For the longest time i've had a lazy eye.
When I was very young it was detected, and
the doctor suggested patching it. My
memories are very hazy (i was very young)
but since I still have this condition I
must have not finished treatment. Anyway,
I always hear people with lazy eyes say
that their vision is very poor in the
other eye. For me this isn't the case --
it's actually very good, just my brain
refuses to use this eye. I searched up
and down the internet for a cure, but
being 18 years old, everywhere I go I see
these things saying if you are over 6
years of age I am just wasting my time.
But my question is, since I still have
pretty good vision, is there a way to make
my eyes work together some how? I have
very annoying double vision and I cringe
when I see photos of myself with my eye
wandering every which way. I was thinking
of even patching it more but I was
recently reading a forum that this would
make my eye worse. I dont understand this
at all!
So is it hopeless? Or is there something
I can do? Should I patch again?
If there is no hope; in that case anyone
have any tips to help me overcome the fact
that talking to people in face to face
coversations is very awkward because one
eye is wandering around like crazy. I
really dont know how I can go on in life
with this huge barrier. I mean before I
started gettign my double vision I loved
to talk to people and just stare into
their eyes; now I always find them looking
away and it always turning into an awkward
situation. Even I was to become
comfortable with my condition (while I
really doubt I ever will) I will always
feel sorry for the people that are forced
to look at me. Any suggestions ?
Sorry if im not making much sense. Im
very stressed right now.
All comments, suggestions, and even
questions are more than welcome!
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miller2190
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 58 Location: GA
Posted: 07-31-04 11:55am
Talk to your eye doctor, theres a surgury
you can get, usually covered by insurance.
Theyll put you to sleep, its an
out-patient surgury so youll leave the
same day, no biggie. The surgury prolly
wont make it perfect, but alot better than
before.
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lou ketta
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 18 Location: las vegas
Lazy Eye Posted: 10-17-04 16:30pm
My son had the surgery at 12 yrs old.He is
now 19 and handsome as ever!Perfect
straight eyes.He had it bad too in both
eyes.
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LadyUK
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 2 Location: England
An Adult Who Recently Had the Surgery. Posted: 10-25-04 05:57am
I am 29 years old and had the surgery to
correct my lazy eye last december here in
england - I moved here years ago with the
forces and stayed.
I was never offered this surgery in the
usa, and most doctors still do not discuss
this surgery in the usa. I have family
members who have went on to tell friends
and families about my success with this
surgery and I will now explain it to
you.
All of my life I suffered with eye
problems and my "lazy eye" (in england
they call this a "squint"). I would do
things liike cprrecting it with posture -
always tilting my head to one side. It
caused me much concern growing up, and I
was always told that it was a condition I
was born with, and there was nothing I
could do to correct it. I always ensured
that people sat to the right of me, my
left eye not turning left at all and
somewhat inward, it made socialisation
difficult. I knew that I was attractive,
people always commented on my beauty, but
it always seemed unreal to me - I hated my
eye and how I could never take a photo
unless the camera was "just so" in order
to hide it. I would take hundreds of
photos of myself if I needed a photo for
work or something, and maybe, just maybe,
I would get a few where I wasnt
"squinting". I remember crying in the
bathroom when going to 3d films because I
couldn't see in 3d and didn't understand
what the hype was about. I remember
visiting art galleries (i love art) and
wishing to be able to enjoy them fully.
It was mentioned to me by a colleague that
she had the surgery to correct hers in her
late 20s and she wanted to get her wedding
photos re-taken now that her eyes were
okay (all of her wedding photos were
facing away from the camera).
I then went to see my gp (family doctor)
in the uk and asked him about it. He
said that there was no reason I couldn't
go forward with the surgery and he gave me
a referral to the local orthoptist, mr
innes.
I was seen by mr innes, who did lots of
tests on my eyes, and then determined that
I was a good candidate for surgery. He
booked me in on the waiting list, and I
was very excited. I knew that it was an
18 month wait, but hey, what was 18 months
compared to 27 years?
Finally the day came - I had my surgery
scheduled for early december 2003. This
was the best decision I was to ever make!
