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Money Issues as Teen Parents Posted: 02-08-08 13:21pm
If you're pregnant or planning on becoming
pregnant, how do you plan on supporting a
baby financially as a teenager?
If you already had a baby as a teenager,
how do you/did you support him/her
financially being so young?
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Altari
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Posted: 02-08-08 19:24pm
My "teen baby" is 5 years old
now...so....
We had a lot of help from my parents. We
didn't have to pay "rent' - although we
were expected to contribute some of our
income to the household. We saved a lot,
and kept our debt as low as possible. Baby
stuffs we stocked up on when we have extra
money so we could skip going to the store
when we were short.
We're on our own now, but don't have to
worry about money. Just the usual family
financial issues.
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 02-08-08 22:07pm
sick_mama17,
This thread asks a great question. Maybe
if you posted the exact same question on
the pregnancy chat forum and the parenting
chat forum, more posters would reply.
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young Girl
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Posted: 02-09-08 00:09am
well. lets see
i dont have to pay rent yet which is a
HUGE money saver. (haha but i get to get
slapped in the face with it in the next
few months LOL)
kristen is set. shes got a saveings
started already and everything. honestly
if i wouldnt had inherited that money i
wouldnt have had her.
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lats
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Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 64 Location: New Zealand
Posted: 02-09-08 02:18am
My boyfriend (babys father) was able to
supports us and we have managed (so far)
to raise our son without too much help
from anyone, of course our parents gave
gifts and do grandparent things but that
had nothing to do with our age, if we were
30 they still would have done that sort of
stuff.
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 02-09-08 11:28am
lats, I take it your bf wasn't a teen
still in school, right?
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lats
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Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 64 Location: New Zealand
Posted: 02-10-08 19:48pm
i just tried posting but my computer froze
and i dont think it worked so il just
repost,
he was 18 but no he wasnt at school. He
was working full-time on minimum wage at
the time i got pregnant untill our baby
was born, but we made it and luckily hes
had a couple of payrises since then.
Also i should add that in my country the
government helps out a lot of families
here, eg a large percentage of families
receive a "top up" of their income so that
they can manage a bit better, which we
also receive. But this is for pretty much
the whole country as the income cut-off
point is quite high
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 02-11-08 20:45pm
lats,
that's a good deal from your gov't. What
is the top up plan called?
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lats
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Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 64 Location: New Zealand
Posted: 02-12-08 02:02am
family assistance - if you would like to
read into it the website is http://www.workingforfami
lies.govt.nz/ . As you can see it is
quite common to receive this here, the
minimum wage here is around 50,000 i
think, but if you looked at the average
wage of smaller cities and towns i dont
think the averages would be quite so high
as a lot of the high wage earners are from
the bigger cities.
here is a bit of info from the site:
Working for Families
Working for Families is a package designed
to help make it easier to work and raise a
family. It pays extra money to many
thousands of New Zealand families. Greater
financial support is available for:
almost all families with children, earning
under $70,000 a year
many families with children, earning up to
$100,000 a year
some larger families earning more.
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jessamyn
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Posted: 02-12-08 11:59am
I wouldnt have had my son at 18 if i knew
i had to depend on welfare to raise him.
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 02-12-08 12:05pm
Jess, I wish I knew where and when and why
that mindset started to fade away.
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jessamyn
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Posted: 02-12-08 12:21pm
seriously... when i got pregnant with my
son... paul and i were a team both working
2 incomes... after we split up... he left
me with NOTHINg and basically robbed me
clean... I started over with a backpack of
clothes and $27 bucks in my pocket... no
car, no job, nothing... I BUSTED my assss
worked 3 jobs... and provided for my son
and myself.
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 02-12-08 13:16pm
Wow. That's all I can say.
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sick_mama17
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Posted: 02-12-08 14:07pm
I dont think its right to judge anyone on
welfare or recieving any government help
such as wic and food stamps. That help is
there for people who need it. I think its
okay aslong as you don't plan on staying
on it forever, just until you can get back
on your feet financially however long that
takes. We are lucky in England, theres a
lot of financial help available.
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 02-12-08 14:33pm
Expressing an opinion in general is not
judging specific people, in my view
anyway.
Getting help when someone needs it until
they get "back on their fee" is all well
and good, and it implies that the person
started out "on their feet." My objection
is when people who have not yet ever been
"on their feet" plan to get pregnant and
have a child while they are "off their
feet".
That means that getting assistance was
part of the planning to have the child in
the first place. I think that is very,
very wrong.
