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monika11

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Posted: 07-16-04 11:02am

Hi I am glad that I found this forum I was wondering if any one can help me a bit. I"m 20 and I have been bulimic for 1.5 years. I hate it and love it at the same time. I wish I never started because now its hard to get away from it. I am working on it though.And I think its working. I never did it multiple times in a day the most I have done it is 4 times a week. I was reading over some posted topics here and I came accros one that talked about that bulimia slows your metabolizm down and makes you gain weight. How exacly does it make you gain weight is it because some of the food that you binge on always stays and is not thrown up or it literally messes with your system. I probably sound really dumb but I really dont understand. Can some one please help?
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Julie25

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Posted: 07-16-04 13:09pm

Hi,

what I read is that over the years, your body retains more and more of the food that you binge on. Some of it is absorbed quite quickly in the stomach and large intestine. The longer you binge and vomit, the more your body will retain. I have found this to be true in my case. After one year of being bulimic, I had lost quite a lot of weight. But then, a year later, it was beginning to creep back on. I gained a lot of the weight back, plus I did bad damage to my stomach, teeth and intestine.
Another thing is, your metabolism slows down because you are not reliably feeding your body. Your body does not trust you anymore, and thus switches into a mode where it tries to conserve as much energy as possible. Thus, your pulse will drop, you may feel colder than usual, and more sluggish, etc. Even your cognitive abilities become worse. Your body is trying to conserve energy, because it cannot be sure when the next meal will come, and how much of it you keep in. Basically, it messes up your resting metabolic rate - that is the rate at which you burn energy (calories) when you are resting. When your resting metabolic rate is lower, you will find it harder and harder to maintain your weight, never mind losing weight. You need to vomit more and more to keep your weight down, and basically you are mostly losing water and muscle.
I was like you, I used to do it about three to four times a week. But then I increased it to four times daily because it was not having the desired effect anymore. Plus, I was losing mostly water and muscle mass, instead of fat. Because basically, you are bingeing and starving, and that is very, very, very bad for you.
I am recovering since two months, and I feel much better. You can stop, and eat regularly without bingeing, you just need to break the cycle. I needed the help of a therapist, and it took me a year. Basically, you have to convince yourself that you are killing yourself slowly. It's like suicide in slow motion. Once you have understood that, and you want to live, you will stop, or at least become better. Also, your body image and self esteem need to become better. It's a lot of hard work. I advise you to get help, as quickly as possible. The sooner, the better.
Good luck!
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monika11

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Posted: 07-16-04 17:18pm

Thank you so much for responding. I was hoping I can talk to someone that was in my shoes. The thing is I understand were you are comming from but now I only do it like 2 times a week and I do eat very healthy and balanced meals its just that sometimes I get cravings binge and throw up. This might sound sick but I make sure it all comes out. I dont know if that makes sense. I eat a big salad before and then I eat bad stuff. After im done I throw up until the salad. Im sorry if im grossing you out im just trying to explain. So my body is never straving or malnutritioned it just those 2 days that I plan to binge. I also work out and stuff. I just cant seeem to get the weight off. Honestly I dont throw up to loose weight b/c I dont throw up my dinner or breakfast I just throw up my planned binges. I do it b/c I love food and it makes me feel better. What do you think will that still effect me. Im not sayingi want to do it all my life b/c I know its bad and I wanto quit. I just ....I dont know.
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Julie25

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Posted: 07-17-04 11:00am

Hi monika,

i understand exactly what you are doing. That's how it starts. Many of us start that way, just ask some on this forum, they might tell you the same.

