Is there anyone else using this to control their Lupus? Posted: 07-17-03 17:39pm
Hello All! I am a 29 year old who has been
diagnosed with Lupus for 3 years and sick
for a lot longer. I have had severe bouts
with my Lupus and been in and out of the
hospital...with my longest stay being 2
LONG weeks!
Anyhoo, this past fall/winter my original
Rheumy sent me to a specialist at UNC
Hospitals in NC. The specialist has helped
me a lot. I mean a lot.
However, this past visit (this afternoon,
in fact); she put me on a third Lupus
medicine. I am now taking each day 40 mg
of Prednisone, 3 grams of Cellcept and
Plaquenil (the new addition). Has anyone
out there taken this combination? If so,
what are some possible side effects?
I have taken Plaquenil before...just not
with the Cellcept.
Thanks in advance,
LadyBrannon
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sharon
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Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 191
prednisone Posted: 07-18-03 11:29am
HI , This is a reply about taking
prednisone for lupus. I've been on it
twice since '97. I went from a size 6 to a
size 16. It blew me up like a balloon!
Both times was after a bad bout in the
hospital. I swore I would never take it
again! I'm having alot of back and hip
pain, and my doctor told me yesterday I
needed to be put back on it. I was also
told that I would need to take it the rest
of my life! Not if I have any say so! I
am 5ft. 2in. and weigh 177lbs. My weight
has brought other problems along. High
blood pressure for one, depression also.
I've taken mussel relaxers that has made
me so.....druggy I could not function. I
can't live like that! I don't claim to
know all the answers, but there has been
only one thing that has helped me.
Herbalife. I'm not trying to sell it, I'm
not a dealer. It is very costly. But, I'm
telling you it worked for me. I'm not
taking it at pesent because of my
finances. But if I could afford it I would
be. I will never give in to my luous. I
like being active. I like to Quilt and do
crafts. I love to work in my yard, but had
to give it up because of the sun. Sorry
this is so long, but I had to vent! If
there is anyone who would like to e-mail
me,Please do. Thanks! Sharon
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LadyBrannon
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Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 506 Location: TX
Posted: 07-18-03 11:59am
Hi Sharon! Unfortunately, I know all too
well about the Prednisone. I have been on
it non-stop with high doses (some as high
as 150mg and none below 20mg) for going on
2 years. This past month, I was increased
back to 60 mg with a 500mg IV infusion!
As for my body, I have gained around 70
pounds. I like to joke that I am carrying
a fifth grader!
I have heard of Herbalife; I even asked
for it. However, my doctors absolutely
forbid it. Period.
What did your doctor say?
Thanks!
LadyBrannon
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Willa
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Joined: 22 Jul 2003 Posts: 1 Location: Poplar, MT
Lupus Posted: 07-22-03 12:39pm
Hi, my mother has recently been diagnosed
with lupus. She has been sick a lot
lately, this lupus has forced her to
retire early. Lately she has been in and
out of the hospital, she is in constant
pain, and cannot get around like she used
to. I need some answers on how do we cope
with this? She does live by herself, and
this last time the ambulance had to go and
get her, they couldn't get in the house
because she couldn't get up to answer the
door! But this is so hard to deal with, we
try and get her some help on either moving
in with us, but she don't want to leave
her house. She lives 80 miles from me, so
it is hard to go and check on her
everyday. The lupus is now in her back. It
started in her legs, her arms, she has no
strength. But we cannot seem to find any
help. We have field nurses, but the one we
have just seems to forget about checking
on my mom. My moms blood pressure goes sky
high, then it is normal, then it goes up.
Does any one have any suggestions or
places to go for help? We live in a remote
part of Montana.
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Teri
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Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 10 Location: New Jersey
Lupus Posted: 07-22-03 13:20pm
To LadyBrannon,
What kind of Lupus have you been diagnosed
with? Teri
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LadyBrannon
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 506 Location: TX
To Willa! Posted: 07-22-03 21:14pm
Hi Willa...please send my regards to your
mother.
This IS a very difficult disease to deal
with and I empathize. As for the not being
able to get around as well, there are a
couple of things that have helped me along
the way...
1) The NSAID (non-steroidal
anti-inflammatory drug) called Voltaren.
2) Another NSAID that I found helped for a
while was Mobic. I really liked this one.
On another note, be very careful about
giving her a drug called Celebrex. Many
Lupus patients react poorly to drugs with
Sulfa in them. This interaction (Sulfa and
Lupus patient) may even cause flares!
3) Once I got worse, I used/use strong
narcotics to control the pain now.
4) I also use hot tubs and warm baths! I
get very adamant about my warm soaks the
worse I get. And yes, I have been so bad
that I was not able to walk for days and
walked with a cane for months.
I hope this helps!
Lady Brannon
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LadyBrannon
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 506 Location: TX
To Teri! Posted: 07-22-03 21:27pm
Hi Teri!
I have Systemic Lupus with some organ
involvement.