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jessamyn
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Posted: 02-12-08 15:43pm
sick_mama17
wrote:
I dont think its right to
judge anyone on welfare or recieving any
government help such as wic and food
stamps. That help is there for people who
need it. I think its okay aslong as you
don't plan on staying on it forever, just
until you can get back on your feet
financially however long that takes. We
are lucky in England, theres a lot of
financial help
available.
not only do i actually agree with
futureshock on this one, i was also not
judging.. simply basing my opinion... it
was massive hardwork and i never slept but
i was capable of doing it without
assistance... i personally know too many
woman who wouldnt have even tried... and
simply would have just welfared up and
that is my opinion and point.
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Ingi
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Posted: 02-12-08 15:55pm
futureshock
wrote:
Expressing an opinion in
general is not judging specific people, in
my view anyway.
Getting help when someone needs it until
they get "back on their fee" is all well
and good, and it implies that the person
started out "on their feet." My objection
is when people who have not yet ever been
"on their feet" plan to get pregnant and
have a child while they are "off their
feet".
That means that getting assistance was
part of the planning to have the child in
the first place. I think that is very,
very wrong.
Not all the children are planned.
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 02-12-08 16:24pm
Ingi
wrote:
futureshock
wrote:
Expressing an opinion in
general is not judging specific people, in
my view anyway.
Getting help when someone needs it until
they get "back on their fee" is all well
and good, and it implies that the person
started out "on their feet." My objection
is when people who have not yet ever been
"on their feet" plan to get pregnant and
have a child while they are "off their
feet".
That means that getting assistance was
part of the planning to have the child in
the first place. I think that is very,
very wrong.
Not all the children are
planned.
ok?
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Ingi
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Posted: 02-12-08 16:30pm
futureshock
wrote:
Ingi
wrote:
futureshock
wrote:
Expressing an opinion in
general is not judging specific people, in
my view anyway.
Getting help when someone needs it until
they get "back on their fee" is all well
and good, and it implies that the person
started out "on their feet." My objection
is when people who have not yet ever been
"on their feet" plan to get pregnant and
have a child while they are "off their
feet".
That means that getting assistance was
part of the planning to have the child in
the first place. I think that is
very, very wrong.
Not all the children are
planned.
ok?
Sorry, FS, sometimes it appears as if you
take the contrary road on all these girls
posts. You have got to admit that you have
never been in this situation yourself. You
were much older when your daughter was
born, you even had wonderful glowing
things to say about how helpful your
husband was in assisting you after your
daughter was born! And that is GREAT for
you.
These girls don't have the same options
you had. They made different life choices
- which being human, we have the right to
make - and their lives are so different
from yours that neither can you comprehend
what they are going through or they you.
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 02-12-08 16:39pm
lats
wrote:
family assistance - if you
would like to read into it the website is
http://www.workingforfami
lies.govt.nz/ . As you can see it is
quite common to receive this here, the
minimum wage here is around 50,000 i
think, but if you looked at the average
wage of smaller cities and towns i dont
think the averages would be quite so high
as a lot of the high wage earners are from
the bigger cities.
here is a bit of info from the site:
Working for Families
Working for Families is a package designed
to help make it easier to work and raise a
family. It pays extra money to many
thousands of New Zealand families. Greater
financial support is available for:
almost all families with children, earning
under $70,000 a year
many families with children, earning up to
$100,000 a year
some larger families earning
more.
Thanks for the info on your program. It
sounds awesome. It is different from what
we refer to as welfare here in the
states.
One difference is that it is specifically
for working people(from your link):
In-work tax credit
In-work tax credit, pays up to $60 a week
for families with three children, and up
to an extra $15 a week for each additional
child.
To get
in-work tax credit couples must normally
work 30 hours a week between them, and
sole parents must normally work 20 hours a
week. You can also get in-work tax
credit if you’re self-employed, but
it’s not available to families receiving
an income-tested benefit or student
allowance.
We have something a little bit like it in
our tax system, earned income tax refunds
and other tax refunds specifically for
families with children.
Another difference is, as a society
citizens of New Zealand decided they
wanted to help families work and support
their children, so they created the
program of which you speak, and others.
Here in the U.S., we didn't do this. We
created welfare for families that were
working and supporting themselves but
through some misfortune, had fallen on
hard times. Originally welfare was only
available to widows, just to show you how
this program was intended to be used.
The reason there is controversy
surrounding welfare and other programs
like WIC and HUD, etc., etc., is because
people have begun using these tax payer
funded relief systems as their primary
income, and NOT for supporting themselves
during an unexpected misfortune. That is
to say, people with no means to support
themselves to begin with, with no jobs,
have children and immediately go on these
welfare programs, at the expense of
others.
So, while some couples are working and
saving money in the hopes of starting a
family when they can afford it, their tax
dollars are going to, among other things,
paying for people who never worked, never
saved, and never waited to start a family.
People who just decided they wanted
children right now, and then went ahead
and had them.
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