Abortions are legitimate as well, aren't
they? But they back up lies too! The "lie"
that a mothers choice is more important
than an fetus.
Your lie was that a 8 week fetus is "much"
bigger than a pea, when in fact it is not.
Therefore, you lied and are a liar.
But let's play the dictionary game, since
you want to so badly. I noticed you took
the 5th or 8th definition for some of your
words. So let's go:
A baby is also:
A young or newly born animal. - Gee, we
kill those all the time. Those poor
babies!!
The youngest member of a family or group.
- The youngest member could be a 30 year
old child molester or rapist. Guess he
shouldn't receive the death penalty (where
available) nor should he be imprisoned,
since he certainly does fit the definition
of a "baby" and we definitely don't
imprison those!
A young woman or person with whom one is
having a romantic relationship - Those
could be mass murderers as well.
All from the aforementioned dictionary,
and I haven't even got started on all
those ones you went to. And I'm not going
to bother wasting my time looking up all
the definitions of "child". If you're
going to take the dictionary definition of
every word, you should start applying your
ridiculous beliefs to every definition.
I'd go as far as to say Hitler was a
childish person. He still deserved the
death penalty (if he wasn't so childish as
to off himself beforehand).
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It's not a lie. The woman's choice IS more
important than the life of the undeveloped
human. It COULD be this, it COULD be that.
She IS a woman NOW. That's what's
important to me.
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Posted: 02-28-08 00:25am
I KNOW. I'm making a point, and I'm
PRO-CHOICE if you didn't read the rest of
my post. I was playing along with his
little delusions and making a point that
he couldn't refute because he'd agree with
it.
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Sorry; I was tired last night. Take my
post to be agreeing with you as well, as
an addendum heh.
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Posted: 02-28-08 10:20am
Haha, that's fine. I figured you couldn't
actually be upset if you would of realized
it was sarcasm
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yodavater
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Posted: 02-29-08 15:59pm
Reptar
wrote:
Your lie was that a 8 week fetus is "much"
bigger than a pea, when in fact it is not.
"Much" is a relative word, isn't it?
Medical websites generally list the size
of a Carnegie Stage 19 human fetus at
between 13 and 20 mm, which is around
3/8th of an inch. So there's a lot of
variation.
But my question to you is: so what? What
has size to do with morality?
Reptar
wrote:
I noticed you took the 5th or 8th
definition for some of your
words.
Yes, that's right. Again, so what? Do
you disqualify definitions after a certain
number, or what?
Reptar
wrote:
If you're going to take the dictionary
definition of every word, you should start
applying your ridiculous beliefs to every
definition.
You seem a bit confused. Nowhere did I
allege that a human fetus fit every single
definition of "baby", indeed there would
be something wrong with a dictionary that
published multiple definitions that all
said the same thing.
No, my contention is simply that it's
incorrect to say that a fetus "is not a
baby". And I believe I have proven that
statement incorrect by posting at least a
single definition from various
dictionaries that validate that usage.
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yodavater
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Posted: 02-29-08 16:01pm
Reptar
wrote:
I was playing along with his little
delusions and making a point that he
couldn't refute because he'd agree with
it.
Wow.... that's novel... I never had anyone
"play along with my little delusions"
before. Weird stuff....
But yes, it's true.. I do consider the
life of an innocent baby more important
that the right of it's mother to
electively kill it. And I probably always
will.
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Posted: 02-29-08 19:03pm
yodavater
wrote:
But my question to you is: so what? What
has size to do with morality?
Exactly. When you have an abortion you are
going to kill someone's life. The
development stage doesn't change the fact
that you are taking away that life.
Yoda we could argue with pro-choicers all
life. To them the life of the fetus is
only valuable if they want it. If they
don't then the little bean life means
nothing and yeah it could be killed why
not. But if it is wanted the little bean
life means everything and god forbid
somebody wants to kill it. So it's all
about the "wanting" or "not wanting".
Pretty sad. This gal who was writting in
other board asking if abortion would be a
good idea for her. Should I let it live or
not? How sad it is that humans just
question whether to let live or die their
own baby's life.
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yodavater
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Posted: 03-02-08 16:26pm
nightangel73
wrote:
Yoda we could argue with pro-choicers all
life. To them the life of the fetus is
only valuable if they want it. If they
don't then the little bean life means
nothing and yeah it could be killed why
not. But if it is wanted the little bean
life means everything and god forbid
somebody wants to kill it. So it's all
about the "wanting" or "not wanting".
Really, it's all about "what I want"....
as in "it's my property".
And that's even sadder.
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Posted: 03-02-08 16:49pm
Versus "what you want", of course, which
is even worse.
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yodavater
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Posted: 03-02-08 17:01pm
Birch
wrote:
Versus "what you want", of
course, which is even
worse.
Except that..... "what I want" does not
involve the taking of an innocent life.
But I'm almost sure that makes no
difference to you, does it?
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Posted: 03-02-08 17:06pm
yodavater
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
Versus "what you want", of
course, which is even
worse.
Except that..... "what I want" does not
involve the taking of an innocent life.
But I'm almost sure that makes no
difference to you, does
it?
Yes, what you want makes no difference to
me.
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yodavater
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Posted: 03-02-08 17:12pm
Birch
wrote:
yodavater
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
Versus "what you want", of
course, which is even
worse.
Except that..... "what I want" does not
involve the taking of an innocent life.
But I'm almost sure that makes no
difference to you, does
it?
Yes, what you want makes no difference to
me.
Nor the slight detail of the taking of
innocent life, I presume?
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Posted: 03-02-08 17:16pm
yodavater
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
yodavater
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
Versus "what you want", of
course, which is even
worse.
Except that..... "what I want" does not
involve the taking of an innocent life.
But I'm almost sure that makes no
difference to you, does
it?
Yes, what you want makes no difference to
me.
Nor the slight detail of the taking of
innocent life, I
presume?
Don't set up one of your little strawman
games with me, buckaroo. You'll be down
faster than a billygoat on Mt. Kilimanjaro
in an ice storm.
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yodavater
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Posted: 03-03-08 08:31am
Birch
wrote:
Don't set up one of your little strawman
games with me,
Is that your way of avoiding a question,
without answering it?
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Posted: 03-03-08 12:02pm
yodavater
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
Don't set up one of your little strawman
games with me,
Is that your way of avoiding a question,
without answering
it?
It's my way of keeping my head out of the
the exhaustive, conservative-style tactics
which you employ.
I have enough balls to answer your
question, but I'm not interested.
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yodavater
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Posted: 03-08-08 09:53am
Birch
wrote:
It's my way of keeping my head out of the
the exhaustive, conservative-style tactics
which you employ.
"Conservative-style tactics"? What an
interesting phrase... since I'm neither
conservative nor a tactician. But I
suppose it will suffice as a diversion
from the subject.
Birch
wrote:
I have enough balls to answer your
question, but I'm not
interested.
And yet....... interested enough to
comment on your "balls".
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Posted: 03-08-08 11:25am
There are nice photography forums on the
internet. Maybe you should check those
out?
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yodavater
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Posted: 03-10-08 09:29am
Birch
wrote:
There are nice photography
forums on the internet. Maybe you should
check those
out?
Been there, done that. Nice photos, but I
just can't speak out for unborn babies
there.
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yodavater
wrote:
Birch
wrote:
There are nice photography
forums on the internet. Maybe you should
check those
out?
Been there, done that. Nice photos, but I
just can't speak out for unborn babies
there.
That would be the point. You're not doing
a good job of it here, so why bother?
