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living situation...ughhhh. Posted: 02-09-08 13:41pm
I know this isn't exactly about pregnancy,
but you guys are always the best at giving
advice.
This is SUPER long, so I'm really sorry in
advance.
So, Mike and I have been living with a
friend from college for the past 7 1/2
months. All three of us moved into the
apartment together. We are in the lease
for a year (so there are 4 1/2 months left
till we officially move out). Things
started out great, but I just found out
she is majorly backstabbing us.
Her and I used to be good friends. She
comes home from work every day, talks to
us about her day, and we sometimes go
shopping together and hang out. Things
seemed normal, but all of a sudden she
started writing all the time on her
myspace in bulletins, surveys, etc, how
badly she desperately wants to move out.
In one of the bulletins, out of nowhere
she writes "Mike and Sarah hate me
anyways"
I wrote to her and told her basically
"what are you talking about? where did
you get that idea from becuase we don't
hate you at all". She said we never hang
out so she feels unloved. I remind her
how we invite her to movies all the time
but she always declines, I go shopping
with her tons, we make meals with her, we
drink with her, we invite her to concerts,
and tons of other stuff. She basically
ignores what I said and said that we hide
in our room at night. We do lay in our
room at night, yes, but that is only
because Mike gets home from work at 8:30
and I'm at school all day so its nice to
lay down and wind down a little. I
understand though how it can be
offputting, so I vowed to try to change
that.
Since then, I have left our bedroom door
open every night. We invite her into our
bedroom to watch tv shows and such like
American Idol. Long story short, a friend
IM's me and tells me she is writing about
us in her livejournal saying we hate her
again.
That aside, in the 7 1/2 months here, she
has taken out the trash literally twice.
When the trash can fills up, she won't
even change the liner. She just places
her trash ontop of the counter next to the
trash can and lets the trash pile up on
the counter until I change it and take
care of it.
She won't do her dishes. She leaves them
in the sink, and then when there are no
bowls/forks/whatever left to eat with,
she'll just wash ONE so she can use that
one and put it back in the sink dirty when
she is done.
For her birthday, we got her a card and a
present. For our birthday, we didn't even
get a "happy birthday". When it was
Christmas, she was telling us and showing
us presents she bought for like 15 people,
and again, we didn't even get a card. I
don't care that we didn't get presents or
recipricated; giving is not about that.
What I care about is we didn't even get
the two words "happy birthday" when she
KNEW when our birthdays were. It's like
she didn't care at all, and that hurt.
She told me she thinks she makes a bigger
effort to be friends than I do. I'm the
one inviting her everywhere. She didn't
ONCE invite me ANYWHERE since we moved
here. I brought that up to her, and she
says "no I invited you grocery shopping
once". I was like "yeah...and I WENT WITH
YOU". and she was like "yeah, but you
know, I didn't think you really wanted to
go. You seemed annoyed like you didn't
want to be there.". I told her if I didnt
want to go, I just wouldn't have gone, but
she doesn't listen to that either. She
said she is tired of trying, but can't
give me any examples of how she tries. If
anything, I think she tries to push away,
yet she complains to everyone else about
it all over her journal and myspace and
sometimes I hear her on the phone talking
about it to people. What the heck. I'm
the one that constantly tries over and
over to invite her places, and half the
time SHE declines.
I feel like I try and try, and at least I
am giving it a shot, right? I figured
things are okay, at leaset she knows I'm
trying.
However, she keeps on writing how she
wishes and wishes and wishes she could
move out. Mike and I respond to one of
her bulletins about it (theres literally
one at least every day), and we tell her
in a super nice way "Hey, we are tired of
the apartment too. We don't get any light
through the windows and having no natural
light is dragging us down. If you are
really unhappy in the apartment and would
like to move, we would be okay for it too
and start looking for a new apartment".
She is going to move in with her b/f when
our lease is up here, so we figured it'd
make her happy and she'd be glad to get
out.
