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oopoopoop
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Pregnancy As Invasion
Posted: 06-03-04 11:31am
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I am going to tell you why I believe that
abortion has to be available. As long as
I can remember, I have thought that
pregnancy is revolting. The entire
concept of having a growth, of another
being inside a woman, makes me physically
ill. I can't look at pregnant women
without feeling nauseated. When I saw
alien, with the creature coming out of
sigourney weaver -- that is what the idea
of childbirth is for me. It would be like
having cancer, a malignant tumour,
something that was eating me from
inside.
If there was no way of ensuring this
didn't happen to me, I could never have
had sex. I have always been diligent
using birth control, because the
consequences were so frightening, but I
also knew that if it happened, I could
have an abortion and be free and well
again. I have, fortunately, never been
pregnant. Perhaps this is some kind of
mental problem. And perhaps if I ever had
gotten pregnant, those peculiar hormones
would have calmed the revulsion. Even
thinking about it now makes me a bit
faint.
Yes, this is probably incredibly offensive
to some people, and I am sorry if anyone
takes it personally. But I find the idea
that I should be put through something
that disgusting for someone else's ethical
beliefs equally offensive. I am very
happy for all those people who get
pregnant and are happy, or don't mind too
much. But not everyone feels like you do.
If you don't understand how a pregnant
woman could be so suicidal that her life
was at risk, so be it. I can understand
perfectly.
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2ferano
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Posted: 06-03-04 13:58pm
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I know exactly how you feel. Some women
want nothing more then to have babies, and
more power to them. But, that is not
what all women want. I diligently take
the pill also and have also never been
pregnant. Thank god. I do have several
friends though who got pregnant young and
had abortions. I also have several
friends, many the same ones who had babies
young also. I look at their lives and I
look at mine and I really feel bad for
them. They have never and will never
know true freedom. But, god bless them
for having these babies. I, however,
cannot honestly say what I would have done
in the same situation. I am 25 years old
and can still say that I never, ever want
children. I love my life too much. I
love my freedom to do what I want when I
want. If I ever did want a child though
I would most likely adopt. I do not ever
want to be pregnant or give birth.
So, if I was raped, god forbid, why should
I have to go through with the pregnancy?
Simple, I shouldn't. And it is no one
else's business what I would do in that
situation. It would be a horrible
terrifying event in my life, and I should
not have to suffer further. No one,
especially a man who cannot become
pregnant anyway, has the right to tell me
that I have to have that baby! No one.
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samie
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Posted: 06-04-04 03:56am
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Homophobic - irrational fear of
homosexuals that leads to violence towards
homosexuals – politically incorrect
xenophobic – irrational fear of other
nations that leads to violence towards
foreign speaking people and ethnic
minorities – politically incorrect
fetalphobic – irrational fear of unborn
human beings that leads to violence and
kil ling of innocent people – currently
politically correct
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JanetBee
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Posted: 06-04-04 10:00am
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That is plain silly samie, since none of
the other cases are inside you , its not
like they are saying they want to kill
other people to get rid of fetuses.
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sparklypixie12
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Posted: 06-04-04 10:20am
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I guess i’m quite the opposite of you in a
way!! I’ve always adored the idea of
motherhood since my brother came along
when I was 8.I think about babies about
70% of my day! It gets annoying
sometimes! But I do go through stages
every few months when I don’t like the
idea either because the thought of
stretchmarks, getting fat, being in pain
and all that comes with it scares me and
also the fact that i’m a total prude who
wouldn’t want everyone looking down there!
The idea of getting pregnant now scares
me too because I have a great future and
career ahead of me.
I am not criticizing you for feeling this
way about pregnancy because it’s how you
feel & you can’t control it in the way
I can’t control how I feel. One of
reasons that i’m anti-abortion is because
I am in awe at the thought of conception
and how amazing it is that a woman can
carry and nurture a little person inside
her. This is simply an opinion though
(obviously!)
another point-my auntie died at 26 from
breast cancer leaving behind 2 small
babies  so i’m sorry but I
got upset when you compared pregnancy to
cancer i’m not trying to
offend you but i’m just saying its a harsh
image to create. No one chooses to have
cancer but some people choose to get
pregnant and when they do choose it is to
them a very special thing.
Liz
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JanetBee
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Posted: 06-04-04 10:58am
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That is very interesting, sparkly, I
remember reading that in general women who
think that having children is very
important are much more likely to be
against abortion, whatever their religion
or age or whatever, which sort of makes
sense.
Of course no one chooses to have cancer
(although it beats me how anyone can be
stupid enough to smoke!!) but if you were
trying very hard not to get pregnant, then
you weren't choosing to either. I think a
lot of the issue which has been said here
before is that abortion is not wanting to
be pregnant, it isn't about not wanting to
be a parent, because if that is the case
then you can give up for adoption.
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sparklypixie12
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Posted: 06-04-04 12:15pm
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Hi-yes I must agree that any woman ive
come across who is against abortion has
been one who really wants children. Any
of my friends who dont want children said
theyd be fine with abortion.
You made an interesting point which really
made me think when you said about why
people choose to smoke.It made me think
about the connection to my point about
people not choosing to have cancer.