They explained that during the surgery,
they would snip the muscle that is
attached to my eye and move it back a few
millimeters. If it was not enough, he
could go back in to take more off, or to
try and re-position the muscle if need be.
This would give me better movement with
my eyes, allow me to see in 3d, and be
able to take a decent photo for a change
(without sunglasses on).
I remember waking from the surgery. I
didn't have alot of pain, just discomfort,
as can be expected. When they removed
the bandages, my eyes were very sensitive
to light and teared an awful lot.
For the first time in my life, I could see
in 3d! This was overwhelming to say the
least! I had to learn to look at things
so differently now, my spacial awareness
was so different as well - I still bump
into things all of the time.
This feburary, I went to the national
portrait gallery of london and was able to
see some of the beautiful art in full
perspective.
Then, in april, I went to the imax to see
a 3d film. Although it was meant to be a
documentary about bugs and light-hearted,
I cried through most of it - I could see
it and understood what all of the hype was
all about. The colour, the feel, the
vibrancy, it was all so beautiful!
I have since been to the tate modern
gallery (art) twice, and to the royal
acamdemy of arts, the british museam, and
many many others. I frequent many
galleries often, and appreciate my newly
founded vision every day.
I went back to mr innes for a checkup 6
months after the surgery. After numerous
tests, it was revealed to me that my line
of vision went from a negative 47 to about
-3. That is an imporovement by fourty
four points! The normal range would be
0, but I am ever so grateful. I do get
some double vision when looking to the
right still, but that will improve in
time. My brain has to learn how to see
again, and how to make it all line up.
If you want to see what my eyes look like,
you can visit one of my websites at www.Lushhh.Says.It
i can only recommend that you go forward
with the surgery, and that your experience
is as wonderful as mine!
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eyeguy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 7
Posted: 12-06-04 08:03am
Hi guys,
thanks for the replies. I know this
thread is really old, but I found it from
a googl search - go figure!
Anyway, I thought I would bring you my
update. Things are still the same, but I
manged to get my family eye doctor to
schedule me with an appointment with a
specialist. This was about 5 months ago,
the appoint is in 2 months (long wait!).
Note that i've already done this before, 2
years ago, and I had a 8 month wait.
That time, I spent all day doing tests,
and the girl simply told me that she could
do surgeory, but she didn't want to,
because she thought it was for "cosmetic
reasons." this bugged me!
Every day for 8 months I couldn't wait for
to see this specialist, and then the day
finally comes and then i'm told this. It
was a huge disappointment.
So hopefully the new specialist will be
more helpful. 2 months to go! Hurray!
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Gary13
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 12 Location: Austin, Texas
An Update? Also: Comments And Advice Posted: 02-02-05 14:56pm
Any update, eyeguy?
If one specialist feeds you a
disappointing answer, consider seeing a
different one. You can talk to two
different specialists of roughly equal
experience and get different responses.
If you can, find out what training your
specialist has had. If what I heard is
true, the best specialists in strabismus
in the states can be traced back to a
handful of doctors who trained together in
the 60's and 70's. Presumably they have
trained a generation of students
themselves. Try to find the best, most
experienced specialist you can find even
if you have to travel several hours for
your appointment. Ask about the
specialist's success rates with surgery as
well as the measure of "success", and be
sure to ask about best case and worst case
scenarios. Write down a detailed history
of your medical history and symptoms
before your appointment. You may be given
eyedrops to dialate your eyes on your
first visit, so find someone to drive you
back. Bring sunglasses.
Regarding the efficacy of surgery,
different doctors i've asked over the
years have given different opinions. Some
doctors or medical techs have suggested
that I would have fused vision soon after
getting surgery, but in my estimation
these were less experienced doctors who
assumed the surgery works equally for
everyone. There is some possibility that
your vision could get worse after surgery
and you would need to have the muscles
adjusted again.
My online reading suggests that in some
cases surgery will *not* cause vision to
magically fuse, as I suspect is true in my
case. To my understanding, my vision
never fused during the early months of
development, therefore it is unlikely that
it will do so in the future. (i could be
wrong, but nothing i've tried so far has
worked.) your chance of success with
surgery will depend on your medical
history: did you have strabismus at an
early age? Have you experienced fused
vision?
