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Verizon-y
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A Mother's Empathy
Posted: 02-09-08 00:02am
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Some mothers experience empathy with their
children, but sadly, not all. Some
mothers (and fathers) can just let their
infants scream in pain, not
understanding, feeling, or empathizing
with that child.
You either have this or you don't. If
your child is in pain, and you don't turn
into a lioness to get them relief,
whatever it takes, you do not have empathy
for your child.
Do you know parents like this? Have you
ever wanted to say something to them?
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O0o0h_baby
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Posted: 02-09-08 00:14am
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Thankfully no. I can say with no problem
My children come before anyone or anything
in this world. I can't understand any
mother who doesn't feel the same way.
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CaNdItAs CrAzY LaNd
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Posted: 02-09-08 01:11am
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i was just in that situation wed night
thru thur afternoon with my destiny she
had a bulging eardrum and wouldnt stop
crying/screaming and i couldnt do anything
to make her pain go away its
heartbreaking. my kids are my weverything
my air my life.
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newmommy07
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Posted: 02-09-08 03:30am
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Sounds like my b/f :/ He only has empathy
for our son when its convienant for him.
>< I don't understand ppl like that
and it hurts to see anyone with a child
and not do w/e it takes to make them feel
better.
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Katrinadoodle
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Posted: 02-09-08 03:32am
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I cried so hard when Jay got her shots
I can ignore her hungry cry and colicky
cry, those don't upset me. But when she's
in pain, man oh man ;-;
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 02-09-08 08:22am
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Thanks for the responses, ladies. Seeing
parents who don't do everything in their
power to ease their children's suffering
breaks my heart.
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Mommy35
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Posted: 02-09-08 09:01am
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Working with children and teens that have
been removed from their family's homes
because of abuse, I have seen and heard of
some terrible things that people have done
to their children. It really sickens me.
Then the family members come to visit and
we are expected to be sweet and
understanding of their loss. Blah
Every new parent goes through a learning
curve, but it amazes me how some people
simply can't see the difference between
right and wrong.
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fairytale007
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Posted: 02-09-08 10:46am
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Thomas's mom is exactly like that. She
babysits Dante's cousin whose 6 months
old, and he spends the whole day either in
his car seat or in a swing. She will only
hold him when he's being chaned or fed.
Even then sh'll tell him to shut up when
he starts to cry. She can stand there and
llisten to him cry for hours. Its really
sickening.Thomas and I have said stuff to
her about it, but she says she knows how
to raise kids cuz she had five boys.

If she was such a great parent, all her
kids wouldnt have dropped out of hs.
She is not allowed to watch Dante unless
Thomas is there.
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kaiteo
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Posted: 02-09-08 10:49am
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"Self soothing" and letting their kids
"cry it out" is complete bull. If a baby
cries, they do it for a reason. I think
it's child neglect.
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CaNdItAs CrAzY LaNd
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 02-09-08 12:31pm
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| Katrinadoodle
wrote: | | I can ignore her hungry cry
and colicky cry, those don't upset me. But
when she's in pain, man oh man
;-; |
Err, what? Please tell me I'm reading this
wrong. You don't ignore her when she cries
for food, right? 
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kaiteo
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Posted: 02-09-08 12:37pm
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| AyaMiyaki
wrote: | | Katrinadoodle
wrote: | | I can ignore her hungry cry
and colicky cry, those don't upset me. But
when she's in pain, man oh man
;-; |
Err, what? Please tell me I'm reading this
wrong. You don't ignore her when she cries
for food, right?  |
I was thinking the same. I think she just
meant it's not as bad as when she's in
pain.
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Katrinadoodle
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Posted: 02-09-08 15:00pm
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LOL no! I meant when she's crying for food
or when she's up all nigh I can block it
out and not get upset. I don't sit there
and let her cry, I get her bottle!
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 02-09-08 17:17pm
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Some people can just sit there and not fix
the problem. They make excuses. It
sickens me.
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Ayrshire-lass
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Posted: 02-10-08 12:46pm
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it depends if its something silly like
falling over lol. if so they will run to
you all the time. they use it against you
grrrr lol
but if they actually have seriously hurt
themselvs or arnt well. mummys ere to help

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Eyes Wide Shut
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Posted: 02-10-08 14:39pm
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wow...this post seems like it's indirectly
directed at someone in specific...
I KNOW ther are people out there that
neglect their children. But there are also
people out there that don't have the means
to get what they need.
i.e, a car, money, husband/boyfriend,
etc...
