The european union has upped the anti in
the war on life with a 130 something votes
to 100 and odd in favour of including in
the proposed. E.U. Constitution a
woman’s right to have an abortion as a
basic fundamental human right. If this
happens abortion would have to be made
available in both ireland and poland who
have consistently opposed abortion and the
un attempts to make them legalise it. It
spells server bad news for european
pro-lifers; if the right is included in
the constitution restricting abortion will
be unconstitutional and irreversible
leaving the pro lifers high and dry.
However another proposition put before
the. E.U. Is to include in the
constitution christianity as a fundamental
basis of all laws of all member states and
rights of all citizens of the union this
would effectively give the pro-lifers the
opportunity to overturn any laws or rights
that is in direct conflict with
fundamental christian beliefs. The
proposition has many supporters in europe
which is made of mostly roman catholic
countries with only two countries so far
opposing it belgium & france – britain
has yet to voice an opinion.
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Some comments opposing the inclusion of
god and christianity:
according to worldnetdaily: "in an
editorial, scandinavia's largest daily
newspaper, the swedish aftonbladet, said
referring to christian values in the
constitution and placing them above other
values would be a 'huge mistake' because
it would 'exclude groups and raise new
walls'."
terry sanderson, vice president of the
uk's national secular society, told
euobserver "we are very glad a reference
to god has been left out, it would have
created unnecessary barriers in
europe...Europe has to be secular for it
to be really unified."
the european humanist federation
suggested changing reference to europe's "
'...Spiritual and moral heritage' into
'...The cultural heritage of europe's
history,' since our cultural heritage is a
pluralistic one and hence defeats the idea
of a single european identity." they
suggest that article 1 of the constitution
read: "the union is founded on the
principles of secular rule of law:
freedom, equality, democracy and
pluralism. It guarantees the respect and
promotion of human rights and fundamental
freedoms." 5
a british gay-positive group, the gay and
lesbian humanist association (galha)
stated that because of "increased
secularization of morality and public
life," they consider it pointless to
include god in the new charter.
Spokesperson terry sanderson said: "we are
not opposed to a clause that would
establish the freedom to practice
religion. "what we don’t want to see is
religion moving out of the area of freedom
and becoming predominant right there in
the beginning." he alleges that: "religion
is dying throughout europe." he blamed
"the church" for the suffering of gays and
lesbians "over the last millennium." galha
wrote: "to include references to god or
'our christian heritage' would be to start
turning back on our 500-year journey from
the enlightenment. Instead, we should be
proud of our progress, and growing
humanity." 3
socialist french deputy olivier duhamel
suggested that mention of christianity and
god is "absurd," because it would exclude
muslims and others of non-christian
faiths, as well as citizens who do not
believe in god. 7
linda mcavan, a british labour mep,
argued that a specific mention of
christianity "would offend those many
millions of people of different faiths or
no faith at all."
an humanist convention member from
ireland, dublin mep proinsias de rossa,
suggested that the inclusion of god would
be divisive: "it would be a mistake; it's
a serious mistake."
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JanetBee
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Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 332
Posted: 06-10-04 10:46am
The idea of including references to god or
religion in the european constitution is
disgusting. Religion is up to individuals
to follow or not, it is not an issue for
politics.
