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2ferano

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Omg I Found It....read!
Posted: 07-14-04 01:19am

Hey, I finally found this. When I had my old username I made a post that said if anyone would like to read this to contact me. Then there was a post a while back asking if anyone had it, but I could not find it. Well, here it is. Keep in mind I am prochoice, but this makes me sick. Give me your feedback. And remember, I did not write this!


Upon looking at the abortion debate there are valid solutions to the
problem. Although the choice of abortion is not a problem it should
be realized that right-wing forces lead by the bush administration
are curbing women's freedoms one by one. In this way the bush
administration is deceiving in its intentions. If bush could he
would ban every abortion procedure. Thankfully we have organizations
like now as well as democratic minority leader nancy pelosi. All of
the democratic candidates are also behind the pro-choice movement.
It is important to keep women's rights but why stop there? The only
way to keep us safe from intrusions from religious fanatic is to
eliminate the problem. We need to convince the american people that
our way is the right way.

The problem with abortion is that is doesn't solve the problem.
Single moms are increasing more than before in poverty stricken
areas. These single moms are being denied services and opportunities
by the overly capitalistic bush administration. We also have poor
families throughout the country that have large families and are
unable to provide for them. While government programs would be able
to solve many of these inequities the fact remains that the american
people are becoming more conservative and are caring less and less
for the plights of the poor. The abortion industry is not providing
the potential it can. Let me illustrate the inefficiencies.

Many people in this country are denied health care that would be
provided by stem cell research. We need to expand this research in
other countries in order to counter bush but it is also important to
oust bush so as to continue this procedure. In the future I realize
a collective of stem cells that will be able to provide for every
that needs them. Because science is not fully development it would
be good for society as a whole to have women volunteer to give up
their embryos. Proper incentive can be reached by tax incentives or
by access to government programs previously denied to them such as
workers comp. Or day care. In this way a massive amount of stem cell
research will be able to solve many of the health problems.

Fetus material can be used by scientists for experimentation.
Medical students will have the ability to study more of these
specimens more closely. The fetuses can be used to go after disease
and it may be possible to provide a link between abortion and breast
cancer. If this link exists we could use the data to solve the
problem and save the lives of countless women. If such a link does
not exist we can prove once and for all that the religious fanatic
were wrong about any such link. We can sell fetal organs for
children who are already living. The organ transplants can be used
to help countless children in need. The selling of organs can keep
clinics open who are in low demand areas of the us such as the south
and midwest. There is a serious lack of clinics in those areas which
i believe is because the government refuses to subsidize them even
though the government spends billions on airlines and other
corporations like enron. The europeans will be great full for our
market of organs and will of course open themselves up to organ
trading. Tariffs for this procedure in exchanging fetus material
would be free open trade. In this way we can encourage other
countries in the third world to solve some of their economic woes.
In this way we can ensure the abortion industry by allowing the
government to tax these exchanges of materials. The government very
rarely banns a market that can be taxed. In order to compete with
russia we will have to increase abortion supply to another million.

Another thing the government is not looking into is the idea of using
fetal tissue as a type of fuel. After all oil and coal is a product
of dead plants and animals from many eons ago. While I must admit
that such a way of energy production could cause pollution in high
amounts creating smog how can we justify the lack of energy resources
in the third world. People die in russia because they do not have
the proper energy resources. The local abortion clinic could be the
key to every russian town in siberia. We need to look into
alternative energy sources and this is the largest source available.
Burning organic matter for a fuel could be a new way to keep energy
sources continual in the third world and elsewhere.

We need to refund the clinics in africa and here is the reasoning for
it. If the clinics take care of the abortions african women have we
could solve the aids problem within the children'' population. No
longer would we have to fund unneeded orphanages and expend huge sums
of money on children's health. Instead the money would be used to
get cheap drugs, supply medicine to the existing children, and of
course find a cure. That is why it is essential to refund the
abortion clinics in africa, which bush rudely defunded a year ago.
The aids infected fetuses could be used for science purposes into
coming up with a cure. If we do not find a cure soon many tens of
millions of people will die.

We have no addressed world hunger either. It is true that world
hunger in the poorest country is a tragedy. In order to relieve the
stress on the governments of these nations in feeding these people i
suggest we supply them with fetus materials. We would then be able
to feed people who would in another case die of terrible starvation.
Until we can find another remedy for these people this idea should be
considered. Let it not be forgotten that in many historical
incidents people have eaten human flesh of their dead comrades to
survive. Although distasteful this could help many people. It is a
pure waste I say to just send a fetus into the trash when there are
many uses for it within the worlds of science, education, and in
solving world hunger. In this way I am sure that you will agree. We
cannot allow ourselves to act like the religious fanatics and deny
people around the world a source of energy and food. Let me suggest
it would be almost criminal for us to not share the wealth we have as
americans. If you disagree with my ideas or methods than you should
take a hard look at the starving people in africa. As pro choice
america we need to defeat bush but not just that. We need to send
our side to a high moral platform than what the religious rights
propose. They are ignorant fools and we all know it don't we? Once
we become dominate again in the house and presidency we can send this
plan into action, but as of now we are stuck. Women need to not let
their rights float out the window.

