Hi there, im 15 years old and i have been
masterbating for about 2 years.
I know there is nothing wrong with
masterbating, its a natural thing that
people do. My problem is that masterbating
has caused me some annoying mental
problems. Whenever i think of masterbating
i get stressed (i sweat, my hands and feet
get cold, i have to go to the bathtroom
ect...). And i KNOW this is because i
fundamentally think masterbating is
somewhat wrong. Im not very religious but
i believe in god and i feel that
masterbating is SOMEWHAT of a sin. The
other problem is im always worried that im
going to get caught. And i feel guilty
afterwords, i always tell myself i should
stop and that its bad.
I know these are common problems people
face. But its really starting to affect
me, any time i get arroused i start to get
stressed. I have latley been trying to
conveince myself that its okay to
masterbate. But it doesnt seem to work
that great. This is really annoying me and
i am somewhat worried it will affect me in
the long run.
My question is, is there really anything i
can do to stop the stress fealing i get
when i masterbate, or think about
masterbating?
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TerryFunk
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Posted: 02-25-08 18:48pm
Wow. Not sure how to answer this. It's
not wrong and you know that. Honestly,
it's my only relief from the crap I'm
going through. I think we all have these
feelings at times, and it's normal. I
suggest going to someone like perhaps your
parents, or if that's too embarassing,
someone at school and talking to them
about it. It's been a while since I've
been 15, but I remember the feelings, as
well. I think when you become older,
you'll realize there's nothing to be
stressed about. Don't worry about getting
caught, etc...
Other than that, not sure what to say.
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MiseEire
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Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 170
Posted: 02-26-08 17:27pm
First of all, ditch all religious guilt.
Whether religious or not, masturbation is
not an act of evil or anything like that.
If your body can do it, then it
pretty-much is supposed to do it. I'm not
religious but if you were to take the
theory that God made man in his image then
there's a pretty likely chance that even
he too would masturbate.
What you're feeling is uncommon. It's
probably a phase you'll pass through
sooner or later. To avoid getting caught
or anything, just make sure you have
privacy. Masturbation is the last thing
that should be stressful.
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homerx
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Posted: 02-26-08 17:41pm
MiseEire
wrote:
First of all, ditch all
religious guilt. Whether religious or not,
masturbation is not an act of evil or
anything like that. If your body can do
it, then it pretty-much is supposed to do
it. I'm not religious but if you were to
take the theory that God made man in his
image then there's a pretty likely chance
that even he too would masturbate.
What you're feeling is uncommon. It's
probably a phase you'll pass through
sooner or later. To avoid getting caught
or anything, just make sure you have
privacy. Masturbation is the last thing
that should be
stressful.
so true...masturbating is a stress
reliever if anything. God doesn't care....
I am sure he has bigger things to worry
about..war or you masturbating? death and
disease or you masturbating? hunger,
hurricanes, homicide, child molesters,
divorce, floods,disasters of all kinds,
evil of all kinds or you masturbating? It
wouldn't make since for God to micro
manage if he does exist...he has bigger
things to worry about than you or I having
a little wacky wacky every now and
again...no biggie.
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brtammy
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Posted: 02-26-08 18:09pm
the fact that you are feeling odd when you
want to do it, tells you right there that
you feel guilty. because whether anyone
wants to believe it or not, we have a
inborn conscience . And it is telling you
to stop and you are ignoring it.Not a big
deal dude, just stop it. If you dont stop,
you will damage your outlook on real
regular sex with a woman, and have a
warped inappropriate view .your 15, your
hormones have no outlet, but now this is a
bad habit that you need to break.
the bible does indeed condemn
masterbating, as it is self abuse, we were
not created to abuse ourselves in that
manor.
God gave us a conscience, now use it the
right way.
find something else to do ,to get you out
of a situation where you will feel the
need.
tell yourself not to do it, and hopefully
when your 21 youll find a nice girl to
marry and she will take care of it for
you.
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Posted: 02-27-08 15:38pm
hi, rocker.
First of all, ignore the post above this
one.
We do NOT have an innate conscience. We
only can rely on what we are being told as
a result of generations of built up
discipline, ideas and religious influence.
You feel guilty about masturbation because
of the anti-sexual pleasure culture you
find yourself growing up in.
It feels good. You aren't harming anyone
or anything. What on earth could be wrong
with anything that feels good but doesn't
hurt anyone or anything?