My subjective experience of the condition
is different from that of others. I have
some advantages that others with
strabismus don't have. My right eye is
near-sighted but can be corrected with
lenses. I have continuous vision out of
both eyes, though I "concentrate" out of
one eye at a time. There is a "ghost"
image in the center of my field of vision,
but I don't notice this too often. I have
good control over my eyes and can
straighten them for pictures. Sometimes I
straighten, sometimes I don't. Like
others who have divergent strabismus and
the use of both eyes, I have
extraordinarily good peripheral vision.
As far as your discomfort in speaking to
others is concerned, my suggestion is
this: don't compensate. If you can help
it, don't tilt your head. If you look at
someone straight with one eye, the person
figures out soon enough which eye to look
at. People i've known for a while
typically say they hardly notice my lazy
eye even though the angle of divergence is
fairly wide.
Here's a biggie: people who judge you
according to the appearance of your eyes
generally aren't worth knowing. People
will find you less attractive if your eyes
aren't straight--let's just face
facts--but there's more to appearance than
just the eyes, and there's more to you
than what one gets from a quick first
impression. Making that first connection
may take a little extra effort on your
part, but just do it.
As is the case with others with
strabismus, I am sensitive about the
condition even if I don't like to admit
it. See my recent posting about the use
of the word "walleyed" in an editorial in
the austin, texas newspaper.
Do I wish I didn't have strabismus? Sure.
But I go about my day, make friends,
date, and do what I can. I'm not
disappointed about not seeing 3d movies,
frankly, because most of them tend to suck
as far as the plot is concerned. I'm an
arts enthusiast and I enjoy 2d and 3d art.
Partly because of my vision i'm
fascinated with art that crosses over from
2d to 3d.
My advice at the end of this long post:
keep your chin up, look straight ahead,
find out as much as you can, and then make
an informed decision about what if
anything you'd change.
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eyeguy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 7
Posted: 02-02-05 20:37pm
Gary, this sounds corny, but the advice
you give really really does help, and I
really appreciate your reply. It has
been 2 weeks (after a long long wait)
since I saw the specialist. He said "yes
you definately should have corrected this
with your doctor years ago." and told me I
was a good candidate for surgeory. But
he's the part the stinks; I live in canada
and although you hear rumours about our
wonderful health care system, it really
really isn't that great. He's referrings
me to *another* specialist, who
specializes in strabismus (however it's
spelled). It has been 2 weeks and I
havn't heard anything from either of the
doctors, i'm starting to wonder if they
forgot about me. The waiting lists here
are *long*, it could be up to another year
before anything actually happens. Even
then, my eyes may not be perfectly
straight. And if my eyes turned in once,
what's preventing this from happening
again?
I have one last question is this: I find
others very uncomfortable to look at me
when I am talking to then. Even my own
parents won't look at me. I don't know
what the proper etiquitte here is, to
stare away (not at them), or cotinue to
stare at them even if they feel
uncomfortable?
Anyways, thanks again everyone.
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Gary13
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 12 Location: Austin, Texas
Glad to Be of Help Posted: 02-02-05 22:01pm
Eyeguy:
i'm glad my comments were of some help.
In my opinion, you should never look away
to "spare" someone. If the person you are
talking to is uncomfortable, my suggestion
is to offer help. Tell the person, "hey,
if you're not sure which eye to look at,
try this one." building up the confidence
to say this could be hard for you. Try
blurting it out before you have time to
think about it.
Under no circumstances should you
apologize, though. Having strabismus
isn't something you asked for, so why
apologize? It'd be like apologizing for
cloudy days. Life is short. There's
little worth being embarrassed about, and
I don't think strabismus is it.
But . . . If someone treats you
differently because of your strabismus,
then they've made a choice, perhaps a
conscious one, to treat you differently.
