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guest
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 23
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Is It Schizophrenia?
Posted: 07-13-04 08:49am
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After a considerable stress at work I had
an acute psychotic episode . It was a
whole story which appeared to me logically
consistent. The content was that
different people were going to kill me, I
constantly got messages from tv, all
people were talking bad about me in the
streets and at home. I did not hear
voices. This lasted 1.5 montha when I
started taking medication. Now,8 months
later I have no any problems.How can I
know whether it is schizophrenia?
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
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Posted: 07-14-04 04:03am
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If you are not sure of what it is, then
how are you on medication for it? What
medication are you on?
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purple333
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Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
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Posted: 07-14-04 07:03am
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Yes & who put you on medication
without fully diagnosing & explaining
your condition???? One thing though were
you on or had you just stopped taking any
medication at the time of the episode you
mention which might have caused or
precipitated it??
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guest
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 23
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Reply
Posted: 07-14-04 07:50am
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This was my first episode in my life.
According to the doctor this could be
"psychogenic" (stress generated) disorder.
The reasons are that I recovered
relatively quickly-full recover about
19-20 days(is it quickly?)and I have not
many of the typical schizophrenic symptoms
like thought broadcasting, blunt affect,
but just positive symptoms - persecutory
delusions.I take rispolept (risperdal)
which is for chizophrenia as well. This
medication worked well for me.
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purple333
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
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Posted: 07-14-04 08:00am
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I think the best/simplest thing you can do
is to go to a couple of search engines
& type in what is .....
Schizophrenia, a psychotic episode & a
psychogenic disorder (check each
separately!) & then again for each
type in somethings like what are the
treatments, therapies, natural alternative
treatments for .......
This would allow you to see what the
symptoms, research, treatments are &
what tallies/fits with what a) you
experienced & b) what your dr said.
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guest
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 23
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Reply
Posted: 07-14-04 08:17am
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I did all that stuff.Symptoms of the two
disorders are alike.That's the problem.
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purple333
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Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
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Posted: 07-14-04 15:17pm
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Sometimes I have found (& this is
bizarre in my opinion) that you can do
exactly the same search twice running on
the same search engine & get totally
different lists of options to research!!
So it may be worth trying again & also
trying different search engines!!
Another thing is to contact organizations
that offer support to schizophrenics etc
as they may be able to give you further
suggestions of where to get information.
Plus when you go to search engines
sometimes you need to a) really plough
through alot of garbage to get to what you
want - which may not appear to be what you
want at first & b) you can really
alter the reseults of the search by even
minor wording changes to what you search
for.
Basically what i'm saying is that the
information is out there - the problem is
finding it - & sometimes you find it
but don't realize it unless you really
read stuff that may not seem relevant -
also note any links etc in research etc.
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lollipop4u
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 79 Location: pottsboro
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It 's the Mind ...
Posted: 07-23-04 22:41pm
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So, yes, it could be chemical and or
psychological ! You say it was
situational stress so, that may very well
be but, I would look to your psychiatrist
who may or may not have had enough time to
solve the problem himself ! Laura
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guest
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
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Re: It 's the Mind ...
Posted: 07-24-04 05:44am
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The problem is that the episode lasted for
1.5 months (before the medication). For
brief psychotic disorder the time of the
episode is limited to a month. Therefore
it seems to me rather like schizophrenia
(unfortunately).
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lollipop4u
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 79 Location: pottsboro
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Am I Taking Crazy Pills ?
Posted: 07-24-04 21:48pm
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It is called a " transient " mental
illness if it is due to a crisis and last
< 6 months !!! Thanks people !!!
Laura
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purple333
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Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
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Posted: 07-25-04 04:10am
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Yes, you can get a mental illness that is
purely transient but

the other fact ignored in the previous
post is that a transient mental illness
can lead to or become long term due to
such factors 
as a genetic predisposition to mental
illness, stressors lasting longer or a
number of stressors building up over a
period(often unrecognised by self  or others inc.
Drs) & so a permanent mental illness
develops. Also often people (even drs)
think a situation/illness has lasted
<6months but in fact they are wrong as
they are unaware (for soooo many possible
reasons)of other factors which preceeded
but impacted on or which have continued
& so impact on the whole situation.