Sarah
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Lilly Ivy
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Posted: 02-10-08 17:34pm
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I don't like judging people's parenting,
but there are some people that have NO
REASON being a parent.
My friend (Sam) is being nice enough to
let her brother and his girlfriend (Jen)
stay at her house. She has a 10mo old and
Jen has a 4mo old. The 4mo old is either
in her swing or carseat, and EVERY time
she cries, Jen just pops a bottle in her
mouth and leaves it there. She'll eat
almost 16oz each time, then she won't even
change her when her diaper is wet, so it
leaks all over her clothes and carseat,
and of course those never get clean. She
was there for 2 weeks and that baby never
ONCE got a bath. Sam offered a million
times to get the baby bath out, but Jen
refused saying 'oh, she'll be fine'. GRR.
Plus, Jen gets food stamps, WIC, AND cash
assistance, but eats all of Sam's food AND
uses SAM'S baby formula AND cereal. She
puts it in her bottle so she sleeps better
at night.
I know there's worse, but I just can't
stand when people NEVER hold their baby,
not even to feed them. How can someone
even do that? I don't understand some
people.
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Posted: 02-13-08 11:46am
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I admit I am not as vigilant with my
second child. The other day she fell off
her tike head first and I didn't sprint
out to get her, but I did hurry. I just
worry a lot less now. I think it's
probably because some bad owies have
really happened ie skull fractures,
concussions, etc and I dealt with those
just fine so I nnknow frantic worry is
unnecessary to help them with whatever
owie they are having at the time. I still
worry, just not obsessively. One thing
Hannah has taught me is that you are not
in charge of anything when you have kids,
no matter how much you think you are!
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Verizon-y
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Posted: 02-17-08 19:42pm
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I see your overall point, but falling head
first? I'd rush out there at the speed of
light.
Anyway, that's a little different than
what I am trying to get at. By empathy I
mean feeling your child's pain. Not
exactly or literally, but more than just
sympathizing.
If a child is sick or hurt, they are
suffering. An empathetic mother will know
that her child is suffering, and do
anything in her power to ease the pain.
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prettygirlygirl
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Posted: 02-28-08 23:50pm
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| kaiteo
wrote: | | "Self soothing" and letting
their kids "cry it out" is complete bull.
If a baby cries, they do it for a reason.
I think it's child
neglect. |
Infants do, older children not so much.
Calling "cry it out" neglectful "caca" is
extremely closed minded and just plain
ignorant. Different kids need different
things. My daughter needed to be sleep
trained. She was a nightmare, I was
rapidly losing my sanity and we were both
exhausted. You better beleive I let her
cry it out when I eventually decided to
sleep train her (besides, when I went in
to comfort her it just pissed her off more
increased the hysterics unless I brought
her to bed with me). It took three nights
until she was sleeping through the night,
she was a happier baby because of it (she
needed sleep, she just didn't want it and
didn't know how. That was her reason for
screaming) and I was a far happier and
better mom once we got it out of the way.
She was 15 months.
Not much older than that she'd scream like
I was killing her if I didn't feed her
french fries, let her play with electrical
outlets or allow her to climb on the
counters while I was boiling water and
chopping veggies. In those cases you
better beleive I let her scream bloody
homicide rather than catering to her.
Now that she's a toddler she knows what
she wants and cries if she can't have it.
She can't have everything she wants, she's
the child and I'm the parent. I decide
what's good for her and she can figure out
how to deal with it. End of story.
For the record, I know people who do cater
to every scream (excluding the ones that
occur when kids are kids are pissed you're
stopping them from seriously injuring
themselves) and most are incredibly
stressed and have over-indulged spoilt
children. I don't. I prefer my way.
Every parent is entitled to their own
style whether it's total attachment
parenting (a great choice for many, but
not for me and my daughter) and some
prefer to let their child sort things out
for themselves (more my style). Parents
that choose the former are not incredible
super parents and those who chose the
later are not negligent morons. They're
all just doing what's best for themselves
and their kids. There's no harm in that.
To answer the OP. I absolutely cannot sit
and listen to my child cry in pain. It
breaks my heart to see her sick or hurting
(the first few times each happened I cried
far more than she did).
I do try very hard to wait for her
reaction before I pop into panic mode, but
she's pretty good about not crying unless
she's really hurt herself. I've got a bit
of a trick for when she does something
that looks like it hurts, when I see the
bottom lip wobble I yell "quick, stand
up!" if she does it and continues to cry a
little (usually she's forgotten about the
small pains by the time she's up, it's a
great distraction) I know she's just
scared herself. If she can't get up or is
sobbing I have to try hard not to cry too
while I figure out what to do!
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