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2ferano
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Posted: 05-14-04 15:25pm
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Once again, a fetus become a "human being,
baby, whatever" when it is developed
enough to survive on its own.
And no, a fetus, does not always have the
arms legs and whatnot. At first, it is
just a blob. Like it or not!
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samie
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Posted: 05-14-04 18:02pm
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Hotasfrick, okay lets see you prove that
it only becomes a human being at
viability!
Lets see the medical documentation with
the medical term - blob
such a dehumanizing post - it is offensive
to call me a former blob very ageist
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JanetBee
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Posted: 05-14-04 20:26pm
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So when do you celebrate your birthday?
Do you know the date you were conceived?
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samie
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Posted: 05-14-04 22:07pm
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Birthdays are not scientific but cultural
celebrations - in china and some other
eastern countries they celebrate
conception.
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JanetBee
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Posted: 05-14-04 22:08pm
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Everything is a cultural conception.
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samie
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Posted: 05-14-04 22:11pm
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No it isnt - your mad a tells ya mad!
Like you said identical twins have the
same dna is that a cultural conception -
no person its a scientific fact
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JanetBee
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Posted: 05-14-04 22:15pm
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I'm glad you agree with me then. If I am
a person, then you are an insane,
demented, deluded, sadistic psychopath.
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samie
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Posted: 05-14-04 22:18pm
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"insane, demented, deluded, sadistic
psychopath. "
i am not the one condoning the health
question of children
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JanetBee
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Posted: 05-14-04 22:20pm
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Okay, just ignorant and very very rude,
then. But also with very deep emotional
problems that you want to take out on the
rest of the owrld.
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samie
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2ferano
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Posted: 05-17-04 07:34am
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O.K samie, let's see you "prove" that a
fetus is a human being upon conception?
You cannot. It is all opinion. And
please, don't resort to quoting someone
and calling it fact. It simply makes you
look foolish.
At least I accept the fact that my
opinions are just that, my opinions. I
don't try to turn them into fact by
quoting someone.
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samie
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Posted: 05-17-04 21:41pm
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Yes but the people I quote are biologists
and they state its not their opinion but
that it is fact!
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 05-17-04 21:41pm
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They would, wouldn't they?
People used to state it was a fact that
the earth is flat! (some still do).
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samie
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Posted: 05-17-04 21:59pm
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I am not sure they did state it as fact.
So your saying that because no one had
been around it was fact it was flat...
Even though biology has clonned human
beings and studied life in all forms to
the point of being able to change genetic
disorders is exactly the same as those who
never experimented on the world saying the
earth is flat...No your argumetn dosnt
hold water sorry.
Some still say the earth is flat some
still say a zygote isnt a human being.
Some even say(peter singer) a new born
baby isnt a human being until 28 days
after birth. Is every step of life ones
own interpretation or does science tell us
who is alive - if so then why dont you
believe them when they tell you a zygote
is a living human being - maybe you want
to rationalise abortion.
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JanetBee
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Posted: 05-18-04 01:10am
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It is not a question of believing what
someone else says.
I believe a fertilised egg has human dna
and could in some circumstances become a
human being. But it is completely
ludicrous to me to say that a bunch of
cells is a human being. It simply isn't.
Other people belive different things.
Like, some people believe that a god
created the world in 7 days and the
dinosaurs never existed. This is
something they teach in some us schools!!!
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samie
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Posted: 05-18-04 01:44am
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Yes but we all believe certain facts.
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 05-19-04 06:37am
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Yes, each of us believes some things and
thinks they are facts.
Or are you saying that there are some
things that *everyone* believes is a fact?
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samie
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Posted: 05-20-04 19:08pm
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No I am saying somethings are facts
weather people believe them or not
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 05-21-04 02:13am
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Ah yes, back to ontology. Or if you
really do mean "weather people", then
meteorology.
But the weather around here has been
lovely lately anyway!
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2ferano
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Posted: 05-25-04 15:25pm
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Okay so if I form an opinion and I say
that it is a fact, then it is a fact?
Alright! Sounds good to me!
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