Rather than get too mad or upset--unless
they intentionally insult you, in which
case i'd rather not give advice--try to
remember that people can be surprised by
someone or something they don't see very
often, so their reaction may be simply
that: a reaction. They, too, may not be
sure what to do because they don't want to
insult you.
If by some chance the person you're
talking to wants to discuss your
strabismus, it'd probably be best to
remain as matter of fact as you can rather
than describing how it makes you feel.
To respond to your question about looking
at someone during a conversation, you
don't necessarily need to stare. Try to
do what comes naturally and look at the
person when it's appropriate during a
conversation. Looking away too much can
make it uncomfortable for both parties.
Sometimes when i'm at a table with several
people clustered around, someone may get
confused when they're not sure if i'm
talking to him (left eye) or to her
(unattended, outward turning right eye).
At first I may try to throw the person's
name back into the conversation to
indicate who i'm talking to (e.G. "know
what i'm talkin' 'bout, george?"). If
that doesn't work, i'll be more
straightforward.
Making a recommendation about how to
approach your parents is difficult, but
i'll give it a shot. Try to talk to your
parents openly about your strabismus and
(to some extent) how you feel about it.
Be sure to tell them they shouldn't feel
guilty about not looking you in the eye,
but you would prefer it if they didn't
look away since this makes you
uncomfortable. If you don't feel right
talking to your parents about this,
perhaps you could ask a family friend to
talk to them about it.
If you ever watch bernie mac's comedy show
you may notice that one of his eyes
appears to turn outward in some shots
(which could be strabismus, exopthalmia,
or simply the fact that some people with
normal vision have eyes that turn slightly
outward). His crew doesn't reshoot these
scenes. He doesn't make an issue of the
matter, nor (in the episodes i've seen)
does he call attention to it. Go,
bernie.
If by some strange chance of fate I appear
on tv some day, I would like to state for
the record that I don't plan to look away
from the camera. (this assumes I wouldn't
have tried elective surgery to see if
there's some chance I could finally have
the "fused" 3d vision various folks seem
to think is so nifty.)
perhaps it's in my character as an
engineer/scientist/techie to view
strabismus as an interesting problem to
discuss and perhaps even to solve, but I
won't assume that everyone else is as
comfortable discussing it as I am.
To wrap up, i'd be more than happy to
offer whatever other advice I can,
including practical advice for dealing
with the situations that can give people
with strabismus trouble. Although i'm not
a pro or even semi-pro by a long stretch,
i'm a much better pool player than the
average joe or jane, which should suggest
that this condition isn't a complete
impediment. (i would never admit to
playing pool for money, but if
hypothetically speaking I had played for
money, I would be happy to report that I
made more than I lost.)
seriously, though, i'd be happy to offer
practical advice about driving (e.G., look
over both shoulders when you can rather
than relying on mirrors), trying to hit or
catch a ball (go for sports with larger,
slower moving balls), or whatever. I've
dealt with strabismus for all of my 30+
years, and i've given a lot of thought
about how to compensate for this or that
difficulty.
- gary
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eyeguy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 7
Posted: 02-02-05 22:34pm
Again gary, it's nice to hear about
someone else in my shoes.
You say you've had this condition for 30
years, have you ever tried to fix it?
(just curious). Do your eyes get
progressively worse over the years? Are
your eyes only horizontally out of align
or do you have some vertical misalignment
as well?
I *have* seen bernie mac's show, and I
thought I noticed his eyes as well. I
thought I just had strabismus on the mind
:0)
i'll take your advice for talking to my
parents / friends. Maybe they just think
it makes *me* more comfortable because I
don't have to look them in the eye (i once
told them focusing on things too distant
was awkward because of the double
vision).
For sports, yeah I know what you're
talking about :) soccer, volleyball,
anything with a large ball is fun and easy
to play. But people often don't
understand why I absolutely suck at
baseball. Sometimes I tell them I have
no depth perception, but I don't think
they know what that means.
Again, it means a lot to me that you've
the taken time to respond and give very
helpful advice. No one around me has
experience with my condition, so I never
get to get things like this off my chest.
Finally I have :)
thanks.