I do know that not all birth control is
100% effective & so yes there is a
chance that a woman who's trying hard not
get pregnant may indeed end up pregnant.I
do acknowledge this but i'll always be
anti-abortion,thats just me :d
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2ferano
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Posted: 06-04-04 15:24pm
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Oh yeah like I said above, at least I
think I did, lol, some women live for
babies. Or at least absolutely love
being pregnant and being mommies.
But, then there are those of us who do
not.
And samie, that was very dumb and had
nothing to do with what poopoo said.
It is not a fear, it is just not wanting
to go through pregnancy! Just because we
are women does not mean that we were all
born to breed!
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JanetBee
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Posted: 06-08-04 15:54pm
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I've always believed that those who are
most homophobic are those who have latent
homosexual feelings that they are unable
to acknowledge. And racists just need
someone to feel superior too, since they
have no other reason...I think some
people's fear/hatred of abortion is a bit
like that...
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jessechaseme
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Posted: 06-09-04 02:04am
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Good points. I think we (women) are
socially trained to accept the idea of
motherhood. It's natural progression.
We get married, we have kids, we die.
There's your life... But there's so much
more you could be doing... Like taking
care of the 1.5million children who don't
get their basic need met and don't have
parents. Why not do some of that work?
Or travel, or cure cancer or.. Oh I
don't know... Finish high school...
Having a child is completly selfish and
self serving. Bottom line, lets work with
what we have... Do we really need more
people in this world?? Or do we just need
more taxpayers?
Jesse
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PattyV
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Fetalphobia?????!!!
Posted: 06-09-04 18:20pm
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Sigmund freud you ain't samie!!You made
that word up.Just as much as you want the
right to tell us(women) we should have
babies,we have the right to choose whether
we do or not.Some women don't have
children for many various
reasons-sometimes we just
can't.Don'tassume all childless women are
as such by choice.I happen to think
assisted reproduction is tampering with
god's plan.He/she knows better than I do
why i've never been pregnant.
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princess529_98
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Jesse
Posted: 06-09-04 21:02pm
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Jesse, just out of curiosity how is it you
figure that having a child is selfish and
self serving???
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2ferano
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Posted: 06-10-04 01:03am
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Yes, no one is going to tell me what to
do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Darnit!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not a breeding machine. If I get
married and my husband wants children then
he can find a way to have them.
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cicci
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Posted: 06-10-04 14:52pm
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Hi I know everybody is entitle to their
opinion, im just impressed on how you
girls think about pregnancy and babies
like is evil, I think personally is the
most beautiful gift that god could give
us, im preggy and im very happy.
Well I wanted to state my opinion.
Have a nice day
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jessechaseme
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Posted: 06-10-04 16:17pm
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Then go breed. We're not against that.
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jessechaseme
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Princess
Posted: 06-10-04 16:19pm
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What purpose does one more person serve?
Why not go adopt a child who is in need.
Why not foster a child who has no home if
you feel so compelled to interact with
children. Why do we need our own from our
own womb? We don't need more people on
this earth. That's why it's selfish.
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sparklypixie12
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Posted: 06-10-04 17:28pm
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Wow thats an extreme view.So people
shouldnt reproduce because its selfish and
will overpopulate the planet....I wouldnt
ignore my maternal instincts to save the
planet or put tax payers out of their
misery!
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cicci
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Posted: 06-10-04 19:31pm
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I agree with you girl and the other you
gave your opinion and everybody respected
you but you are not giving it back nice
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jessechaseme
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Sparks,
Posted: 06-10-04 20:30pm
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Just be sure you understand what is a
maternal instinct and what is
institutional conditioning.
Thanks,
jesse
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princess529_98
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Jesse
Posted: 06-10-04 21:32pm
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Well I disagree with you on this one.
Almost all your posts I have agreed on but
this one is insane. Saying woman who have
babies are selfish is nutts.I have no
problem with the ones that dont want
babies for whatever reason. Its there
life do with it as they wish but.. To me
selfish are the ones who dont want them
because they dont wanna give up there
freedom they dont wanna share there life,
they wanna do what they want when they
want and not have to worry about a child
being involved. Thats selfish and thats
my opinion..There are millions of children
out there that need adopted and there are
tons of couples out there who cant have
there own looking to adopt. I feel for
those kids I truly do. But saying its
wrong to have babies when theres many to
be adopted is wrong. People can still
have there own children and still adopt I
know of 2 familys who have done just
that.. I have 3 beautiful kids teenagers
actually and never once did I regret
getting pregnant with any of them. To
carry them for 9 months feeling them
moving,and kicking inside and hearing that
heartbeat every month was the greatest
thing in the world. Watching them grow
bigger and stronger with every year that
passes. And sitting back now all 3 out of
school and one getting married next year
we look and we say we did this we brought
up these beautiful loving kids. And I am
damn proud damn proud of what we have
accomplished. Someone said that a parent
will never know true freedom well ya know
what we raised those 3 kids they are
wonderful well educated kids who have alot
to look forward to in life and yes getting
them there wasnt always a easy task but we
did it and if that means giving up freedom
to do so then oh well thats a choice we
made and one that we have never regreted.
So you wanna call me selfish you go right
ahead have at it. You find pregnancy
revolting, makes you ill thats fine thats
you thats how you feel..You say your on
birth control thats not 100% you know that
maybe you might consider having your tubes
tied although that too isnt a 100% the
chances of not getting pregnant with your
tubes tired are better than being on the
pill. I would hate to see you use
abortion as a form of birth control. To
me thats revoltiing.
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