Seraph
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Making life worth living...
Posted: 02-20-08 03:24am
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So here's a question to all of you that is
sitting next to me in this sinking boat of
dispair/anxiety/suicidal thaughts...
What motivates you to keep on
living...What helps you not pull that
trigger/Jump off that chair/Pop thos
pills...?
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marvel
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Posted: 02-20-08 10:49am
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What I already have and the potential of
what is to come.
Even when I was at my absolute saddest, I
knew that I still had my family who loved
me, and I knew, deep down inside, that if
I got my depression under control, there
was vast potential for me to do something
with my life. Knowing that there is
something up on the road ahead has kept me
alive many times.
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bakin_april
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Posted: 02-20-08 11:02am
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My daughter. I'd made some bad choices as
her mother and I think my suicide would be
the last straw for her and she may do the
same.
My mother. We're very, very close (she
has major depression, too) and I think my
suicide would devastate her.
Me. (Took years to believe this.) I
believe we're all here for a reason and I
hadn't discovered mine yet.
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mominashoe
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Posted: 02-20-08 11:28am
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I'm a Catholic, so the main reason is that
I know I'd go straight to hell if I did a
thing like that. Then I have 6 kids who
love me. The reason why they aren't first
is because many times they are the source
of my depression and all I want to do is
get away from them for a break!
April, I am so proud of the fact that you
have realized that you yourself are a good
enough reason to stay around
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Seraph
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Posted: 02-21-08 04:22am
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What I have...
A dad, who's first reaction when he
visited me in the hospital, after I had a
major dislocation of my left knee and
would be "out of service" for almost two
months, was "What about your job?!"...not
"Jees son, are you in a lot of pain?...Is
there something I can do for you?". Like
as if it was my fault that I was born with
screwed up knees??!?!?!!
A mom, whom would most probably also
commit cuicide as she also suffers from
depression.
Fear...
I am Christian, although I am in the
Reformed Church, it's still a sin to
commit suicide but when I'm in the bad
place, it doesn't seem to matter. Reality
does not register and concepts such as
Hell seems vague and meaningless...All I
want to do at that point is escape this
life and slip into oblivion...
My self...
Ummm...yea... April, you go girl!...me,
I'm worthless...
So in the end...
The only thing that is keeping me from
doing "IT" is the guilt over my mom's
suffering or even suicide...the rest...it
just don't seem to matter.
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Seraph
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Posted: 02-21-08 04:25am
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P.S. I'm going to make an appointment
with my shrink, for a re-eval, as the
pills don't seem to work any more...even
my parents say that they can see it's not
working any more...
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bakin_april
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Posted: 02-21-08 09:59am
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My parents did the same thing. I had a
wreck and they came in and said they had
to go because Mom had to catch a flight.
People often don't think about how their
actions affect us and how strong words are
to us.
I totally agree with you about when you're
in the deepest state of depression you
don't care about the ramifications of
suicide or anything else. Please remember
from one who's lived there too that the
feelings end and you'll go on a stronger
person for it. I'm not saying suffering
is good, but I believe it makes us
stronger each time we endure it.
You do have worth as a human being. I
have no doubt there's something for me to
learn from your postings. Someone else
may come along and decide not to act on
their suicidal thoughts or to see a
psychiatrist because of what you write
here.
Did you make your appointment? I hope you
can get in soon so the adjustment can be
made to your meds. Let me know how it
goes.
PM if you need someone to talk to.
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Seraph
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Posted: 02-22-08 07:19am
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My shrink is rather busy, so I was only
able to get an appntmnt for the 4th of
March.
Another thing that I have noticed is that
I am starting to "babble" again. I don't
know how to explain it or if anyone has
had experience like this but it seems like
when I get frustrated, anxious or nervous
I would talk "gibberish" out loud. It's a
bit embarrising...cus it's just plain
nonsense spewing from my mouth.
It's jut a phrase of non-sensical,
non-existing words...
Thanks for the support tho. It does help,
even if it's just for a short reprieve, to
talk about things.
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mominashoe
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Posted: 02-22-08 07:27am
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| Seraph
wrote: | My shrink is rather busy, so
I was only able to get an appntmnt for the
4th of March.
Another thing that I have noticed is that
I am starting to "babble" again. I don't
know how to explain it or if anyone has
had experience like this but it seems like
when I get frustrated, anxious or nervous
I would talk "gibberish" out loud. It's a
bit embarrising...cus it's just plain
nonsense spewing from my mouth.
It's jut a phrase of non-sensical,
non-existing words...
Thanks for the support tho. It does help,
even if it's just for a short reprieve, to
talk about things. |
I did that once....I made up my own
language and couldn't stop talking. I was
severely depressed and very drunk (but
that was the first and last time on the
drunk part lol.)
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georgina23
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Suicide.
Posted: 02-26-08 12:46pm
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My boyfriend committed suicide. He jumped
off a car park. He was a gentle person,
and an alcoholic. He jumped when he was
stone cold sober.
I still cry for him and how sad he must
have been. If only he had asked for help.
His death (even tho he was a drunk and had
no job, but was a lovely person who was
simply ill) is STILL causing effect on
those that loved him, 16 years on and
counting.
I have this to say: It is your life. It is
your LIFE. You only have one. It's not a
game. You wont wake up with the support
you need around you. That's it. Gone.
It's a really great step to have made an
appointment with your shrink.
Keep going my friend. All this WILL pass.
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Seraph
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Posted: 02-27-08 10:45am
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I'm sorry to hear about your boyfriend.
It's sad when things get so difficult that
you just can't bear it anymore. I know
that on the one side, those you leave
behind will never truely get over it.
Sometimes, and I know this sounds just
wrong, but you just can't help feeling "I
didn't ask for this life...I dont want to
be alive.".