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guest
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
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Re: Am I Taking Crazy Pills ?
Posted: 07-26-04 04:14am
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According to some sources it would be
transient if it has lasted at most for a
month. More than a month it is labeled as
schizophrenia. Is it true?
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purple333
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Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
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Posted: 07-26-04 11:01am
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Look up the word pedantic - this is what
you are being in obsessing over minute
details in everything you are reading -
the simple fact is that for any
illness/condition (mental or physical) you
will find many different views even from
drs at the same hospital much less world
wide.
So <6months, 1 month or 1.5 months any
or all could be or are right - it just
depends on the opinion of the author of
the research paper you are reading at the
time & even that person may hold a
different view a short time later after
doing more research.
Your diagnosis may or not be accurate
& whatever meds work for you may not
be right for another person, you may also
respond to non-prescription meds &
alternative medical treatments whereas
another person may not.
One thing that won't help though is
getting strung out & pedantic over
every word & every bit of information
you read or are given. What will help is
for you to research & learn but  relax

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lollipop4u
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 79 Location: pottsboro
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the American Medical Association ...
Posted: 07-26-04 14:22pm
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Says, " no " to your question ! They
specify needing at least six months of
frequent visits before making a definitive
diagnosis of schizophrenia ! Thanks, so
much ! Laura
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purple333
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Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
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Ama of Course > Never Wrong?????
Posted: 07-27-04 02:37am
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Let's be realistic the
american/australian/british medical
associatins & all others have changed
their views on everthing over the years
& many individual members have
different views to what those expressed
byt he "association". So there is no one
single absolutely correct undeniable
answer all wrapped up in a neat little
package to be sacked & swallowed like
or by a lollipop.
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lollipop4u
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 79 Location: pottsboro
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Purple 's Perspective ...
Posted: 07-27-04 23:30pm
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Is the only one that 's right ! So, yes,
there lies the rub or your answer or rub
your answer and turn into a genie and wish
you weren 't here ! Thanks ! "
lollipop, lollipop ... Oh, lolly -
lollipop ! " .
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purple333
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
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There Is No Single Right Answer.
Posted: 07-28-04 02:44am
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That is my point exactly - thereis not one
right answer (not mine or anyone else's)
*i do not have a right answer becasue
there are many right answers depending on
many factors specific to the individual.
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lollipop4u
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 79 Location: pottsboro
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What 's Up Doc ?
Posted: 07-29-04 15:49pm
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If it were me, I would go wherever I
needed to be to get in with the right
physicians, and therefore, the right
medications !!! Many people are
dependent on their medications to make it
thru each and every day . Say, you had
problems with your blood pressure, you
would then take " antihypertensives " .
Or, say for instance, you had problems
with your blood sugar, you would hopefully
get on a diabetic diet, or, if needs be,
an " oral agent " and, beyond that if you
were more severe they would term you a "
type ii " and, your doctor would choose
from a vast array of insulins out there on
the market ! You know, it 's like
diabetics have a disease of the pancrease
and schizophrenics have a disease of the
brain . They have doctors and medicines
for each ! Thank god !!! Now, go and
learn ! Laura
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purple333
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Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
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Alternatives!!
Posted: 07-29-04 23:25pm
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Just as they have traditional drs &
traditional meds for things inc
schizophrenia - so they also have
alternative drs (some traditional
psychiatrists prefer non-traditonal or
alternative meds) & alternative
treatments & meds & so on for
things including schizophrenia.
As you are seeking answers, options &
information you should also look outside
the "box" of western medicine (although
there are also some good alternatives
available in western medicine -
unfortunately they're not promoted or
advertised because the pharmaceutical
companies don't make money from them!!)
for answers & possible solutions. You
have a long life ahead of you don't get
hooked on a med now & find out later
that there was a better healthier way.
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boogaloo
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 33 Location: kitchener
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Just a Bystander!!
Posted: 12-14-04 01:25am
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Hello there everyone! I'm not
schizophrenic, but I am a nurse who works
in an acute care hospital and work on a
very busy medical floor. We have a
certain # of beds funded specifically for
psych. Pts. We do have a psych. Dept.
, but if the person is medically ill or
unstable for whatever reason, then they
will be admitted to our unit. So for
14yrs. That's were i've been nursing.
Now I just wanted to let you know that to
give you a bit of my background, i'm not
stating to know all, I just wanted to give
my opinion of what I feel based on my
experiences, and I do have a good friend
who has a son who does suffer from
schizophrenia. Risperdal is a medication
given for many reasons, some of which may
be for no "ongoing" reasons at all. I
have given this medication out on a daily
basis due to that. One reason is for
restlessness--often given to the confused
elderly, or someone who needs help due to
stress (either due to illness, or episode
experienced) I just wanted to say to the
author of the first posted letter that you
may never experience (and sounds like you
won't) anything like this ever again. So
I have to agree to purple 333 to stop
worring, and work on healing, and move on.
< I don't mean that hastily, but
sincerely!! Good luck!
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