And as for this "it changes your outlook
on real regular sex with a woman"
mumbo-jumbo. Masturbation and sex are NOT
the same thing.... at all. Sex is WAY
better than masturbation, and you will
realise this whenever your time comes. It
therefore cannot change or damage your
outlook on sex. It won't.
It is natural for us to explore our
bodies. We weren't given (or we didn't
develop, depending on your religious view)
these bodies full of pleasure centres for
nothing. I do believe that sex should be
saved for someone special.. absolutely.
Masturbation is for you... it's your
method of exploration. Use to to find what
feels good. You can then communicate this
to any future sexual partner... it makes
for a very intimate experience.
And I hope you don't get married when
you're 21. I do hope, tough, that she will
"take care of it for you." You can tell
her what to 'take care of' because you'll
already know because you would have
explored what feels good.
Peace. If you have any more questions,
fire away.
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MiseEire
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Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 170
Posted: 02-27-08 15:55pm
brtammy
wrote:
the fact that you are
feeling odd when you want to do it, tells
you right there that you feel guilty.
because whether anyone wants to believe it
or not, we have a inborn conscience . And
it is telling you to stop and you are
ignoring it.Not a big deal dude, just stop
it. If you dont stop, you will damage your
outlook on real regular sex with a woman,
and have a warped inappropriate view .your
15, your hormones have no outlet, but now
this is a bad habit that you need to
break.
the bible does indeed condemn
masterbating, as it is self abuse, we were
not created to abuse ourselves in that
manor.
God gave us a conscience, now use it the
right way.
find something else to do ,to get you out
of a situation where you will feel the
need.
tell yourself not to do it, and hopefully
when your 21 youll find a nice girl to
marry and she will take care of it for
you.
The quoted post is HIGHLY misleading. The
only inborn conscience we have are our
instincts and should that result in
masturbating occasionally, so be it!
As humans, we are quite unique in our
sexual habits. We walk upright and have
the largest male genitalia of all the high
primates due to this (probably also due to
our habit of emotionally-attached,
belly-to-belly copulation). We have
opposable thumbs and far-reaching arms. A
human male is designed to masturbate. My
theory is, as society has developed over
hundreds of thousands of years, we have
evolved to the point where we must adapt
to the social circumstances in order to
survive better. Humans look over each
other, animalistic mating is limited to
chaotic existence. Humans feel a lot more
physical pleasure when having sex
therefore masturbation, for lack of having
regular intercourse, is a useful practice
in order to better ourselves sexually.
Insofar as having sex if you never
masturbate, you are likely to perform
terribly. Control over orgasm and
pleasuring your partner is extremely
difficult when you don't know how to even
do it yourself. As I said, animalistic sex
is out. Human sexuality is based around
pleasuring your partner, we thrive on
this. Masturbation prepares for this.
Simple as.
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Posted: 02-27-08 16:01pm
MiseEire and marvel...yes and yes...
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Posted: 02-27-08 16:01pm
ooo, very nice, MiseEire
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Helpatlast
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Posted: 02-27-08 16:24pm
Dear rocker-kid....I went through the same
thing...with the guilt. It wasn't from
religion, it was from being beaten by my
parents whenever I simply asked about sex,
or showed any interest in that fuction.
When it was finally time to become a
sexually functioning young lady, I found
that I was frigid with a partner, though
I'd been managing to masturbate alone with
some success. As time has gone on, I've
fought to establish a sense of personal
freedom, which is what I'd suggest for you
as well - because in the end, I'm so
highly sexually functioning that many
people have asked ME for advice. I broke
though! Sex has become one of the
cornerstones of a HEALTH regimen for me.
My libido, at age 47 now, goes way beyond
the average. It motivates me to attend the
gym, eat right...I want to look as good as
I can for my partner. Centerfold stuff.
What I have found of folks is that if they
have any shame associated with their
normal physical functions, it's a blow to
their self-esteem. It's so important to
get to know and love yourself...and treat
that bod like the personal temple that it
is. The exercises I would prescribe for
someone fighting against the taboos that
interrupt a healthy sexual outlook are;
Library trips to seek out literature about
natives...and generally, folks who run
around nude without hang-ups....(they have
a lot to teach us, and it inspires one to
accept nudity for themselves), going ahead
and freely implement fantasies that you
find pleasure in during your
"self-administrations"... maybe talk to a
peer that you trust - ask someone how they
feel about masturbation- (get feedback),
exercise in a mirror - find beauty in
yourself...and realize...your body belongs
to you....nobody is watching, nobody is
judging...you have one life to live...LIVE
IT.