To answer your question: yes, you are still affecting your body. Vomiting (even as infrequently as twice a week) affects the electrolyte balance in your body, you lose important minerals and salts, and yes, it slows down your metabolism as well. The acid is scarring your gullet, and basically you are suffering all the same consequences as those of us who vomit more often, you just may not be able to tell, because it's probably happening more slowly. You are saying you can't lose weight. One, do you need to lose weight? Are you even overweight? Two, you are probably eating too little to lose weight. That sounds absurd, but it is true. You need to eat a certain amount of calories to lose weight. Otherwise your metabolism is too slow and you don't lose body fat. If you do need to lose weight (note the capital if), aim for at least 1,200 calories! And keep up the exercise, exercise is good. If you are not even overweight, it will be harder for you to lose weight as well, because basically, you won't need to, and your body will be reluctant to let go of its reserves.
Ignore people who say that you need to starve to lose weight. Not true at all. It's a common myth.
I can tell you how it will continue: first, you only throw up the food that is "bad". Then, you think, what the heck, I might as well throw up everyhting, after all, it's not helping, i'm not losing any weight by just throwing up twice a week. You increase your vomiting, and that's when the sh*t really hits the fan. Because then you are hooked, you can't stop, because you get really hungry and overeat more often. Bulimia is very much physiologically driven as well. That's what people tend to forget.
There's nothing wrong with treating yourself once in a while to the foods you love, without throwing up. Having chocolate twice a week will not make you fat! You can even lose weight! As long as you don't eat wagonloads. Fact: chocolate and other "forbidden" foods do not make you fat, as long as you eat them in moderation. Another fact: any food can make you put on weight if you have way too much of it too often! (but you won't, if you learn to eat them in moderation.)
make a plan to eat one or two of your favourite foods once or twice a week. You will learn to enjoy them more, because once you accept them, they won't be forbidden anymore, and you won't feel so guilty! Treat yourself every now and then. There's no point in denying yourself, because that only leads to eating too much of them, and then vomiting! Take it from someone who has been there and done that. I am a healthy weight now, and yes, I do eat chocolate now and then, and no, I don't vomit! I never knew life could be this good! :d good luck.
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monika11

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Posted: 07-19-04 09:58am

Hi, thanks for writing back im not sure how many calories I eat. For b/f I eat usually a few veggies and wholegrain bread 2 pieces, after I work out I eat a piece of protein and veggies, lunch big salad, no dressing no croutons, dinner salad also with some meat. I did notice changes in my body b/c I started working out so maybe that will work but you know what makes me mad is that I dont see the scale move, maybe its b/c I do weight 2 times a week? And its muscle?I also got screwed over b/c in january iwent on atkins and the first few days I got a little smaller but then I gained weight so now im trying to loose it.I used to weigh 150 im 5.7 now I weigh 164 so I gues I am overweight. I dont know how that happened b/c it usually makes people loose weight so now im doing more of a south beach diet. Im just trying to eat healthy. I know what you mean about throwing up and that it will get worse I hope not thats what iv been doing for th past 1.5 years just binge 2 times a week , I know I have to stop, but when I just want a little piece of cake its like I cant stop, and it angers me of that some girls can eat the whole cake and not gain a pound. Twisted Evil I dont want bulimia as a tool for loosing weight for me its just a tool to get rid of those sweets I eat once a week. I know I cant do this and I will have too try to quit. Its so easy frooo other people to loose weigth I just dont get it.
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Julie25

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Posted: 07-19-04 10:41am

I know what you mean, before I became bulimic I was forever trying to lose weight, and it wasn't coming off. Now I know why, because of my harsh diets and because I had an underactive thyroid. Have you had your thyroid checked? It might be underactive. See your doctor and tell him about your concern. He will do a blood test. If you have an underactive thyroid, this results in a slower metabolism. Medication can take care of that. It did help me feel a lot better, and my body is now more tolerant regarding food!
I still believe though that you are not eating enough to lose weight. You eat mainly vegetables (salad consists mainly of water anyway). Also, this food must leave you very hungry and undernourished, and you will be much more likely to binge on sweets and unhealthy foods! That, coupled with your vomiting, is very likely to wreak havoc with your metabolism!
Unfortunately, long lasting weight loss does not happen overnight. It can take a while, depending on how much you want to lose. But judging from the height and the weight you stated in your post, you are only slightly overweight (your bmi is around 25-26). Remember, the guidelines are only guidelines. Some people have a genetic predisposition to be a bit heavier. So it might be harder for you to lose weight. But I would still advise you to 1) up your caloric intake (i don't believe in these low carb diets, I think they are unhealthy and very dangerous for people with bulimia or bulimic tendencies, because they can lead us to binge) and 2) see your doctor about your thyroid. Smile
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monika11