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Gary13
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 12 Location: Austin, Texas
More About Strabismus Incl. Personal History, Etc. Posted: 02-03-05 00:27am
Eyeguy:
i had my last surgery when I was seven, if
I remember correctly. I had previously
had surgery to correct an inward-turning
eye.
During my last visit to an ophthalmologist
I tried using a fresnel (flat) prism on
one lens of an old pair of glasses. The
prism emulated what I would see if my eye
were straightened. I went outside with a
rubber ball and tried to walk around,
throw the ball up in the air and catch it,
and so on. The experience was confusing
because the double vision was worse and I
couldn't ignore it.
Though some have reported having their
double vision disappear after corrective
surgery, in one message board I recall
reading that one person reported getting
*triple* vision after surgery. This may
sound like a joke, and doctors may say
it's silly. If I close one eye I
sometimes get the sense that I still have
double vision in the single open eye.
This has to do both with my brain's manner
of compensating and with my expectations,
i'm sure. Unfortunately this is a
difficult point to argue because
experience with strabismus differs from
person to person, and those who don't have
strabismus probably have a difficult time
understanding what it's like to have it.
Now that digital imaging tools are cheap
and easy to come by i've considered
creating a sort of slide show to
illustrate what the world looks like to
me.
Regarding my eyesight and visual acuity:
my eye may have turned out more over the
years, but i'm not certain. (warning!
Advice from a non-doctor to follow!) I
heard from one eye doctor that exercises
performed daily over a period of six weeks
or more could help reduce the angle of
deviation. Consult at least one
ophthamologist with expertise in
strabismus before trying any exercises.
Over the past four years my prescription
has hardly changed except for a slight
(0.25 diopter) change in astigmatism in
one eye. When I was younger I recall
sneaking a peak at the doctor's report and
reading that I had "progressive myopia".
Well, my near-sightedness isn't all that
bad, and it's hardly changed in 20 years.
My current prescription is -2.75 in the
right eye (strong correction) and -0.50 in
the left eye (weak correction). In 1987
my prescription was -2.50 and (?) +0.25.
For grins I reviewed my medical records.
Here's some history of my condition and
treatments:
1976 - 1977: surgery for bilateral
inferior oblique recession; surgery for
right medial & right lateral rectus
recession
1992: visit to children's hospital of
chicago, ophthalmology division
"correction might have been possible 20
years ago"
"left eye is gradually deviating further
out"
"unless for cosmetic reasons, surgery not
recommended"
(though I wasn't a child by any stretch of
the imagination in 1972, the children's
hospital facility was recommended.)
i haven't found the most recent
measurement of the deviation, which is
mostly horizontal (30 degrees?) and
slightly vertical (~ 5 degrees). It's
more pronounced than what you see in the
image here:
http://en.Wikipedia.Org/
wiki/strabismus
re: "no depth perception." you must have
*some* depth perception, otherwise you
wouldn't be able to get around except by
touch. Granted, your depth perception and
mine is poor, but by unconsciously relying
on visual cues such as size, shading, and
apparent speed we can determine whether
most objects are near, far, or at a middle
distance. This, in any meaningful sense
of the phrase, is perception of depth.
I heard the phrase "no depth perception"
over and over again myself while I was
growing up, but later a psychology
professor pointed out that I must have
some ability to perceive depth. In fact,
I don't think the difference between
normal depth perception and our depth
perception is as great as some people
assume. This isn't quite flatworld vs.
Sphereworld. But hey, I only know what I
see. Your results may vary.
Regarding ball sports: if I happen to jump
a cue ball off the table when i'm playing
pool and if someone else picks it up, I
make a point of telling the person right
away not to throw it. Otherwise I have to
do a little bob-and-weave with my head to
figure out where the ball is in the air,
and about half the time I don't catch it
anyway. As far as pop flies in baseball
go, well . . . That's a problem. I've
wanted to have people tell me "run
forward!" or "run backward!" when i'm
playing outfield, but this isn't too
convenient. By sticking with aiming
sports (pool/snooker/billiards, target
shooting with gun & bow) I do well
because i'm not trying to catch the same
thing i'm shooting. Thankfully.