I wish you many, many fine hours of
gratification. I'm sure you will...you
already have the intelligence to seek
answers and not stay bound to that BS that
holds you back.
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homerx
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Posted: 02-27-08 16:27pm
Helpatlast...very good.
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mr tibbs
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Posted: 02-27-08 16:37pm
Generally nature is a very astute entity
in as much that it would not make
masturbation a pleasurable act if it was
not, in some way, beneficial to our health
and well-being!
As for the act disturbing a god then
ponder on this; A god really should have
more concern about the terrible human
suffering in this world - a mother killed
in a road accident, a child born with
congenital brain damage, families dying of
hunger in Africa. I have a feeling that
your natural and necessary desires which
harm no one will not register very highly
on some deity's priority.
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Helpatlast
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Posted: 02-27-08 20:22pm
Yeah, and about the god thing...I met a
minister who felt so passionately about
God being responsible for his carnal
enjoyment...(God being the creator of our
bodies and all), that he would interrupt
his sessions with his wife and expound in
loud verbiage how thankful he was to have
gotten such a fine gift from the creator.
A little too out there for me, and for his
wife - she left him, but if someone has to
do the bible thing, I think it makes a
good point. The pleasure of sight, smell,
taste....any pleasure...if you believe
that the biblical God gave us these, and
you want to be thankful for what we've
been given, then do those gifts justice
and use all of them.
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s2163201
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Posted: 02-27-08 20:42pm
I'm a medical student and I have come
across young guys with this same problem.
Some - and I stress NOT ALL of them - have
this feeling of guilt because they are
homosexual. When they masturbate, they
fantasize about men, and this can cause
them some confusion and guilt about being
gay.
We don't need to know if this is the case,
Rocker, but you need to know that it's
okay to be gay if you are. Regardless of
what the religious and small-minded say.
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brtammy
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Posted: 02-28-08 08:33am
rocker kid,
If it makes YOU feel uncomfortable stop
it, its not about anyone elses opinion,
why should anyone make you go against your
own self? If it hurt to poke yourself in
the eye, why would you keep doing it?
Masterbation is an addiction, if it wasnt,
you and many others would have stopped by
now. thats why people make exscuses like
these.
IF in fact you believe in God, then dont
you care what HE thinks, and not all
these
people on here telling YOU what YOU want
to hear? People look for any reason to
justify behavior , so they will ask for an
opinion untill they get one they like, so
they can continue to do what they want,
saying that God made our bodies to do what
we want with is a lie, thats not what it
says in the bible.
it also says in the bible that
homosexuality is a sin worthy of death.
no your not gay, your not abnormal,
however, why does anyone feel the need to
masturbate ?
simply for the self involved feeling of an
orgasm,[ and if for stress like I have
hear, then, find out why your stressed and
deal with that].thus misusing something
wonderfull to be shared with with our
husband or wife. Yes it is a gift from
God, but not to be abused like some
people are doing. And yes we do have an
inborn conscience, if we dint you wouldnt
be having a problem, and all these people
wouldnt be trying to justify thier own
behavior with comments like these.
Its not what WE think its IS what God
thinks that we should be concerned with
And just because some people reason in
thier imperfect minds that God accepts
everyone no matter what, It tells me that
they have never read the bible and if they
did choose to interpret it to please
themselves.[which by the way is what the
bible says people will do]
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Posted: 02-28-08 10:13am
brtammy
wrote:
rocker kid,
If it makes YOU feel uncomfortable stop
it, its not about anyone elses opinion,
why should anyone make you go against your
own self? If it hurt to poke yourself in
the eye, why would you keep doing it?
Masterbation is an addiction, if it wasnt,
you and many others would have stopped by
now. thats why people make exscuses like
these.
IF in fact you believe in God, then dont
you care what HE thinks, and not all
these
people on here telling YOU what YOU want
to hear? People look for any reason to
justify behavior , so they will ask for an
opinion untill they get one they like, so
they can continue to do what they want,
saying that God made our bodies to do what
we want with is a lie, thats not what it
says in the bible.
it also says in the bible that
homosexuality is a sin worthy of death.
no your not gay, your not abnormal,
however, why does anyone feel the need to
masturbate ?
simply for the self involved feeling of an
orgasm,[ and if for stress like I have
hear, then, find out why your stressed and
deal with that].thus misusing something
wonderfull to be shared with with our
husband or wife. Yes it is a gift from
God, but not to be abused like some
people are doing. And yes we do have an
inborn conscience, if we dint you wouldnt
be having a problem, and all these people
wouldnt be trying to justify thier own
behavior with comments like these.