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Posted: 07-19-04 17:54pm

Thank you so much you've helped me a lot. I will start eatin more and I am definatly going to the doctor b/c I dont have my period since march and I know that im not pregnant. So something might be going on. I just hate my body so much everybody tells me that im not fat and that I dont even look like a weigh as much as I do much but I tried already 3 scales and they say the same thing. Every day I think about how fat I am and I need to loose weight. Everything is aout my body which I hate b/c no matter were I go I think people are talking about my weigh. And even though a lot of guys like me that still doesnt help my confidence. I wanto loose the weight for my self. And I will try my best to do it the right way. :p when you got on the medication did it help you loose weight and stabilize your conditions did you have any signs and symptoms you can tell mebefore you were diagnosed.
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sandyallen

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Posted: 07-19-04 19:56pm

I totally agree with julie25! I also feel that this can not be done alone(getting away from bulimia)you do need help and their is nothing wrong with asking! I know of people who have past away thinking that they can do it on their own. This could be why you are not having your period is because bulimia can throw off your whole system.
Sincerely,
sandy
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Julie25

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Posted: 07-20-04 12:40pm

monika11 wrote:
thank you so much you've helped me a lot. I will start eatin more and I am definatly going to the doctor b/c I dont have my period since march and I know that im not pregnant. So something might be going on. I just hate my body so much everybody tells me that im not fat and that I dont even look like a weigh as much as I do much but I tried already 3 scales and they say the same thing. Every day I think about how fat I am and I need to loose weight. Everything is aout my body which I hate b/c no matter were I go I think people are talking about my weigh. And even though a lot of guys like me that still doesnt help my confidence. I wanto loose the weight for my self. And I will try my best to do it the right way. :p when you got on the medication did it help you loose weight and stabilize your conditions did you have any signs and symptoms you can tell mebefore you were diagnosed.


