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Posted: 02-09-08 13:41pm

I know this isn't exactly about pregnancy, but you guys are always the best at giving advice.

This is SUPER long, so I'm really sorry in advance.

So, Mike and I have been living with a friend from college for the past 7 1/2 months. All three of us moved into the apartment together. We are in the lease for a year (so there are 4 1/2 months left till we officially move out). Things started out great, but I just found out she is majorly backstabbing us.

Her and I used to be good friends. She comes home from work every day, talks to us about her day, and we sometimes go shopping together and hang out. Things seemed normal, but all of a sudden she started writing all the time on her myspace in bulletins, surveys, etc, how badly she desperately wants to move out. In one of the bulletins, out of nowhere she writes "Mike and Sarah hate me anyways"

I wrote to her and told her basically "what are you talking about? where did you get that idea from becuase we don't hate you at all". She said we never hang out so she feels unloved. I remind her how we invite her to movies all the time but she always declines, I go shopping with her tons, we make meals with her, we drink with her, we invite her to concerts, and tons of other stuff. She basically ignores what I said and said that we hide in our room at night. We do lay in our room at night, yes, but that is only because Mike gets home from work at 8:30 and I'm at school all day so its nice to lay down and wind down a little. I understand though how it can be offputting, so I vowed to try to change that.

Since then, I have left our bedroom door open every night. We invite her into our bedroom to watch tv shows and such like American Idol. Long story short, a friend IM's me and tells me she is writing about us in her livejournal saying we hate her again.

That aside, in the 7 1/2 months here, she has taken out the trash literally twice. When the trash can fills up, she won't even change the liner. She just places her trash ontop of the counter next to the trash can and lets the trash pile up on the counter until I change it and take care of it.

She won't do her dishes. She leaves them in the sink, and then when there are no bowls/forks/whatever left to eat with, she'll just wash ONE so she can use that one and put it back in the sink dirty when she is done.

For her birthday, we got her a card and a present. For our birthday, we didn't even get a "happy birthday". When it was Christmas, she was telling us and showing us presents she bought for like 15 people, and again, we didn't even get a card. I don't care that we didn't get presents or recipricated; giving is not about that. What I care about is we didn't even get the two words "happy birthday" when she KNEW when our birthdays were. It's like she didn't care at all, and that hurt.

She told me she thinks she makes a bigger effort to be friends than I do. I'm the one inviting her everywhere. She didn't ONCE invite me ANYWHERE since we moved here. I brought that up to her, and she says "no I invited you grocery shopping once". I was like "yeah...and I WENT WITH YOU". and she was like "yeah, but you know, I didn't think you really wanted to go. You seemed annoyed like you didn't want to be there.". I told her if I didnt want to go, I just wouldn't have gone, but she doesn't listen to that either. She said she is tired of trying, but can't give me any examples of how she tries. If anything, I think she tries to push away, yet she complains to everyone else about it all over her journal and myspace and sometimes I hear her on the phone talking about it to people. What the heck. I'm the one that constantly tries over and over to invite her places, and half the time SHE declines.

I feel like I try and try, and at least I am giving it a shot, right? I figured things are okay, at leaset she knows I'm trying.

However, she keeps on writing how she wishes and wishes and wishes she could move out. Mike and I respond to one of her bulletins about it (theres literally one at least every day), and we tell her in a super nice way "Hey, we are tired of the apartment too. We don't get any light through the windows and having no natural light is dragging us down. If you are really unhappy in the apartment and would like to move, we would be okay for it too and start looking for a new apartment". She is going to move in with her b/f when our lease is up here, so we figured it'd make her happy and she'd be glad to get out.

She writes back in a super nice manor as well saying "oh, you know, I understand how having no light is killing you. I hate it too. However, I want to stick it out till the lease is up so I can save up money with my job here for the big move".

We figured that was that, and no big deal. We'll just wait a few months.

but the other day, a mutual friend instant messaged me and told me she was writing about me in her livejournal. She said...

"Roommates still suck, apartments still suck, job still sucks, money still sucks. You get the picture.
Sarah and Mike felt the need to take time out of their sickenly useless lives to tell me I could move out early if I wanted to. I was steamed about that for a day or so. I mean, come on; how can you tell me you would be happier if the apartment was "set up differently"? Pretty sure that doesn't mean the furniture, broseph."

So woahhhh. Hold up! We never told her we wanted to move the furnature! We just said that having no natural light coming into the apartment is hard on us!

Why do we suck when we've been nothing but nice?

What got me the most is her saying we have "sickeningly useless lives". I am taking 21 credits this semester at school, working towards a fulfilling career. I am also working a great job as a nanny bringing in good money. Mike is working full time, and he's going into grad school to further his career. We both have a healthy, happy, loving relationship with lots of friends who visit us most weekends. She works 3 days a week in a retail store, isn't going to college, and is in a long distance relationship. I don't understand how she thinks our lives are useless when we are working towards so many great things and still manage to maintain healthy relationships and friendships.

I overheard her on the phone the other day saying that we talk about her behind her back to other people and are back stabbing, but we never have. I'm wondering if maybe she is just saying this stuff to people for attention? I don't understand what is going on.

Anyways, we are half looking at new places on the internet to move into before our lease is up. We can break the lease and not have to pay as long as our realtor finds someone else to rent the apartment, which should be super easy. Her name isn't on the lease at all; only Mike's and mine is, so that wouldn't be a problem.