Its not what WE think its IS what God
thinks that we should be concerned with
And just because some people reason in
thier imperfect minds that God accepts
everyone no matter what, It tells me that
they have never read the bible and if they
did choose to interpret it to please
themselves.[which by the way is what the
bible says people will
do]
You think gay people should be put to
death? Is that what your saying???
And by the way , the bible, that book of
Gods Laws you keep talking about, also
says...if you eat shell fish you are
doomed to hell, if you speak out in church
you are doomed to hell, if a woman shows
her arms. legs or cuts her hair she should
be stoned, all women should keep there
heads covered and heads bowed and be
subservient to men, never speak in church,
never eat pork or you are doomed to hell,
and it goes on and on...so brtammy, try to
remember this little tid bit...Judge Not
Lest Ye Be Judged! Let He Who Is Without
Sin Cast The First Stone. Thats what gets
me about the ultra religious right, you
pick and choose what you want to put in
and what you want to leave out...why do
you want to make this pore kid feel like
he is going to hell just for masturbating
once in a while? Does that somehow absolve
you of your sins?
And rocker kid...if it bothers you that
much then stop it. If you are that ate up
with guilt then you have worse problems
then masturbation..
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MiseEire
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Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 170
Posted: 02-28-08 10:47am
brtammy
wrote:
rocker kid,
If it makes YOU feel uncomfortable stop
it, its not about anyone elses opinion,
why should anyone make you go against your
own self? If it hurt to poke yourself in
the eye, why would you keep doing it?
Masterbation is an addiction, if it wasnt,
you and many others would have stopped by
now. thats why people make exscuses like
these.
IF in fact you believe in God, then dont
you care what HE thinks, and not all
these
people on here telling YOU what YOU want
to hear? People look for any reason to
justify behavior , so they will ask for an
opinion untill they get one they like, so
they can continue to do what they want,
saying that God made our bodies to do what
we want with is a lie, thats not what it
says in the bible.
it also says in the bible that
homosexuality is a sin worthy of death.
no your not gay, your not abnormal,
however, why does anyone feel the need to
masturbate ?
simply for the self involved feeling of an
orgasm,[ and if for stress like I have
hear, then, find out why your stressed and
deal with that].thus misusing something
wonderfull to be shared with with our
husband or wife. Yes it is a gift from
God, but not to be abused like some
people are doing. And yes we do have an
inborn conscience, if we dint you wouldnt
be having a problem, and all these people
wouldnt be trying to justify thier own
behavior with comments like these.
Its not what WE think its IS what God
thinks that we should be concerned with
And just because some people reason in
thier imperfect minds that God accepts
everyone no matter what, It tells me that
they have never read the bible and if they
did choose to interpret it to please
themselves.[which by the way is what the
bible says people will
do]
I hope you're proud of the fact that you
may very well be making this kid's
unfortunate dilemma even worse. You should
be ashamed of yourself. Typical
fundamental religious gibberish. It's
hilarious how you preach about the word of
God and your flawless sense of morality
when all it causes is more confusion and
fear. You give honest religious people a
bad name.
Masturbation is not an addiction and it is
not comparable to poking oneself in the
eye. It is a perfectly normal bodily
function for lack of having a sexual
partner available at the time, teenage
boys generally don't have wives! To call
it an addiction is like calling eating,
breathing or sleeping an addiction. Very
few things are actually addictive in the
true sense of the word. It seems to be the
current fad to call anything "addictive"
these days, from playing video games to
ensuring that your house is clean.
Now take your superstitious nonsense and
utter it elsewhere.
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Posted: 02-28-08 10:57am
MiseEire
wrote:
brtammy
wrote:
rocker kid,
If it makes YOU feel uncomfortable stop
it, its not about anyone elses opinion,
why should anyone make you go against your
own self? If it hurt to poke yourself in
the eye, why would you keep doing it?
Masterbation is an addiction, if it wasnt,
you and many others would have stopped by
now. thats why people make exscuses like
these.
