and don't act
stupid, you drive straight.
Do you know why people get into accidents
and die when they drive stoned?
They act stupid and blast the music and
dance around in the car and don't pay
attention to the road.
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homerx
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Posted: 02-15-08 22:13pm
Yep, and thats why a lot of people get in
accidents period. By acting foolish.Now
that you mention it, most people that
drive after using pot do turn the music
down or off, put on there seat belts,
august the mirrors and get prepared to
drive, unlike a drunk.
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ldgcat5
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Posted: 02-16-08 16:19pm
homerx
wrote:
Yep, and thats why a lot of
people get in accidents period. By acting
foolish.Now that you mention it, most
people that drive after using pot do turn
the music down or off, put on there seat
belts, august the mirrors and get prepared
to drive, unlike a
drunk.
yeah thats exactly what my friends do.
They always make sure everyone has their
seatbelts on, they do everything a
cautious driver does.
People who want to act stupid when they
smoke and drive are the reason why people
are getting hurt and blaming it on
marijuana.
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homerx
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Posted: 02-16-08 16:47pm
Exactly...they don't take personal
responsibility...it isn't the marijuana
its the person being ignorant..
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Maddie34
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Posted: 02-16-08 17:59pm
So are you saying that people who are high
are just attentive as those who are not
high? I really don't think so.
I think that if you are on any sort of
drug-- especially one that distorts
your perception on things-- you should
stay out of the driver seat. Anything else
is irresponsible and potentially deadly.
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ldgcat5
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Posted: 02-17-08 11:49am
Maddie34
wrote:
So are you saying that
people who are high are just attentive as
those who are not high? I really don't
think so.
I think that if you are on any sort of
drug-- especially one that distorts
your perception on things-- you should
stay out of the driver seat. Anything else
is irresponsible and potentially
deadly.
thats exactly what I'm saying.
I mean, a teenager driving high can drive
better than a teenager who is blasting
music and just not paying attention or
using their cell phone.
An adult driving high can drive better
than a teenager.
(for the most part)
Obviously, someone who is smoking is a bit
impaired to drive, but it is not as
dangerous as most people believe it to
be...thats why I hate when people compare
drunk driving to stoned driving
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Maddie34
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Posted: 02-18-08 11:20am
I disagree.
Marijuana affects people differently. For
you it may seem like it wouldn’t be a
problem, but how about someone else?
Don’t say its safe because you or a
friend can handle it because that is not
covering everyone.
I'm not impressed that they have everyone
buckle up and they turn down the radio
just to drive high. If being high is the
only distraction they can handle then they
shouldn't be in the driver's seat. Do they
shut off their cell phone every time? I
hope the weather is clear. How about other
people on the road or even in the car? At
least when someone has the radio up they
can turn it down when the other typical
distractions of driving come up.
I'm not comparing it to being drunk, I'm
saying that it lowers your perception on
things which makes it potentially unsafe
for some and highly unsafe for others.
It's a drug, you can't deny that. People
who are taking any sort or drug that
affects how you see things and how you
think should NOT be driving a vehicle.
There are plenty of medications where you
are restricted from driving. I don't see
why marijuana would or should be any
different.
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homerx
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Posted: 02-18-08 11:31am
Maddie 34, you make a good point also.
Personally, I don't want anyone driving
when drunk, high or on pills or on the
phone or anything. I think Idgcat5 was
just comparing the 2...but it is never a
good idea to drive when you are high or
drunk or on pills, etc...its never a good
idea if you ask me, we were just comparing
the 2.
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Birch
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Posted: 02-20-08 20:20pm
I am way too paranoid to drive high. I
have, though, and you've never seen a more
cautious driver!
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ldgcat5
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Posted: 02-23-08 21:17pm
Maddie34
wrote:
I disagree.
Marijuana affects people differently. For
you it may seem like it wouldn’t be a
problem, but how about someone else?
Don’t say its safe because you or a
friend can handle it because that is not
covering everyone.
I'm not impressed that they have everyone
buckle up and they turn down the radio
just to drive high. If being high is the
only distraction they can handle then they
shouldn't be in the driver's seat. Do they
shut off their cell phone every time? I
hope the weather is clear. How about other
people on the road or even in the car? At
least when someone has the radio up they
can turn it down when the other typical
distractions of driving come up.
I'm not comparing it to being drunk, I'm
saying that it lowers your perception on
things which makes it potentially unsafe
for some and highly unsafe for others.
It's a drug, you can't deny that. People
who are taking any sort or drug that
affects how you see things and how you
think should NOT be driving a vehicle.
There are plenty of medications where you
are restricted from driving. I don't see
why marijuana would or should be any
different.
I never said it was safe. In my first post
on this thread, I stated that I don't
recommend that you drive high.
I was clearly stating that driving high is
not nearly as dangerous as most people set
it out to be.
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x-stoner Posted: 03-09-08 01:07am
as a parent, i would say its pretty dumb
to drive high, however.... ive NEVER heard
of anyone dying because they were stoned--
ive been in a vehical with drunk
drivers... NEVER AGAIN!! but (if i still
smoked) id pass a joint to the driver....
pot may slow your reaction time, but so
does changing the radio station-- it
doesnt impair vision like drinking does...
the lines dont move, they dont bend-- just
be scart and be logical about these
things!
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Re: x-stoner Posted: 03-25-08 13:52pm
little_mama_08
wrote:
as a parent, i would say its
pretty dumb to drive high, however.... ive
NEVER heard of anyone dying because they
were stoned-- ive been in a vehical with
drunk drivers... NEVER AGAIN!! but (if i
still smoked) id pass a joint to the
driver.... pot may slow your reaction
time, but so does changing the radio
station-- it doesnt impair vision like
drinking does... the lines dont move, they
dont bend-- just be scart and be logical
about these
things!
.
Of course it doesn't...now you are being
ridiculous, algonspain!