According to a few sources i've read,
including http://www.Strabismus.Org/,
strabismus affects as many as 5 percent of
children. Even if the number is only 1
percent that's a lot of people. So you're
definitely not alone! And it's certainly
my pleasure to provide what advice I can.
Though i'm no expert in this field, i'm an
engineer by trade in a field know as
"machine vision" (see http://en.Wikipedia
.Org/wiki/machine_vision, an article I
wrote), which means I think about visual
perception on a regular basis.
In a previous post I mentioned a doctor
who made a big splash in this field. It
was Dr. Park, I believe. This could
explain why there is an eye center named
the "park" center: http://www.Visionh
elp.Com/clinics/moskow.Htm. I saw two
or three of his first generation of
students.
If you'd care to send me a private message
please feel free to do so (by clicking
"private message," I guess), but I think
this discussion may be useful to others as
well.
- gary
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gracew11
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Feb 2005 Posts: 1
Seriously Considering the Surgery Posted: 02-04-05 19:52pm
Hi gary,
i found your advice very helpful and
reassuring. I am a teenager in college
and in high school I didn't really have a
huge problem dealing with strabismus until
I got into college. In the back of my
mind I know I am embarrassed by my
wandering eye but I don't want to seem
shallow about the way I look so I just
avoid or ignore these negative feelings I
have towards myself. It began to be more
of an issue because as college progressed
and when I knew that in a few years I
would have to be doing interviews to get a
real job. I have finally admitted to
myself that my wandering eye has
subconsiously held me back from jumping at
a great opportunity. I feel more
self-conscious about it than ever before
and am afraid of making friends.
I also tilt my head when i'm looking at
someone and I have a hard time
concentrating (esp reading textbooks) for
long periods of time. I am seriously
considering getting surgery now before I
am too busy to even bother with it. I
didn't think that it was really affecting
my social life and the way I present
myself untill I spoke to my family about
it and what they've observed about it.
Thanks again for writing about this in a
forum. It made me feel alot better.
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Gary13
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 12 Location: Austin, Texas
Always Glad to Help Posted: 02-04-05 20:18pm
Gracew11,
i'm glad my posts were helpful. And
thanks for saying so.
It's probably best for anyone who reads a
lot to take a break of 15 minutes every
hour. I know this is hard to do when
you're in school since you have so much to
read. You may find that if you space out
your reading you'll retain information
better anyway.
I don't know if it's the best idea, but I
tend to read with my more nearsighted
right eye and then talk to people, drive,
and look at distance objects with my left
eye.
If you can find a good specialist, see if
you can try using a fresnel (pronounced
fre-nell) prism either on your glasses or,
if you don't wear glasses, on a pair of
cheap glasses with no prescription. Your
specialist may even recommend that you
wear these glasses for several weeks
before surgery so that your brain has a
chance to get used to the new positioning
of your eyes relative to one another.
I was told that a surgery can be "undone"
if the new eye position causes problems,
but you would certainly have to ask a
doctor about this.
Another factoid: if you can control your
eyes and can straighten them when you
want, you may find your vision goes blurry
when the eyes are straightened. If a
person with divergent strabismus
straightens the eyes, this is roughly
equivalent to a person without strabismus
attempting to stair at his own nose.
One's vision will go out of focus.
Straightening the eyes by repositioning
the muscles should not lead to blurry
vision since the brain will not detect
muscular tension when the eyes are
relaxed.
- gary
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eyeguy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 7
Posted: 02-17-05 21:48pm
Gary,
you always seem to provide exactly what I
want to hear. And about your
experience with "double vision" with one
eye.. I have that as well in my lazy
eye. I never really thought of it much
until right now. Do you think when/if
I finally get surgeory to straighten my
eyes if that will effect the results?
At first I pictured myself finally having
"single vision," but now i'm not so
sure.
You seem to be a very confident person
when it comes to your condition. I
envy that!
