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Posted: 02-29-08 00:02am

prettygirlygirl wrote:


Every parent is entitled to their own style whether it's total attachment parenting (a great choice for many, but not for me and my daughter) and some prefer to let their child sort things out for themselves (more my style). Parents that choose the former are not incredible super parents and those who chose the later are not negligent morons. They're all just doing what's best for themselves and their kids. There's no harm in that.



I never heard of total attachment parenting. What is it and how does it compare to letting their child sort things out for themselves?
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Posted: 02-29-08 00:16am

Attachment parenting (as far as I understand it, if someone who practices this parenting can correct me, please do so!) is basically child led parenting. Those who practice attachment parenting generally let their children self wean from everything (breastfeeding, cosleeping, etc no matter how long it takes), they wear their babies at all times (slings), don't let them ever cry without attempting to soothe and always reason with them instead of punishment.

That is a really poor explaination, but www.mothering.com is a great Attachment parenting forum and a quick browse will give you a much better overview than I can.

There's also a lot of anti-vax, anti-medical-intervention and unassisted childbirth there but I'm not sure if that's because it's part of AP or because they're just beleifs commonly held by attachment parenters.

When I say "letting kids sort things out for themselves" I mean teaching them independence early. For example, sleep training (crying it out), letting them safely sort out feelings of anger or frustration and generally teaching them some autonomy and self soothing. When I say "let them sort it out themselves" I basically mean the opposite of AP.
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Posted: 02-29-08 00:33am

Sorry to double post, but I just wanted to add a little something for clarity.

"Let them sort it out for themselves" was probably a poor choice of words on my part and I don't want to come across as a neglectful inattentive parent. I try to use more "common sense" based parenting. I take each situation as it presents and decide how to best handle it considering my daughters personality and what I need her to do/act. Whether it's sleep training, cry it out, whatever. I don't like to induldge my daughters every whim (I think it's damaging) but I certainly don't ignore her either. I do what I can to understand her wants, but I absolutely can't trust her to know what she needs (she's three! I'm the parent!) so that's where I need to occasionally step in and make sure her real needs are met regardless of what she wants at the time.

So, to be a little more articulate:

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I never heard of total attachment parenting. What is it and how does it compare to letting their child sort things out for themselves?


Child led parenting v.s. parent led parenting.
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Posted: 02-29-08 10:08am

Thanks for those explanations. I think I am a little of both, but lean more to the side of attachment/child led parenting than the other.

As far as "crying it out", I think people who object to it, as I do, are mainly talking about newborns and infants.
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Posted: 03-04-08 11:57am

You shouldn't let infants "cry it out". We started using this when our girls were about 8-9 months old, when they start to discover that crying == attention. If older babies and toddlers are not allowed to "cry it out" they will become overly attached to their mother and won't develop the basic self-image that will let them operate as an independent person.

Infants and newborns DO sometimes cry for no apparent reason. My oldest daughter used to just cry and cry and cry - she was fed, changed, healthy, warm, everything a baby could want. But she just wanted a little bit more, all the time. It is healthy to foster this in infants/newborns to help them develop their ability to form emotional bonds (usually "no cause" crying is a result of loneliness or a need for affection). But older babies/toddlers? They are capable of developing a sense of "self" and letting them "cry it out" fosters that. It helps show them that mommy/daddy is there when they are needed, but that the child needs to also depend on themselves when they just want to be "entertained".
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Posted: 03-05-08 01:21am

Altari wrote:
It is healthy to foster this in infants/newborns to help them develop their ability to form emotional bonds (usually "no cause" crying is a result of loneliness or a need for affection).


I still consider that crying for a reason. Smile I think letting a newborn cry it out is child abuse/neglect.
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Posted: 03-05-08 01:49am

If it's consistent, yes.

As my grandmother told me when I was losing my mind with my first daughter, the world isn't over and you haven't failed as a mother if you just have to walk away for a few minutes.

For a newborn, letting them "cry it out" is absurd - with no sense of self, how are they going to learn to keep themselves entertained? Since newborns have no frame of external reference, without a person around them, the entire world has just disappeared in their eyes. But older babies who grasp object permanence need that detachment.
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Posted: 06-29-08 11:32am

Altari wrote:
If it's consistent, yes.

As my grandmother told me when I was losing my mind with my first daughter, the world isn't over and you haven't failed as a mother if you just have to walk away for a few minutes.

For a newborn, letting them "cry it out" is absurd - with no sense of self, how are they going to learn to keep themselves entertained? Since newborns have no frame of external reference, without a person around them, the entire world has just disappeared in their eyes. But older babies who grasp object permanence need that detachment.


Well said. Smile
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