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Sinsaint

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Posted: 06-11-04 16:29pm

I woke up that morning all excited about the days events. My husband and I both scheduled off work that day. We would sleep in a little, go get the ultrasound that afternoon and then go out to dinner to celebrate a boy or girl. I wanted a boy. The ultrasound went well. A little boy!! I was right!! Only 20 more weeks now. We went out to eat thinking we were so lucky. So what it took us over a year to get pregnant. We had done it and we were so happy. I ate well that night. Gotta feed the little tyke after all.

The following week I was ecstatic. I couldn't wait to tell my doctor that I was right. I guess it didn't matter much. His sex was the least of her worries. She explained to me what all was wrong. "what do you mean his liver isn't in the right spot? Why can't you find his kidney? How did his intestines get in his chest? How in god's name does he have a third lung? What do you mean you can't find his stomache?" what else could go wrong? "his heart? Fetal hydrops? Hernia? Cystic what? Please stop, please stop...... Please just stop. Not my son. Not my little boy. You are dead wrong.... Fetal demise.... Just stop!!!Stop it!!!" five days later I wondered what was going on. I laid down and felt my son kick. Maybe it would be the last time he ever kicked.

I went for more test hoping for the best. My heart was broken. It was far worse. No more room in his chest, his heart can barely beat. "why can't you just fix it?... Sorry, it doesn't work that way. His little body can't take anything more. Fetal surgery is out because your body can't handle it. He is still practice breathing which is always a good sign but that could stop. He is already showing signs of stress. His heart is still beating but the chambers are collapsing. We'll see how things are going next week. In the mean time if you notice he hasn't moved in a while, get to the hospital." next week? Next week!!!! So I had all week to run things over in my head. Babies don't die in this day and age. Medical technology is at it's height.

So in I go the very next week. "what do you mean I can't have him here? You are the largest hospital around. I thought you specialized in fetal defects?... We just don't have the equipment to care for him. You need to start considering other options. Your son is very sick. You are starting to show symptoms of his stress as well..... I've only gained a few pounds...Let's be realistic. You've gained close to 15 pounds. Your son is not doing what he needs to be doing with the amniotic fluid. He will continue to get worse and your health will be in serious jeopardy."

i sat for days crying. I want him so badly. Why won't he just fight this. My other options!!! I had to think really hard about what this was doing to me and everyone around me. I hadn't told our other children about the baby, at least not in the sense that he was inside me. Should I continue the pregnancy just to explain that their brother died? What about my husband? I could tell he wanted him but he was worried about me and he was worried about his son suffering. Should I make him watch our son die because it's what I want? Should I make our son suffer because it's what I want? What about my family? My mother loves her future grandson but she doesn't want me to die, especially if he isn't even going to make it. Can I even handle the stress anymore. I wake in the middle of the night just to poke at my stomache. I can't go but maybe ten minutes without feeling him kick and i'm suddenly scared that he's already dead.

Maybe it just wasn't meant to be. His little body can't take anymore and I can't take anymore either. Would I be so wrong to let my son die peacefully now or should I just continue the suffering?
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sparklypixie12

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Posted: 06-12-04 18:09pm

Crying
or Very sad
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purple333

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Posted: 06-13-04 02:54am

Sinsaint,

i had had 2 miscarriages before having my daughter then another miscarriage then a pregnancy, like you I was having a son, but like you he had serious health issues & would not have, could not have survived, so my husband & I chose to not put his little body through more pain, we terminated his life - even now over 13 years later - writing this i'm crying for my baby - actually all of them, I also lost another child 9 years ago a twin to the son I now have.

As a parent we must - always, no matter how hard it is for us or what we want - sometimes selfishly - we must do what is right for our child(ren) - if you saw your son alive outside of your body & he was suffering, dying & in pain & nothing could be done for him, what would you want for him, what would he want you as his mum to do for him - help him, release him from his pain & know that you made the hardest decision any parent can make but know it was made with love for your son, a love that you will never stop feeling.

My prayers are with you, yur husband & most of all with your son.. Pm me if you want.
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2ferano

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Posted: 06-14-04 02:24am

Sinsaint....I am so very sorry. I cannot imagine what you went through, are going through and how tough of a decision that was for you.

Situations exactly like yours are why abortion needs to remain legal. You could have died. Your little boy was suffering inside you. You did what you had to do, and don't let anyone ever tell you any different.

Once again, though, I am so sorry. Did the doctors have any reason for this? Heredity, genes, or just one of those unexplainable things.

Bless you
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samie

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Posted: 06-14-04 06:36am

Forgive me if I am wrong but I believe this to be a what if in disguise simply because if its true you could never be pro choice about abortion which we all know you are! To understand that the child in your womb is just that a child and then to say its ok to them is evil.