IF in fact you believe in God, then dont
you care what HE thinks, and not all
these
people on here telling YOU what YOU want
to hear? People look for any reason to
justify behavior , so they will ask for an
opinion untill they get one they like, so
they can continue to do what they want,
saying that God made our bodies to do what
we want with is a lie, thats not what it
says in the bible.
it also says in the bible that
homosexuality is a sin worthy of death.
no your not gay, your not abnormal,
however, why does anyone feel the need to
masturbate ?
simply for the self involved feeling of an
orgasm,[ and if for stress like I have
hear, then, find out why your stressed and
deal with that].thus misusing something
wonderfull to be shared with with our
husband or wife. Yes it is a gift from
God, but not to be abused like some
people are doing. And yes we do have an
inborn conscience, if we dint you wouldnt
be having a problem, and all these people
wouldnt be trying to justify thier own
behavior with comments like these.
Its not what WE think its IS what God
thinks that we should be concerned with
And just because some people reason in
thier imperfect minds that God accepts
everyone no matter what, It tells me that
they have never read the bible and if they
did choose to interpret it to please
themselves.[which by the way is what the
bible says people will
do]
I hope you're proud of the fact that you
may very well be making this kid's
unfortunate dilemma even worse. You should
be ashamed of yourself. Typical
fundamental religious gibberish. It's
hilarious how you preach about the word of
God and your flawless sense of morality
when all it causes is more confusion and
fear. You give honest religious people a
bad name.
Masturbation is not an addiction and it is
not comparable to poking oneself in the
eye. It is a perfectly normal bodily
function for lack of having a sexual
partner available at the time, teenage
boys generally don't have wives! To call
it an addiction is like calling eating,
breathing or sleeping an addiction. Very
few things are actually addictive in the
true sense of the word. It seems to be the
current fad to call anything "addictive"
these days, from playing video games to
ensuring that your house is clean.
Now take your superstitious nonsense and
utter it elsewhere.
Well put, MiseEire
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marvel
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Posted: 02-28-08 13:45pm
brtammy
wrote:
rocker kid,
If it makes YOU feel uncomfortable stop
it, its not about anyone elses opinion,
why should anyone make you go against your
own self? If it hurt to poke yourself in
the eye, why would you keep doing it?
Masterbation is an addiction, if it wasnt,
you and many others would have stopped by
now. thats why people make exscuses like
these.
IF in fact you believe in God, then dont
you care what HE thinks, and not all
these
people on here telling YOU what YOU want
to hear? People look for any reason to
justify behavior , so they will ask for an
opinion untill they get one they like, so
they can continue to do what they want,
saying that God made our bodies to do what
we want with is a lie, thats not what it
says in the bible.
it also says in the bible that
homosexuality is a sin worthy of death.
no your not gay, your not abnormal,
however, why does anyone feel the need to
masturbate ?
simply for the self involved feeling of an
orgasm,[ and if for stress like I have
hear, then, find out why your stressed and
deal with that].thus misusing something
wonderfull to be shared with with our
husband or wife. Yes it is a gift from
God, but not to be abused like some
people are doing. And yes we do have an
inborn conscience, if we dint you wouldnt
be having a problem, and all these people
wouldnt be trying to justify thier own
behavior with comments like these.
Its not what WE think its IS what God
thinks that we should be concerned with
And just because some people reason in
thier imperfect minds that God accepts
everyone no matter what, It tells me that
they have never read the bible and if they
did choose to interpret it to please
themselves.[which by the way is what the
bible says people will
do]
You do realise that it makes him feel
uncomfortable because he has grown up in
this type of culture? He has grown up in a
culture that has convinced him that
pleasure (the kind that doesn't hurt
anybody at all) is BAD. He feels guilt
because of people like you fostering it.
NOT because God has instilled it.
And to the med student, I totally get what
you're saying. I had intense feelings of
guilt after I would masturbate when I was
younger. And I'm gay.
Oh, shouldn't that mean I should be
punished with death? Let the one who
hasn't sinned cast the first stone.
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Posted: 02-28-08 14:01pm
I guess I must be a freak...I NEVER felt
guilty. As a matter of fact, my father
once said not to worry about it because it
doesn't cause pimples...which i had heard
at school that it did! My dad told me it
was normal and my dad is a wise and loving
and caring man...he didn't want to warp
his children with threats of hell and
damnation over something as trivial as
masturbating..it isn't like murdering a
person...choking the chicken is just an
expression!
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