On a side note, this forum parses most of
your links including the punctuation at
the end making the links seem dead at
first. It also adds random
capitalization (ie, htm) for people who
wanted to visit gary's links:
as for depth perception, yes you are
right. I do have some depth perception
-- I guess i'm lucky for that :)
as for surgeory, I am finally seeing the
strabismus specialist in may -- who
happens to be the same doctor I saw when I
was two! A hundred doctors referrals
to get me back to where I started :) I am
not positive if he will offer sugeory, but
i'm told if anyone will offer it, it will
be this guy. Let's hope he learned a
thing or two in 17 years.
I have a couple oral presentations coming
up at school. Some tips from the
professor: "good eye contact with your
audience." oh boy, this will be fun..
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ph0b0s
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Joined: 05 Apr 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posted: 04-05-05 23:54pm
Hello, my name is leo and im from
brisbane, australia. I'm just looking
around as "lazy eye surgery" is unheard
of, or so I can tell, over here.
I am 21 years of age and I have had lazy
eye/s as long as I can remember,
especially when a few of your school
photos look like pirate mugshots ;)
my problem is that I can only focus
through one eye at a time, once I focus
through one the other wanders away, and
vice versa. I dont get double vision,
and my eye rolls out so I think it helps
my peripheral vision :)
some doctors have told me its just plain
old lazy eye, some say its "independant"
eyes and some aren't sure altogether.
I've trained myself my whole life to
switch from one eye to the other to make
sure there is no "dominant" one, but
people still look over their shoulder
sometimes to see who i'm talking to. I
was never made fun of or anything which
was a bonus, but I can't do things like
fly a plane.
I was just wondering if anyone knows
anyone good over here, or has heard of any
particular surgery/surgeries that may be
able to correct this. I don't wear
glasses and I am the only one in my
immediate family who doesn't, but I am
open to suggestions like prism lenses,
i'll settle for anything at the moment :)
my next step is to ask for a referral to
an opthomologist but I thought i'd ask you
guys before I started the "grind" of
medical beaurocracy
thanks
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eyeguy
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Joined: 10 Jul 2004 Posts: 7
Posted: 04-08-05 15:58pm
Ph0b0s, I am in no way an expert (just
reading from the internet my condition),
and along the way I have found out that a
person in your condition has the best
chance to have their eyes corrected 100%.
You can eitehr align your eyes with
surgeory or prisms, and if your eyes still
don't work together, i've heard vision
training has a very good chance of getting
them to work together.
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ph0b0s
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 05 Apr 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posted: 04-08-05 16:49pm
Hey, yeah thanks for the support, it makes
me feel alot better to at least hear
someone say things look ok.
Ive learnt to live with having two
separate focuses, I guess I have never
known much different. My dad had a lazy
eye when he was young and towards the end
of his life that eye started to shut down
and was hard to see out of. When he died
they were able to donate one of his
cornea's to someone to help them see
again, which was a bonus.
I just find it a bit strange that I can
see things like 3d movies, but not those
3d pictures you have to look at for a
while. I do think I have fairly good
depth perception but even so i've been
told im ineligible for a pilot's
licence.
Does anyone know if this is purely a
medical issue or are there factors like
brain hemispheres working independantly?
I am wondering whether I will pass it onto
my son like my dad did.
Thanks for your help so far guys
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nawoj29
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Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 5
Botulinum Toxin Posted: 04-22-05 17:35pm
Hello, people with different strabismus
problems.
I am a mother of children with exotropia
and we live in poland. I thought it was
only in our poland that things were so
hard to fix. Poland is not a rich country
and so the health care provided may not be
very up-to-date.
However, I have been struggling for my
children for years. The results are not
good, information is difficult to
obtain.... And the time passes.
Has anybody tried the use of botulimum
toxin a in treating the strabismus? I
have read an article about using the toxin
in curing. For some people it might help
to be injected once, for others it needs
to be repeated two, three times. The
effect only works for 3-4 months and
during that time the patient needs to do
quite a lot of vision therapy tu use the
time. Is that popular/done in the usa,
canada or australia. The countries seem
to have more access to science and the
latest scientific discoveries.