No matter how ill the child is health question is wrong.
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purple333

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Posted: 06-14-04 09:52am

Samie, just who are you saying that this is a what if in disguise to??
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samie

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Posted: 06-14-04 10:07am

Sinsaint. I might be wrong and I am sorry if I am.
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purple333

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Posted: 06-14-04 10:18am

Just for the record I am pro-choice & yet what I posted was totally true - not a what if - I wish to god it were. So samie, since my post is true & since I am pro-choice how can you say:

"if its true you could never be pro choice about abortion'??????????
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Sinsaint

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Posted: 06-14-04 14:02pm

Sorry samie. It's not a "what if" story. It's been almost three years to the day since I was first told of my son's condition. Having feelings that this was my son inside me did not negate the fact that I and my family went through hell and my then son would have to endure pain beyond your comprehension. But I never once considered "killing" my child. I did consider abortion but never to "homicide my child". I wanted to give him peace. I wanted to show him mercy. I wanted to spare his future pain. And I had too many concerns to count about what this was doing to the living people around me. Until you have been there you certainly cannot know. I was pro-life before my son. Now I am pro-choice, first and foremost for the women who have been in my situation. These were my feelings when I was going through this. How many more women today are going through this exact same thing? Would you deny anyone the right to show mercy toward another person?

It's people like you who think there is never anything wrong in the world that impose your "moral value" on others when, thruth be told, you have no concept of what a woman or her family may go through. When you have faced this situation yourself, maybe then we can talk. Until then, keep your opinions (emphasis on opinions since you have no first hand experience) to yourself.
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2ferano

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Posted: 06-14-04 15:25pm

Sinsaints situation is a perfect example of why abortion needs to be legal.
How can you say that there is no way she can be prochoice if her story is true? Her story is enough to make someone be prochoice.
Samie, you really need to get a clue.
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samie

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Posted: 06-15-04 04:46am

Sinsaint, all my appologies!




I am a big believer that everything happens for a reason, I can not comprehend how much pain you and your family went through and I know it wasn’t fair that it happened but we all know only too well life is never fair. We don’t always get what we want. Sometimes we get things we wouldn’t wish on our worst enemies.

I don’t know if you choose abortion or not but I will take it you didn’t. Your son has probably done more for mankind than you or I will ever do even though you let him live so he could. In his short existence he suffered so one day his brothers and sisters (in condition) might live.

He is a pioneer a great human being and he should be remembered as such and you were his mother you should be very proud. Life is never not worth living if you live life for others. Unfortunately not everyone does live that way but those who do are regarded as great people, if someone has to live that way through circumstances it doesn’t make them any less great than those who choose to live that way.




This is the reason why people who are pregnant with children who are disabled and ill shouldn’t health question them so that their son or daughters life wasn’t for nothing so they can know that their child has helped others. Yes it would be a tough thing to do but who said life was easy!



Some say abortion is a difficult choice and women who choose it are brave, this is a typical example of how its the easy option.
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Sinsaint

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Posted: 06-15-04 10:54am

You are a cruel and evil person. You believe a child should be born as a lab experiment. That is fine for someone who wants to do that but I am not about bringing children into the world to experience pain in the hopes it will benefit others. I did have my son because I selfishly wanted him. And he lived but the doctors didn't learn anything more about that defect that they didn't already know. This wasn't a teaching hospital. Only skilled professionals were allowed to work there. They didn't try anything new with him. They didn't make any astronomical discoveries with him. There was no radical new treatment that was tried. He was considered a "test case" because he had muliple defects but they learned nothing from him. He was just a baby that defied odds.

But there is nothing like touring the nicu and having the nurse tell you that they did have a baby with the same birth defect but he had passed away a few days before. But not to worry. If I come back in in early november they were expecting another one that I could see. (they wanted us to see all the equipment our son would be using so we wouldn't be alarmed). I saw that little boy after my son was born. He died.
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2ferano

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Posted: 06-16-04 03:33am

Some say abortion is a difficult choice and women who choose it are brave, this is a typical example of how its the easy option.

Easy option! How can you even say that? Sinsaints situation was in no way a typical example of an easy option. You are so diluted.
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samie

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Posted: 06-16-04 03:58am

So how is your son?

You see all that equipment the hospitals were using, they were developed for the likes of your son partly by children like your son who had gone before him, they may not have discovered much from your son but he survived due to others and others will survive because of him and in the future they may have all kinds of developments to help babies like your son. If you had aborted him it would be like saying they are not worth the effort, which you must know now children like your son are worth every effort.

I didn’t mean to sound as if he should suffer lab tests, that is not what I meant!
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