Small non-obstructing kidney stones Posted: 02-28-08 23:15pm
Hi Everyone,
I'm 48 year old and I have several small
kidney stones. Every couple of weeks I get
these awful pains. The pain is mainly in
the upper abdominal area which radiates a
little to the back. I had a Cat scan and
an x-ray done and it shows very small
non-obstructing stones. The urologist say
that he does not think that my pain is
coming from these stones because they are
not obstructing and they are very small.
My question is if is not stones than what
could it be? The pain it very intense that
at one time I had to call the ambulance.
Does anyone going through my similar
experience? I would like to hear from
anyone out there....Thanks
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Posted: 02-29-08 10:04am
Hi mommy2008
For the life of me I will never understand
why doctors say small stones don't cause
pain.
They can and do. Everyone's pain level is
different.
Stones are painful little buggers. I
posted in another thread about this.
Imagine a straw as your ureter tube now
picture a little pebble with pieces of
glass on it trying to get through that
straw. This is what the stone is trying to
do.
Also when the stone is moving in the
kidney and/or bladder it is bouncing
around in there poking you with the jagged
edges. So it will cause pain.
I could scream every time I hear this. I'd
like to know how many of these doctors
actually passed a stone.
I've had and still get stones of many
sizes,some I pass with little pain others
forget I'm cured up in awful pain.
Over time these stones can get bigger if
you don't pass them. Most stones are from
calcium oxalate. If you are not happy with
your doctor can you go to another one?
Do you drink a lot of coffee, tea, colas?
Eat chocolate?
There are other foods that can add in the
development of stones, also heredity plays
a factor.
The other thing is with stones people get
renal colic, spasms within the kidney.
This can occur with or without stones.
They are very similar to muscle spasms but
in the kidney,ureters and bladder.
Drink plenty of fluids and moving around
(walking) can help get the stones to
pass.
Some people suggest lemon juice and water.
There's a lot of different remedies people
try.
Hope you are feeling better soon.
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Posted: 02-29-08 17:34pm
As butterfly6169 writes there is renal
colic which does cause pain. I haven't
been diagnosed with stones, but I did have
an obstruction. It was painful. I had to
go to a urologist to be diagnosed. I hope
you feel better soon, too.
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Heartly
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Posted: 03-25-08 15:58pm
I have had kidney stones for about 20
years now. Ihave had stents, lithropsy
also.
I am glad to hear that someone feels like
me as says that small non abstructing
stones don't hurt. They do hurt very much
and when they are in the kidney and
bouncing around they cause they renal
colic. They hurt just as bad as if you
where going to pass one. I get stones
about every 2 months and some pass ,
others just stay in the kidney. I think it
is hard on my kidneys as my right kidney
is not functioning and my left is
functioning at 24%.
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Posted: 03-26-08 08:25am
Heartly
I feel for you. Is there anything we can
do for you?
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Posted: 03-26-08 16:33pm
Butterfly
Thank you for asking! Right now I am on
different high blood pressure meds and
they aren't working. The swithed me as I
was in the hospital twice in the last
month. The first time I went in I had
chest pains. So then they gave me a
stress test and I failed. So they did an
angiogram on my heart. Which turned out
ok. Thank god! But since I have had the
angiogram I have been having pain in the
groin and bladder. They can't tell me what
it is as they have done 3 cat scans that
should something but they said it was
probably just nothing. So now I have this
pain and they don't know what to do.
Doctors drive me crazy! The secound time
I was in the hospital I went in for a
blood clott in the arm and with my chronic
kidney failure the dye that they used for
the angiogram mad my kidneys gets worse.
The New Neph doctor wanted me to be put on
different meds for high blood pressure.
Now I am all out of wack. I have to sit
still for my blood pressure to stay some
what normal. When I move aroung I feel
like my heart is going to explode and I am
all shacky. My pusle has been running 99
to 135 . Which my normal is 63. My blood
pressure is 154/98. I can't stand how I
feel. I feel all out of breath. Plus I
also have pulmenary problems and I am only
41. I have restriction in the airways.
Well you ask if you could do anything just
listeneing is great. I will listen you if
you like as well as I know how it can be.
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Heartly
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Posted: 03-26-08 16:34pm
Butterfly
Thank you for asking! Right now I am on
different high blood pressure meds and
they aren't working. The swithed me as I
was in the hospital twice in the last
month. The first time I went in I had
chest pains. So then they gave me a
stress test and I failed. So they did an
angiogram on my heart. Which turned out
ok. Thank god! But since I have had the
angiogram I have been having pain in the
groin and bladder. They can't tell me what
it is as they have done 3 cat scans that
should something but they said it was
probably just nothing. So now I have this
pain and they don't know what to do.
Doctors drive me crazy! The secound time
I was in the hospital I went in for a
blood clott in the arm and with my chronic
kidney failure the dye that they used for
the angiogram mad my kidneys gets worse.
The New Neph doctor wanted me to be put on
different meds for high blood pressure.
Now I am all out of wack. I have to sit
still for my blood pressure to stay some
what normal. When I move aroung I feel
like my heart is going to explode and I am
all shacky. My pusle has been running 99
to 135 . Which my normal is 63. My blood
pressure is 154/98. I can't stand how I
feel. I feel all out of breath. Plus I
also have pulmenary problems and I am only
41. I have restriction in the airways.
Well you ask if you could do anything just
listeneing is great. I will listen you if
you like as well as I know how it can be.
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Posted: 03-26-08 19:53pm
Hi Heartly
I am so sorry to hear about your recent
hospitalizations and health issues.
Doctors drive me crazy also. The dye is
very dangerous even for people without
kidney problems. Are you taking anything
for the rapid heartbeat?
Did they give you a diagnosis of
tachycardia?
Do you see a pulmonary doctor also? The
pain in the groin sounds related to the
angiogram, maybe a nerve was hit during
the procedure.
Have the doctors ever mentioned doing a
kidney biopsy?
I've been through a lot also. Feel free to
pm anytime.