I really feel like I wouldn't have missed
anything if I wasn't born to begin
with...it's a kinda empty, dead,
emotionless feeling. Nothing to live
for...nothing to be happy about...nothing
to keep me here...I just can't do it
anymore.
Hopefully the shrink will have some
answers.
One thing I have started to realise is for
example...I have flat feet and pronounce
when walking. After I had gotten
orthopedic inserts for my shoes and had
been told how to stand and walk
properly...it's almost like "Gees! I
don't need so much effort to
stand/walk!!!".
I am hoping that, at some stage, with the
right medication/guidance I can have the
same kind of feeling in terms of my state
of mind. It seems like that in everything
I do, I just have to work SOOO
hard...harder than what I am supposed to?
I have found this to be true with certain
exercises at the bio-kineticist as
well...In this one exercise, I have to
stand on half a ball with my eyes closed.
I usually struglle really hard to retain
my balance but on the days that I am
down...and my mind is too tired, I get it
right...strange.
The sooner it passes...the better. I'm on
an emotional roller coaster on a daily
basis.
It would be so much easier if one could
just transplant all of your feelings and
emotions into someone elses head to try
and make them understand what you are
feeling.
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Seraph
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Now...more confused than ever...
Posted: 03-04-08 03:30am
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So I saw my shrink this morning...and it
was a scary experience...
For some reason, while relating my
worries/problems, I didn't feel like my
self 0.O It was almost like someone else
was relating the issues to her...like I
was cut off from my emotions 0.0 ...
Now, I am in such a weird emotional state,
I feel like my emotions is in neutral...
Any hew...I was referred to a
psychiatrist...psychologists is not
allowed to give out/alter
prescriptions...seeing her on Saturday
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georgina23
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I know what you mean
Posted: 03-08-08 13:02pm
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I just WISH there was some software or
something that could transport all of how
we feel into someone elses head JUST SO
THEY COULD SEE/ understand etc....
Am sure someone will crack it one day.
Keep at it - admiring your 'upbeat'
writing - even tho you might not feel like
it.
And I also empathise with your thinking:
"even tho everyone else might suffer if i
am not here anymore, i don't want this
life".
But you've got it. And it WILL get better.
I keep telling myself that it can't get
much worse right?? and if it does - well,
it doesn't matter, i feel rubbish anyway
so what's another little problem on the
list.
Keep your chin up - this time will pass.
Depression can make everything seem like a
mountain.
Something that might help - i make a list
for my shrink in between times. it helps
me keep check of how/what affects me....
and it's more 'real' and easier to speak
to him during my session.
Good luck. Keep posting ! x
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Seraph
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Posted: 03-08-08 15:57pm
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Thanks georgina23
I know what you mean when you say you wish
you could transport your feelings...It
would make things so much easier.
I saw the Psychiatrist today and she
doubled my prescription along with giving
me anti-anxiety and sleeping pills.
Turns out...I also have a social-phobia
that I don't admit to...but seeing as it's
not "debilitating enough", my
classification is as BP 2.
The session was really hard on me as I
walked out with a major headache.
Will have to see how things goes with the
new meds.
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MaineGirl76
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Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 19 Location: Maine
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Re: Making life worth living...
Posted: 03-08-08 19:05pm
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| Seraph
wrote: | So here's a question to all
of you that is sitting next to me in this
sinking boat of dispair/anxiety/suicidal
thaughts...
What motivates you to keep on
living...What helps you not pull that
trigger/Jump off that chair/Pop thos
pills...? |
The fear of doing it wrong and I'll
survive.
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Seraph
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Posted: 03-10-08 05:11am
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*Huggs* MaineGirl76
I know how desperate you must feel...this
is a "practice what you preech" scenario
but hang in there!
If you feel really bad...and I know that
usually your mind is not in a state to do
this but do try...let us know. We all
know how it feels and sometimes just
talking about it makes you feel
better...even if it's just for 1%...
Won't hurt to try
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Gustov
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Re: Making life worth living...
Posted: 03-10-08 23:33pm
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I'm curious to see how far I can make it.
I'm starting to notice that I'm affecting
other people now in a negative way now
that I didn't do so when I was a child..
so I'm considering that it may be the time
to either isolate or eliminate myself.
Curiosity keeps me going.
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MaineGirl76
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Re: Making life worth living...
Posted: 03-11-08 00:29am
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| Gustov
wrote: | I'm curious to see how far I
can make it. I'm starting to notice that
I'm affecting other people now in a
negative way now that I didn't do so when
I was a child.. so I'm considering that it
may be the time to either isolate or
eliminate myself.
Curiosity keeps me
going. |
I have noticed that too. I isolate myself
alot! To the point where I feel as though
I can't control it.
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Phalid
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Re: Making life worth living...
Posted: 04-01-08 20:34pm
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| Seraph
wrote: | So here's a question to all
of you that is sitting next to me in this
sinking boat of dispair/anxiety/suicidal
thaughts...
What motivates you to keep on
living...What helps you not pull that
trigger/Jump off that chair/Pop thos
pills...? |
My kids.
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lafae
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Posted: 04-13-08 09:58am
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Who will find me, how will they find me,
how will it impact on them...?
What will the children of my friends and
family think about it?
What if I change my mind at the last
minute?
Why be that bloody selfish?
I suppose deep down I have a sliver of
hope that things can always get better and
that we're all really spoiled and
over-concerned about quality of life,
debts, stress of work, love, keeping up
with the Jones's etc.
Sometimes you just have to appreciate the
simpler things in life a bit more.
A gorgeous sky, the sea, a moving book or
film, a nice meal, the presence of loved
ones in your life...
Dare I say 'good health' ?
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