She writes back in a super nice manor as
well saying "oh, you know, I understand
how having no light is killing you. I
hate it too. However, I want to stick it
out till the lease is up so I can save up
money with my job here for the big move".
We figured that was that, and no big deal.
We'll just wait a few months.
but the other day, a mutual friend instant
messaged me and told me she was writing
about me in her livejournal. She said...
"Roommates still suck, apartments still
suck, job still sucks, money still sucks.
You get the picture.
Sarah and Mike felt the need to take time
out of their sickenly useless lives to
tell me I could move out early if I wanted
to. I was steamed about that for a day or
so. I mean, come on; how can you tell me
you would be happier if the apartment was
"set up differently"? Pretty sure that
doesn't mean the furniture, broseph."
So woahhhh. Hold up! We never told her
we wanted to move the furnature! We just
said that having no natural light coming
into the apartment is hard on us!
Why do we suck when we've been nothing but
nice?
What got me the most is her saying we have
"sickeningly useless lives". I am taking
21 credits this semester at school,
working towards a fulfilling career. I am
also working a great job as a nanny
bringing in good money. Mike is working
full time, and he's going into grad school
to further his career. We both have a
healthy, happy, loving relationship with
lots of friends who visit us most
weekends. She works 3 days a week in a
retail store, isn't going to college, and
is in a long distance relationship. I
don't understand how she thinks our lives
are useless when we are working towards so
many great things and still manage to
maintain healthy relationships and
friendships.
I overheard her on the phone the other day
saying that we talk about her behind her
back to other people and are back
stabbing, but we never have. I'm
wondering if maybe she is just saying this
stuff to people for attention? I don't
understand what is going on.
Anyways, we are half looking at new places
on the internet to move into before our
lease is up. We can break the lease and
not have to pay as long as our realtor
finds someone else to rent the apartment,
which should be super easy. Her name
isn't on the lease at all; only Mike's and
mine is, so that wouldn't be a problem.
The only thing is, I still feel extreme
guilt wanting to move out. Should I feel
guilty about wanting to leave? Is it bad
and/or backstabing since she does have
places to go? (back to her family, with
her friends, 4 months early with her
boyfriend). I feel like I've tried so
hard but nothing is enough.
What is the right thing to do? Should I
just stick it out for these four months
knowing that she talks behind my back
about me and hates me when I thought
things were okay and we were friends?
I don't want to confront her about the
livejournal entry, just because I don't
want the mutual friend who told me to get
in trouble.
I'm just lost and need major advice.
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mc4ever02
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Posted: 02-09-08 17:18pm
Aw hun, I'm sorry, this girl is really
giving you a run for your money!
From the sound of things, you couldn't be
doing anything else to make her more
comfortable. You are bending over backward
for her to be more comfortable then you
two are! And that isn't fair.
Sure, sometimes having roommates sucks.
You have to constantly think of someone
else, that you normally can't be
completely honest with (like you can with
a so) But it really sounds like you are
trying to make things as welcoming as
possible. I'm not sure what more she could
possibly want? I mean, you include her,
you clean up after her, what else is
there?
I'm sorry that I don't have any advice.
But, I really feel that you are handling
the situation much better then I would.
You continue to be much nicer then most
people in that situation. Maybe you can
just tell her that you are at a loss for
making her any more comfortable/welcomed,
and ask her for SPECIFIC examples of what
she wants/needs. I doubt she can come up
with anything.
Maybe she is going through a depression. I
know I tend to lash out at my "home" when
I get depressed, because somehow I can
blame that for everything else that is
wrong, even thought that isn't the case.