Another question is - has anybody used
special striped prisms to cure the
strabismus? They look awful, but
apparently help to get rid of the
strabismus - deepen the 3d vision and
dicrease the squint angle. Any experience
with the prisms?
I shall be grateful for any opinions on
the success/failure of the botulinum and
striped prisms.
All the best for you, people
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chestereddy
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Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 1
Just When You Think You're Alone! Posted: 05-01-05 15:45pm
Although I would never wish this condition
on anyone, it's refreshing to read this
thread and realize that i'm not alone.
Passed down from my father who had surgery
for his strabismus in the early 1950's,
out of 5 children, I was the only one to
inherited this strabismus condition. I
didn't learn to walk until I was 2 years
of age. Although I can't remember...
The specialists said that would have been
why. I live in new brunswick canada,
and have had 2 separate surgeries to
correct it(1973-1974). Before any
surgery, I had one eye pointing upwards
and the other inward. Children could be
cruel and I was at a young age, very self
conscious of my situation. I never
looked at anyone directly in the face when
talking to them as everytime I did they
would glance behind themselves to see if
anyone else was there and they'd ask me,
who are you talking to? This really
affected me, and my self esteem :( .
I had these surgeries at the age of 6 and
7 which was the best thing my parents
could have done for me. Although it
never corrected the fact that I couldn't
work both eyes at once, my eyes were
straight. Today i'm 37 and I can recall
the words of my specialists dr aube, now
long passed, that this condition could
come back in my later years. Although I
still consider myself a young chap, i'm
now seeing some signs. My wandering eye
is now pointing outwards.
I had my nephew visiting the other evening
and I turned to him to say something and
he looked behind to see if anyone was
behind him and said those dreaded words:
"who are you talking to?" then and there,
I said i'm not going through this again...
Not at 37.
My vision is really important to me as i'm
in the computer business, i'm a
screenwriter and novice filmmaker. I'm
considering the surgery again as i've
noticed over the last few years the
problem has progressed and i'm
experiencing vision changes. I'm
thinking maybe my eye muscles have
weakened since I was treated for
non-hodgekins lymphoma a couple years ago,
now cancer free by the way. I've talked
to my optometrist about it and although
she tries to comfort me by stating it's
hardly noticeable, I know it is noticeable
and it bothers me a great deal. So to
strengthen those muscles, I try to
remember the exercises Dr. Aube taught
me... Gawd... 30 years ago and am
doing them. We'll see soon. Has
there been any advances in this surgery
since the 70's anyone know of?
I know this reply doesn't offer advice,
but it feels good to share it with people
who understand.
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Gary13
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Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 12 Location: Austin, Texas
Follow-up Posted: 05-16-05 17:44pm
I haven't been back to this site for a few
months. I hope everyone who has posted
here is doing well.
In particular I wanted to follow up a
half-serious side comment I made in an
earlier post:
Quote:
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if by some
strange chance of fate I appear on tv some
day, I would like to state for the record
that I don't plan to look away from the
camera. (this assumes I wouldn't have
tried elective surgery to see if there's
some chance I could finally have the
"fused" 3d vision various folks seem to
think is so
nifty.)
as it happens, i'm producing a dvd of
interviews and panel discussions shot at a
comic book convention that took place in
march of this year. I interviewed about
half a dozen people myself. In the camera
#2 shots you can see that my body is
turned slightly to face the interviewee;
if you look closely (or maybe not even
very closely) you can tell that my left
eye is looking at the interviewee, and the
right eye is sorta pointed at the
camera.
No one seemed to care.
(by the way, I am using proper punctuation
and capitalization, but this bb keeps
mangling my entries.)
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susanp
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 May 2005 Posts: 1 Location: California
Lazy Eye Surgery Posted: 05-21-05 22:35pm
Hi all! Some of these posts seem old but
I have just decided at the age of 36 to
seriously look into this surgery.
My right eye is lazy but not severe,
however it is noticeable sometimes, enough
to make me very self-concious.
I would love to know the best resource to
find a Dr. In southern california that
can perfom at least a cosmetic correction
and would appreciate any feedback or
advice from the group.
I'm also wondering if this cost is ever
covered by insurance?