The only thing is, I still feel extreme guilt wanting to move out. Should I feel guilty about wanting to leave? Is it bad and/or backstabing since she does have places to go? (back to her family, with her friends, 4 months early with her boyfriend). I feel like I've tried so hard but nothing is enough.

What is the right thing to do? Should I just stick it out for these four months knowing that she talks behind my back about me and hates me when I thought things were okay and we were friends?

I don't want to confront her about the livejournal entry, just because I don't want the mutual friend who told me to get in trouble.

I'm just lost and need major advice.
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Posted: 02-09-08 17:18pm

Aw hun, I'm sorry, this girl is really giving you a run for your money!

From the sound of things, you couldn't be doing anything else to make her more comfortable. You are bending over backward for her to be more comfortable then you two are! And that isn't fair.

Sure, sometimes having roommates sucks. You have to constantly think of someone else, that you normally can't be completely honest with (like you can with a so) But it really sounds like you are trying to make things as welcoming as possible. I'm not sure what more she could possibly want? I mean, you include her, you clean up after her, what else is there?

I'm sorry that I don't have any advice. But, I really feel that you are handling the situation much better then I would. You continue to be much nicer then most people in that situation. Maybe you can just tell her that you are at a loss for making her any more comfortable/welcomed, and ask her for SPECIFIC examples of what she wants/needs. I doubt she can come up with anything.

Maybe she is going through a depression. I know I tend to lash out at my "home" when I get depressed, because somehow I can blame that for everything else that is wrong, even thought that isn't the case.
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Posted: 02-09-08 17:48pm

Thanks. Yeah, I'm trying my best. I'm not sure what else to do. It just kind of sucks and hurts that I feel like I try to do so much for her and then she calls me a health forum and makes up lies about me and says I'm a waste of life. I don't understand at all where it came from. :/

Speaking of giving me a run for my money, that happened this month literally. Rent is 733 a person, and she gave me 400 of it and said that the other 333 will be over 8 days late. I let it slide and covered for her (luckily I have enough money in my account to do that..), and she gave it to me 8 days late. but what bothers me about it is the same day, she made a bulletin about how she's saved 300 dollars for moving in july, so I know for a fact she had 300 dollars in her room that she wouldn't give me when she's 333 dollars short on rent. I don't understand why she didn't give me the 300 to pay it on time, and then replenish it with the 333 when she got it a week or two later.

Hopefully things will work out, but I don't even know how to really act around her. How do I act around someone who pretends like she's my best friend, but behind my back she says so many mean things about me?

and how do I get her to clean up after herself? I've confronted her about it before, and she did the dishes for a week or so and that was that. I just don't know how much longer I can take it.
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Posted: 02-09-08 18:12pm

So, she doesn't voice these concerns to your face? She just pretends everything is fine? Wow, what a piece of work!

I think she is doing it for attention. If she was truely that upset being there, it would be apparent when she is home. She wouldn't walk around like nothing is wrong. I think you should cut your ties. Tell her that you want to save your friendship and you are afraid that if you continue to live together (since it is clearly causing her such distress being there. Rolling Eyes ) And then try to find something that would be better for both you and your boyfriend. You have to do what is best for you, and you can't make everyone happy all the time. You have done you best to be good to her, and now you need to do what is best for you.

I don't really have any advice for making her clean, I'm still trying to figure out how to make Mike clean up after himself and it's been years! Lol. How does your b/f feel about all this?
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Posted: 02-09-08 18:27pm

Yeah, every day she comes home from work all smiles, talks about her day, hangs out watching tv, and life seems completely normal. It's really two faced.

Mike thinks its all ridiculous and thinks that we should leave, but like me, he's half afraid of leaving just because we are both typically nice people that want the best for everyone (even if they dont seem like they deserve it). If she wants to stay here, we feel bad looking around to get a new place. However, at this point I almost feel like it might be necessary. The more the days go by, the worse it seems to get, and the more I hear from others (or overhear on the phone from her) about how terrible she thinks we are.

I think I'm also kind of struggling with it because I've never really lost a friend before. I have a pretty easy going personality and get along with most people, and if I'm not meshing well with someone we usually just talk about it and work things out. I've never really had a friend go behind my back like this to say all these things and not take responsibility and screw me over for money, etcetc. I guess in that respect I'm lucky I've never experience it before. It definitely doesn't make it any easier though.

Right now Mike and I are still kind of stuck in between and talking about if we want to leave her or not. We are casually looking online at apartments, and are thinking about looking at a few in person, but we aren't moving out for sure. I'm just afraid I'll feel guilty if we leave her. but should I feel guilty if she treats me this bad and says she wants to move out to everyone every day anyways? (she always says she wants to leave to everyone, but then when we bring it up she gets super mad we would even offer it...so strange).

I guess I just wish she would sort out what she wants so we know what to do. or at least be up front with me about how she feels. If she doesn't like me then fine, not everyone in this world has to like me thats no problem...just don't go behind my back and then pretend like you're my best friend to my face, you know?
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Posted: 02-09-08 20:31pm

if shes not on the lease id tell her to pack her stuff n go since obviously living with you is SSSSoOOO awful. can you find anyone else to be roomates with or can u afford to not have one?
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Posted: 02-10-08 21:01pm

We probably couldn't find someone else to move in (just because its such short notice, in the middle of the school year for students/would make people move away from their job if they work, etc). What we would end up doing most likely is just leaving early and getting a new place which we could financially do pretty easily. The only down side is we might lose the security deposit.
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