Vote democratic

vote pro choice

thank you.
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purple333

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Just As Well You Disowned This!!
Posted: 07-14-04 07:14am

That is appalling - did whoever wrote it - well were they in any sense serious??

I am glad that you disowned it & so on but equally I think that if the author was serious we need to know the sort of insane people who are out there.
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2ferano

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Posted: 07-14-04 09:49am

I got it off of a yahoo abortion group. I had to join to be able to read them. I read this one (first one) copied it and quit the group. I am prochoice, but that is freakin disgusting.
And the sad part is that I am pretty sure this person is serious. There are some very, very sick people out there and they think they are smart!Haha.

Heck no, I did not write that crap! It gives me chills just thinking about coming up with something like thatl Confused
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PattyV

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Scary
Posted: 07-14-04 10:24am

Wow,what really concerns me is that these people really believe this stuff!At first you think that this group has the right idea,but read a little more and it sounds like "soylent green"!!(anyone old enough to remember that one??)insane!!
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JanetBee

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Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Posts: 332

Posted: 07-14-04 12:07pm

It reads to me like a very clever anti-abortionist writing this, designed to be used against anyone who is pro-choice, by taking an extreme viewpoint, its as thought its a satire if you see what I mean, because it really doesn't make a lot of sense, I mean, the idea that there would be enough embryos to burn for fuel is just nonsense, so if you read it carefully it is like a parody.
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Sinsaint

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Joined: 29 May 2004
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Posted: 07-14-04 15:51pm

I hope you guys realize this letter is a joke. N.A.R.A.L doesn't support this and neither do the democrats. It's funny in a way but come on. Tax breaks for fetal donation? Workman's comp? We will have to up abortions by 1 million (everyone knows that's not true, pro-choice want abortion to always be a woman's right but more than anything we too want to reduce abortions by educating people about birth control). I could go through the entire letter but i'm certain if you read it, you will see where all the 'jokes' are supposed to be.
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2ferano

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Posted: 07-15-04 02:05am

I hope to god it is a joke. But like I said I got it off of a prochioce "group" on yahoo. It wasn't a debate or anything. It was just those people's opinions.
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sandyallen

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Posted: 07-15-04 21:03pm

It sure does not sound like they are too happy with someone that used to be on this forum(catlick) either! It sure is strange that she would not say where this came from. Maybe we should join that forum for a while as it seems like samie and a few others have chased others away from here. I don't think that I would come on the abortion forum here if I had to listen to samie's stuff either, even though she is gone! I think someone might be correct about samie and catlick being the same person. I feel this letter is a joke also as the real pro-choice people do not feel this way!
Maybe someone got bitter about being kicked-off this forum.
Sincerely
sandy
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purple333

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Posted: 07-15-04 21:36pm

Yes, I am one who got tired of samie's bigotry & total oblivion to both the views of others & to the right of others to actually dare to hold views that were in any way different to that of "god" samie!! Rolling Eyes

but I do believe that debate & sharing of different views & ideas & information is healthy & helpful to everyone. So long as we also have respect for the rights of others to have & express different views (obviously so long sa they are expressed with respect for others & so long as the views are reasonable - not sure who decides what "reasonable" is but I hope you all understand what I mean!!) Wink
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sandyallen

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Posted: 07-15-04 22:03pm

I agree with you purple333, I feel the same way, sometimes I am a little more blunt than others, or say things differently and some people take it differently, I work five and a half days a week, sometimes 10 hours a day trying to help people and it generally does not stop there and I realize you cannot help everyone as this is something I enjoy.
Purple333 you are good at this, you sound like you have gone through a lot you should get licensed(i am not being sarcastic). You have a good way with words, you sound like you have a lot of experience just like myself!

Sincerely
sandy
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purple333

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Posted: 07-15-04 22:59pm

Thanks sandy your kind words are much appreciated & happen to come at a time when I really need them. Yes I have gone & am going through alot. I do feel though that that is a large part of why I can be of help to others. I wouldn't know how to "get licensed - for that matter i'm not sure that's what happens here?? - maybe I should look into it - I do need something positive in my life - anything positive would be a start. Sorry having a rotten day!! So again thanks.

So many people who give advice just don't know enough about the real world ( for those here that give good advice & perhaps feel i'm saying they don't please don't misunderstand some peole can give advice without necessarily having alot of world experience - experience comes in many forms & ways - just as having it doesn't automatically make a person able to give advice - samie being a great example of this!!)
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