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Pathological Liar
Posted: 05-04-04 14:32pm

At age 29 marrying a man slightly insecure and from a social class lower than her, but however much more attractive and slender than she tells the man that she was abused,. He asks when and she replied I found out when I was 21 in college. He inquired and she said that one day she remembered being sexually abused bya friend of the family, and gave no name or time frame which it occured.
4 years pass.
The girl is increasingly overweight, the man has lost interest in her. And everytime they try to talk, she brings up the fact t hat she was abused and doesnot want to lose weight bc she doesnt want a manattracted to her. Excuse or truth?
She frequently misleads the man into thinking they will do this and that but makes excuses for why somethings do not happen.
When she is asked a specific question, she never answers, only violently reacts with a defense like who me? And attacts the man
after 4 years of strangeness and inconsistacies, the man requests a divoce, she threatens suicide 4 times.
Says she is pregnant, which later says she is not, says she is marrying a man named peter, and another man named jon, and has had sex with them numerous times.
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Emilyoemily

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Posted: 06-26-04 23:32pm

If your the man, suggest couples therapy- she'll appreciate your interest in the relationship. If your the woman, go to therapy. This is the only way you can get helped. Not getting treatment for something like this can only cause more problems. If you really care, you must find a way to get counseled.
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purple333

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Posted: 06-27-04 01:15am

I totally agree with emilyoemily, but would add that (& I am assuming that there are no children involved) it may be that the only way to get her to see sense is for you to end the relationship (then she may get help & if not at least you have a chance to start a new life & find someone who doesn't lie & manipulate, someone you can have kids with without wondering whose they are etc etc.

Counselling for both of you - whether as a couple or as individuals is needed - you can't get on with your life until you deal with a lot of issues she's raised during your marriage, which have almost certainly left you with trust issues.

As to you saying you're from a lower social class, social class etc is what you make it - you can choose to "better" yourself, you can choose to see yourself as "second" class not as good etc or you can say i'm as good as anyone.
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lollipop4u

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the Person With the Problem ...
Posted: 06-30-04 07:38am

Please, stand up ! Are you sitting down ? You shouldn 't be ! Your emphasis is on the " flesh ", rather than, her " spirit ", which, if you haven 't matured, this girl isn 't the one that will " work " for you ... Right now ... Or ... Vice versa ! Ok ... So ... When christ died on the cross ... He didn 't specify a certain weight ... Like you just did for her . Life ... Is not a joke ! You ... May not have found this out yet but ... Maybe ... She has ! This young lady ... May have had an abortion that she 's grieving the loss of a child & is looking to keep herself from ... More sorrow . If so, yes, she 'll need a " personal trained counselor " . And, you ... Will simply need to grow, that 's right ... Grow ... Mad as a human being ! Seriously, laura
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jessicx

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Not the Answer...
Posted: 07-08-04 20:15pm

Don't divorce her to try to drive the point home, and don't do something to try to "convince" her she's insane. It will drive her to do worse than anything she's tried so far. It's like the old cliche....." tell a suicidal person to think about their family before they do something drastic"... It doesn't work and actually makes them even sicker. She needs psychotherapy. Don't think about drugs. Just get her to a psychologist asap. Maybe all she needs to do is talk to someone.
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lollipop4u

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Are You ...
Posted: 07-09-04 16:28pm

Internally or externally motivated Question Question Question I say ... You are easily ... Externally motivated Evil or
Very Mad Evil or
Very Mad Evil or
Very Mad I say ... You are ... Easy as pie ... To " see through " ... " the looking glass self " Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil motivated Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation & ... If ... How you ... Or ... Any " innocent " you happen to meet along your not so merry little way ... Try to do your very damnedest ... To just simply ... " measure up " ... In this sickest of the sick societies of the green earth & if that 's all this potentially " good " life is ... To you ... & ... If the biggest ... Problem ... That you will ever face ... Is something like stealing somebody 's $ 200 .00 sneakers ... Then ... How well are you Question Question Question not her, mr." beam in your eyes " no ... Not her ... You ... Hello ... It 's ... All about ... " you " Question Question Question you and me ... And therefore ... We ... Are " living " .. All of us ... In a " sick society " Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes and if ... All you care about in this life is the exterior or " shell " of another Question Question Question then ... What in the world kind of an fool are you ??? So ... If you continue with your life 's ambition & " kneel down " before " your god " of shopping @ neiman marcus for a little piece of " class " ... Question Question Question help others, such as, the young lady in question Cool Cool Cool will you help her toward developing insecurities ... Or ... Pray tell us, on the net ... Will you for some " ungodly " reason ... Help her and others in his old world that you like to judge, so heartlessly, to feel, more secure Question Question Question there is just one thing ... That I am certain of ... You need to learn how to use different " measuring sticks "Idea Idea Idea exceptionally, laura
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purple333

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Posted: 07-09-04 19:31pm

Lollipop4u

insanity4u Evil or
Very Mad Evil or
Very Mad Evil or
Very Mad Evil or
Very Mad is more like it - what the hell post are you replying to???? Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil someone is in a relationship with alot of emotional twists/lies & problems - which none of us knows whether they are true or false Exclamation Exclamation but where did you come up with the garbage about shopping Exclamation Question & stealing sneakers Question Evil or
Very Mad & the abortion rubbish come from - your own sick mind Exclamation Exclamation twisted Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

how about you go find a sight for people who want to write insane garbage & stories rather than coming here where people come to try & find som e help/advice. Evil or
Very Mad Twisted Evil Evil or
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lollipop4u

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Ok People ...
Posted: 07-23-04 19:20pm

Maybe it shows something about the relationship of which you, the " accusor " make up one half . I say, we get this girl into some sunshine and or a church where she can speak with a christian counselor, or for that matter, anyone who cares even a little about her instead of what size she comes in !!! Laura
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purple333

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Posted: 07-23-04 19:53pm

Maybe you haven't yet matured anough to realize that
a) some people do not believe in god/religion of any kind
b) many religious councillors are untrained & bigoted(esp. Re women & their place etc
c) this "girl" is not the one seeking help - perhaps asking for some further information about this couple would be more effective than coming up with your own scenarios etc.
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2ferano

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Posted: 08-10-04 07:47am

Jessicx
i just wanted to say that sometimes does work. I know for a fact that can work. If a suicidal person is put in the mind of how his loved ones would feel if he did kill himself it can put things into a whole different perspective. No, it will not work all of the time, but it does work for some.
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