Pro-abortion people commonly say that it
is. "maternal mortality" is listed as
deaths of women per 100,000 pregnancies.
This figure has been commonly listed as
eleven, compared to deaths from induced
abortion, which are listed as one or two.
Therefore, they say abortion is seven
times safer. Not so! Maternal mortality,
in recent years, has dropped to seven, not
eleven.
But more important is the fact that,
included in maternal mortality, are all
deaths from induced abortions and ectopic
pregnancies. Included also in maternal
mortality are all women who die while
pregnant from almost any cause that is in
any way related to pregnancy. Different
states require longer or shorter lengths
of post-partum time, but, typically,
maternal mortality also includes any
related death within one year after
delivery
maternal mortality also includes deaths
from caesarean section. To compare
comparable risks, one would have to
compare the risk of being pregnant in the
first three months with the risk of having
an abortion within the first three months.
When compared in this fashion, abortion
is many times more dangerous. Actually,
it is probable that induced abortion is
more dangerous than carrying a baby to
term
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samie
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 665
Further Proof Posted: 05-13-04 19:11pm
Let’s look at the late 1950s. Those were
the supposed bad old days. All abortions
were illegal, and illegal abortionists
were alleged to be busy. In the july 1960
edition of the american journal of public
health, there was an article by Dr. Mary
calderone, founder of siecus and medical
director of the planned parenthood
federation of america. She stated:
"90% of illegal abortions are being done
by physicians. Call them what you will,
abortionists or anything else, they are
still physicians, trained as such; . . .
They must do a pretty good job if the
death rate is as low as it is . . .
Abortion, whether therapeutic or illegal,
is in the main no longer dangerous,
because it is being done well by
physicians."
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samie
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 665
Coat Hanger Abortions Posted: 05-13-04 19:12pm
Pro life have lectured nationwide on
abortion on an average of one city a week
for almost three decades. They frequently
ask the audience and pro choice groups to
provide documented proof of a self-induced
"coat hanger abortion". In all this time
no one has given pro life a single case.
It may well be — there never were any coat
hanger abortions
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samie
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 665
Large Amounts of People Obtain And Die From Illegal Abortion Posted: 05-13-04 19:19pm
On june 18, 1989, cnn world report, in an
hour-long documentary, stated that in
brazil there are 6 million illegal
abortions each year and 400,000 women die.
But the u.N. Demographic yearbook of
1988 lists only 40,000 women, age 15-44,
dying each year of all causes. Who is
lying?
In portugal the claimed figure was 2,000
deaths. The actual number of deaths of
females between the ages of 15-46 was
2,106 in the same year from all natural
causes, accidents and illness. There were
only 97 listed in the "complications of
pregnancy" of which 12 were due to
abortion, including spontaneous and
induced, legal and illegal.
In italy, the claimed figure before their
abortion referendum was 20,000. In the
age group 15-45, there were actually only
11,500 female deaths from all causes.
In germany the claim was that 15,000 women
died annually. In fact, only 13,000 women
of reproductive age died annually in west
germany, and less than 100 died of
complications of abortion, legal and
illegal
at the united nations habitat meeting in
istanbul, turkey, in june 1996, the
following "fact" was given wide publicity:
the unicef suddenly claimed that 585,000
women die each year from causes related to
pregnancy and birth.
The pro-life ngo’s for the family
immediately answered, "this is wild.
According to the u.N. Demographic year
book for 1990, the total known maternal
deaths worldwide for 1986 and 1987
numbered 11,924 (around 6,000 per year).
This figure encompasses countries covering
35% of the world’s population
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JanetBee
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 332
Posted: 05-13-04 19:35pm
I'm not sure what you think you are trying
to prove -- all these numbers prove that
childbirth is more dangerous than
abortion, but that is obviously not what
you intend is it?
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samie
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 665
Posted: 05-13-04 19:43pm
If you read it referes to pro choice
ilegal abortion figures and demographic
figures from the countries themselves -
proving the death rates from ilgeal
abortion in countries where abortion is
ilegal is nowhere near the figures
propsosed by pro choice nothing else as
these only refer to illgal abortions not
legal
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JanetBee
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 332
Posted: 05-13-04 19:45pm
I'm sorry, I don't understand your post
(i'm not being critical, I actually really
don't understand what you are saying).
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samie
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 665
Posted: 05-13-04 20:12pm
Ok
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JanetBee
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 332
Posted: 05-13-04 20:25pm
No, I don't understand if you are saying
the statistics are wrong, or only apply to
legal or to illegal abortions, I can't
make it out from what you wrote.
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 05-14-04 15:12pm
Just because "statistics" do not show any
coat hanger abortions does not mean they
did not happen. Who in the world is
going to just come up and say yeah, I did
that. Come on now. That is personal.
And I know personally of a case. So,
there goes that "fact"
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samie
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 665
Posted: 05-14-04 18:11pm
Do you believe in aliens as well? Or the
boogie man? Or bigfoot? Just because
statstics prove they dont exist dosnt mean
they dont
but should we go and hide in a cave in
fear of alien attacks should we never go
out in the dark and should we keep clear
of forests.
Should we permit abortions(genocide) just
out of fear some deranged person might
stick a coat hanger in themselves and
perhaps die.
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JanetBee
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 332
Posted: 05-14-04 20:28pm
I still don't understand -- is your post
saying that women don't die from illegal
abortions? Or are you saying that if they
do, they deserve it?
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samie
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 665
Posted: 05-14-04 22:05pm
I am saying pro choice lie about the
statistics to make abortion seem more of a
need than it is!
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JanetBee
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 332
Posted: 05-14-04 22:13pm
Anti-abortionists lie about everything.
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samie
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 665
Posted: 05-14-04 22:28pm
What?
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JanetBee
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 332
Everyone Should Read This Posted: 05-14-04 22:57pm
This is a long article, so I won't quote
from it, but it is pretty clear on who
lies and who tells the truth.
I admit I cant be bothered to read it so
just give an abridged version
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JanetBee
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 332
Posted: 05-14-04 23:02pm
Okay...Lies lies lies lies nothing but
lies from the anti-abortionists!
Except the bit at the end, where one of
them says that given the choice, no, she
wouldn't agree that aborting adolph hitler
was a good thing. That was definitely the
truth about anti-abortionists.
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