My last 2 years have been the worse. In
February of 2002, I had my husband take me
to the hospital. I was in these for a very
long week. They let me out on Saturday and
on Sunday I relapsed. I relapsed on a
freaking 100 mg of Prednisone! My doctor
was appalled!
I muddled through never really pulling out
of the flare. She told me that she did not
think she could help me anymore and sent
me to UNC Hospital in Chapel Hill, NC. I
am thankful, everyday, for her doing that.
My new doctor had my kidneys in remission
in about 2 months. Unfortunately, my skin
and joints are not. About a month ago, I
began rashing stupidly again. And when I
say stupidly...I mean stupidly. I get
these well-defined concentric circles that
cover my entire body until I have no
normal skin left. To head this off, I,
under previous instructions from my
doctor, took 60 mg of Prednisone to get
myself under control and called her the
next day. Four days later, I was still
getting new rashes...So, she gave me a
500mg steroid infusion and kept me on the
60mg of Prednisone.
I am still rashing, but she recently added
the Plaquenil to get the pain and rashes
under better control.
I hope this is what you wanted to know,
LadyBrannon
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Teri
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 10 Location: New Jersey
Lupus Posted: 07-23-03 13:11pm
Hi LadyBrannon : I certainly understand
what you are going through, just hang in
there, I have friends who have this and
unfortunately they do not like to go on
line, one of my friends have been
diagnosed with the same as you and is
doing incredible. I would like to give
you the name of the Doctor that is helping
her. He is the top one in New York for
treating Lupus. Maybe you can give him a
call and talk to him about it because you
live far away and it might be worth it for
you just to give him a call. He is the #1
Rheumatologist in New York, his name is
Dr. Spiera and his office is on Park
Avenue. He had treated me for lyme
disease a few years ago. Will you be
interested for his number? Teri
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LadyBrannon
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 506 Location: TX
To Teri Posted: 07-25-03 12:09pm
Teri:
That is so kind of you! I would greatly
appreciate ANY information you can give.
Also, since your friends do not like
online, do they like private e-mail or
phone calls? Talking to people who
understand is so important!
Please send my regards to your friends and
THANK YOU!
LadyBrannon
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sharon
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 191
Herbalelife Posted: 08-01-03 22:19pm
Hi Lady Brannan, Sorry about the delay.
Modem went out! My doctors in Texas were
all for it! They couldn't believe how well
my lupus responded. I've never felt better
than when I was taking it. Even The
Neurologist said it was helping with my
Epilepsy. My husband has a very rare heart
and lung disease that should have killed
him by now, but when he was taking
herbalelife he improved by leaps and
bounds! He was able to get off the
transplant list. His doctors said if it
works, take it! I took celebrex for over a
year till it just wasn't working for me. I
was put on Bextra for a short time but It
wasn't working at all! It's getting harder
for me to get out and do anything. I went
shopping with a friend yesterday and I'm
payor it today. I'm starting to feel like
the tin man on Wizard Of Ox,I creak when I
walk !
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LadyBrannon
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 506 Location: TX
Herbalife... Posted: 08-01-03 23:02pm
Wow! You guys must be ecstatic!
Celebrex? Do you have Lupus? If so,
Celebrex is one that is typically AVOIDED
because of Sulfa! Sulfa has been known to
cause flares in Lupus Patients. I know I
certainly cannot take it...
Sorry about your modem! I hope all is well
now!
LadyBrannon
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PattiT
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Joined: 11 Nov 2003 Posts: 5 Location: Oregon
Cellcept Posted: 11-16-03 20:38pm
I have lupus sle and diabetes I am on oral
meds and 2 kinds of insulin. My rheumy
has had me on 1000mg of cellcept in the
morning and 1000mg at bedtime, I also take
prednisone. When I started with cellcept
in january I was taking 20mg of prednisone
a day, I am now down to 9mg a day and have
been able to tolerate the cellcept. In 8
months I dropped 11mg of prednisone. My
cbc tests are good. Even though the meds
are working I still have flares, but this
is the best i've felt in 3 years.
I have never been on plaquinil but I know
you need to have your eyes checked more
frequently. Any change at all in your
sight you need to go to your eye doctor
immediately. For me, my rheumy said my
lupus was really bad, I needed something
that would get in my system right away. I
understand plaquinil takes a month to
start working. I've been on just about
every lupus med there is.
Cellcept is the only lupus med i've taken
that helped me drop my prednisone. I too
gained weight, 35 lbs, from the
prednisone. I probably will be on
prednisone the rest of my life, but if I
can keep the dose under 10mg it's a little
easier to keep the weight down. I
recently lost 15 lbs but I found out I had
bacteria in my lower stomach which made me
nauseous all I could eat was soup. It
definately wasn't the way I wanted to lose
weight. The antibiotic has just kicked in
so i'll see how my weight goes.
Hope this helps a little. :d
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LadyBrannon
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 506 Location: TX
Posted: 11-17-03 22:06pm
Thanks again, patti!
I take 1.5 mg of cellept in the morning
and again at night.
Right now, I am back on 70mg of steroids.