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PenguinsRus
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Posted: 02-09-08 17:48pm
Thanks. Yeah, I'm trying my best. I'm
not sure what else to do. It just kind of
sucks and hurts that I feel like I try to
do so much for her and then she calls me a
health forum and makes up lies about me
and says I'm a waste of life. I don't
understand at all where it came from. :/
Speaking of giving me a run for my money,
that happened this month literally. Rent
is 733 a person, and she gave me 400 of it
and said that the other 333 will be over 8
days late. I let it slide and covered for
her (luckily I have enough money in my
account to do that..), and she gave it to
me 8 days late. but what bothers me about
it is the same day, she made a bulletin
about how she's saved 300 dollars for
moving in july, so I know for a fact she
had 300 dollars in her room that she
wouldn't give me when she's 333 dollars
short on rent. I don't understand why she
didn't give me the 300 to pay it on time,
and then replenish it with the 333 when
she got it a week or two later.
Hopefully things will work out, but I
don't even know how to really act around
her. How do I act around someone who
pretends like she's my best friend, but
behind my back she says so many mean
things about me?
and how do I get her to clean up after
herself? I've confronted her about it
before, and she did the dishes for a week
or so and that was that. I just don't
know how much longer I can take it.
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mc4ever02
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Posted: 02-09-08 18:12pm
So, she doesn't voice these concerns to
your face? She just pretends everything is
fine? Wow, what a piece of work!
I think she is doing it for attention. If
she was truely that upset being there, it
would be apparent when she is home. She
wouldn't walk around like nothing is
wrong. I think you should cut your ties.
Tell her that you want to save your
friendship and you are afraid that if you
continue to live together (since it is
clearly causing her such distress being
there.
) And then try to find something that
would be better for both you and your
boyfriend. You have to do what is best for
you, and you can't make everyone happy all
the time. You have done you best to be
good to her, and now you need to do what
is best for you.
I don't really have any advice for making
her clean, I'm still trying to figure out
how to make Mike clean up after himself
and it's been years! Lol. How does your
b/f feel about all this?
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PenguinsRus
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Posted: 02-09-08 18:27pm
Yeah, every day she comes home from work
all smiles, talks about her day, hangs out
watching tv, and life seems completely
normal. It's really two faced.
Mike thinks its all ridiculous and thinks
that we should leave, but like me, he's
half afraid of leaving just because we are
both typically nice people that want the
best for everyone (even if they dont seem
like they deserve it). If she wants to
stay here, we feel bad looking around to
get a new place. However, at this point I
almost feel like it might be necessary.
The more the days go by, the worse it
seems to get, and the more I hear from
others (or overhear on the phone from her)
about how terrible she thinks we are.
I think I'm also kind of struggling with
it because I've never really lost a friend
before. I have a pretty easy going
personality and get along with most
people, and if I'm not meshing well with
someone we usually just talk about it and
work things out. I've never really had a
friend go behind my back like this to say
all these things and not take
responsibility and screw me over for
money, etcetc. I guess in that respect
I'm lucky I've never experience it before.
It definitely doesn't make it any easier
though.
Right now Mike and I are still kind of
stuck in between and talking about if we
want to leave her or not. We are casually
looking online at apartments, and are
thinking about looking at a few in person,
but we aren't moving out for sure. I'm
just afraid I'll feel guilty if we leave
her. but should I feel guilty if she
treats me this bad and says she wants to
move out to everyone every day anyways?
(she always says she wants to leave to
everyone, but then when we bring it up she
gets super mad we would even offer it...so
strange).
I guess I just wish she would sort out
what she wants so we know what to do. or
at least be up front with me about how she
feels. If she doesn't like me then fine,
not everyone in this world has to like me
thats no problem...just don't go behind my
back and then pretend like you're my best
friend to my face, you know?
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yellow ribbon
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Posted: 02-09-08 20:31pm
if shes not on the lease id tell her to
pack her stuff n go since obviously living
with you is SSSSoOOO awful. can you find
anyone else to be roomates with or can u
afford to not have one?
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Posted: 02-10-08 21:01pm
We probably couldn't find someone else to
move in (just because its such short
notice, in the middle of the school year
for students/would make people move away
from their job if they work, etc). What
we would end up doing most likely is just
leaving early and getting a new place
which we could financially do pretty
easily. The only down side is we might
lose the security deposit.