I had a bad, bad week! *sigh*
the cellcept is working on the kidneys,
but nothing else. I see the doctor
tomorrow. I'll let you guys know how it
goes!
Hugs,
ladybrannon
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marysmith143
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Joined: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 14 Location: Blanchard, Michigan
Prednisone Posted: 11-19-03 13:51pm
I see allot of us have on been on
prednisone and plaquenil. Have the done
bone density on you ladys? Has the
plaquenil changed you eyes at all? After
I was taken of prednisone I had to have my
bones checked and I am in the early stages
of osteoporosis. Plain what the cellcept
is? Hope you are feeling well now,mary
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LadyBrannon
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 506 Location: TX
Posted: 11-19-03 13:57pm
Yep, had mine done! Lol!
I still look all right. Thank goodness.
My eyes are doing well too. I have more
problems from the diabetes with my eyes
than the plaquenil!
Hugs,
ladybrannon
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sharon
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 191
Eyes Posted: 11-19-03 18:21pm
I had miine tested here resantly also. It
was fine.
I have alot of problems with my eyes. So
does jenn. I'm not sure if the predizone
is to blame or just having lupus.
Sharon
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becky0424
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 13 Location: florida
Hey Guys Posted: 11-14-05 19:54pm
I have been on all of them- plaquenil made
me sick, I was on cellcept for probly 8
months- 2000mg- didnt help at all. Then I
got sick and couldnt take any of my meds
for about a month- I was throwing up,
couldnt keep anything down- I asked my doc
if I could just go back on prednisone- so
now, that I am not on all the other drugs-
I feel better than I have in years! I am
on 10 mg of prednisone a day. And I too
had gained 35 pounds from taking high
doses- I still have 10 to lose!!
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brenda49
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Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 6 Location: greenville,n.c.
to All Who Have Lupus Good Luck Posted: 11-27-05 03:47am
Hello, I am so glad I found this site! I
have had sle for 15yrs good days and bad.
I make the most out of good and do the
best I can on bad days. I have just
found about cellcept I saw my rhemuy on
nov 8 did labs we r going to talk about me
getting off of pred.. I hate that drug
I have mild kidney failure so whatt I have
read sounds good. I dont know what he
will think about it. I to have been able
to manage my weight oon 10mgs of pred but
for som e reason after I had my gall
bladder out I cant seeem to drop any if I
do it will come right back. I dont eat a
whole alot. Mind is fluid I cant take
laxics they effect my kidneys I take
dyaside when needed. I wanted him to ck
my thyroid ths t4 my sister was dign.
With hypo and hyper with graves dis.Last
yr. My mother had thyroid probl. Some
of the symtoms I had. I had a sister
older who had lupus she passed away at 62
her rhemy was no good. I have a first
cousin who has lupus she lost her leg 3yrs
ago due to a staff infectin. I think
lupus is heritary. Sorry so long needed
to vent right now my face is blowed up.
Brenda foreman :wink:
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becky0424
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 13 Location: florida
Posted: 11-27-05 09:06am
Sorry to hear about your face! I hate
that. I ended up just recently getting
sick- I was getting off of my prednisone
and asked the doc if I could go down 1
pill. Well the nurse told me he said to
go down 1 pill a day-and I knew that it
was wrong because ive been on them long
enough to know you cant just stop. But, I
wanted to be off of them so badly I did
it- I almost went into shock, and went
into withdrawls, was throwing up and
couldnt eat or take any meds. While
throwing up so much I ripped something in
my back and couldnt move for about 3
weeks. It was terrible. So now im back
on 10 mg and nothing else- I feel better
than I have in a long time, I still have
those days where I wake up and feel like I
have gotten hit by a truck- but I still
get out of bed and try to get out, that
usually makes me feel better- im glad
youve ound this site too- its nice to talk
to someone going through the same things.
I was excited when I foung this site too-
but then nobody seems to ever respond. :(
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ladyt
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Joined: 30 Sep 2005 Posts: 17
Posted: 12-05-05 13:01pm
Hi becky and brenda...I am pretty much
going through the motions with my lupus
also. For one I took plaquenil for about
2 months and my eyesight went from 20/20
to whatever is bad!! I took a serious
toll on my eyes in a very short period of
time. I haven't had any bad experiences
from prednisone though. One of the things
I go through is what is called synovitis.
My elbow joints lock and prevents me from
extending my arms. Sometimes it's in one
elbow and sometimes it's in both. It's
very painful and sometimes embarrasing.
Say i'm at the drive thru window...Well if
my elbows are locked I can't extend them
all the way, which means I would have to
open my car door and almost get out to pay
and get my food. Just think of how people
look at me when I do that. It looks like
i'm flat out handicapped. It goes away
for a few days then comes back. Also I
have what is called pericarditis...It's
where the sac that my heart sits in
retains fluid..Making it painful to
breathe regularly. This is also caused
from lupus. I am only 24 years old and I
have just had the worst 2 years ever. I
try to make the best out of everyday but
it's always something that tries to stop
me from doing that.
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