reading your post, I felt like I had written it myself. I always felt like that! And I often still do, although I know deep down that I am not fat. The problem is self-esteem (or lack of it). I am in therapy, and learning to accept myself, but it's not easy. I have always longed to be thin and to blend in, but I have also always loved food, especially sweets. Bulimia seemed like the answer to my prayers, at the very beginning. But it is one of the worst things that happened to me.
I strongly suggest you talk to someone, because you appear to have very low self-esteem. You say that guys like the way you look. Well, for me it was the same, many people liked the way I looked, but it doesn't help because I didn't like myself. Nobody can make you like yourself, it comes from within. I'm sure many beautiful celebrities have low self-esteem because they don't like themselves. So it doesn't really have anything to do with reality, it's how we grow up and what we are made to believe by other people (e.G. You are fat, you are ugly, etc.). Media also plays a role, of course, but it is primarily something that we learn growing up and as teenagers, and it's hard to unlearn!
The fact that your period has stopped is not good- I don't mean to panic you ok, but you should really get it checked out. That can be a symptom of bulimia, as sandyallen rightly pointed out. It only shows that you don't have to be vomiting very often to cause harm to your body, and it's likely that your metabolism is very slowed down and that you are experiencing other problems. You should have your blood checked, not only because of the thyroid, but also because your liver and kidney function, and other things, should be looked at.
Anyway, as for the symptoms of an underactive thyroid, for me it was mainly tiredness, my hair was brittle and broke off constantly, I was finding it very hard to lose weight (but that was also because of starvation dieting and bingeing!), I always felt cold, especially my hands and feet, I couldn't concentrate at school, and I was very low and depressed. All this improved with the medication, especially the tiredness and concentration problems. Regarding my weight, it is difficult to say, because I started the medication while I was still bulimic, so my metabolism was still messed up. I haven't vomited in more than two months (which is still not a very long time period, considering I spent nearly four years vomiting), and I have put on weight, because my metabolism is adjusting again. Although I am unhappy with that (check the post I wrote about three weeks ago!!), I am dealing with it. But what I can say is that my body is more tolerant with food than it was before I became bulimic. By this I mean that I am not constantly putting on more and more weight, like I did before! I am quite stable, and I am not overweight, even though I eat normally. When I used to eat normally, I used to put on weight quickly, but that's not happening any more. So yes, I can feel a difference, but I will have to wait about six months more to be sure. I am expecting that I will lose some weight as my metabolism normalises itself. With exercise and reducing my intake slighlty after six months, I think I actually could be the same size as I was when I was bulimic (i was slim, not skinny though). The good thing is it will be without vomiting. And it could be the same for you, if you stop bingeing and vomiting and start eating regular, satisfying, proper meals. Imagine having the best of both worlds - being a nice shape and healthy as well. It is possible, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. And try to stay away from people who diet compulsively, or at least don't talk about weight and food with them. They will only influence you. But most of all, talk to someone and confide in them. While I am here to provide support if you need it :d , you should confide in someone you trust and are close to. From there, the next step is a self help group, or better yet, counselling (i swear by it). Good luck!!
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monika11

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Posted: 07-20-04 17:12pm

Thank you so much I never thought that someone has felt the way I did . I am scheduling an appointment for a doctor tomorow. I know I have to go and I need to know what exactly is wrong. I wannna be healthy and live my life like a normal person. I would never think that food would take over me as it did but it happened so I have to deal with it. Do you have any idea how long would it take for my metabolism to adjust? Did you put on a huge amount of weight , I m terrified of gaining, but I guess im ready.Thank you so much again for your help :p
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Julie25

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Posted: 07-21-04 16:00pm

You don't know how glad I am to read that!! I am so happy that you are considering what I said and want to change your life for the better! I can tell you are an intelligent girl and I really believe you will manage. :d
unfortunately I don't know how lomg it takes for the metabolism to adjust, because I have been told different things. My friend who recovered from bulimia took about ten months. She put on a stone (about 14 pounds?), but she lost it again. I have also put on a stone. I now weigh about 165 pounds, and I am 5'10''. I used to be a lot slimmer (about 150 pounds), but at the moment I am willing to be heavier, if that means that I won't die from bulimia and live normally. So, while i'm not thrilled with the weight gain, I know some of it will come off naturally again, and as for the rest, I will need to reduce my caloric intake slightly to lose that. But I won't be able to do that until I have been okay for at least six months, my therapist said.
I can't say how it will be for you, but you might not gain much at all. Some people hardly gain anything, some do gain quite a bit. But the important thing to remember is that the weight you will gain initially won't be body fat, it will be because your body is rehydrating. Due to vomiting, your body is dehydrated, and establishing a normal eating pattern again will result in water weight gain. Also, you may retain more water in your body(i do), and that's why you need to drink 2 litres of water daily! This is important, because then you will eventually start to lose the water again after a week or so. I didn't take this seriously enough, and that wasn't good, because I am still retaining water. But please follow this advice, drink lots of water. (sounds funny I know drinkng water to lose water, but that's apparently how it works.)
meanwhile, you need to talk about your problem to someone you trust, because if you are not keeping it a secret anymore, it won't be so easy for you to fall back into your old ways. Also, it will help you emotionally. You will need emotional support to get you through the period of adjusting to normal living again, and it is always great to have someone's shoulder to cry on and to reassure you that you are not becoming fat! Otherwise you may start falling back into old habits.
I am very proud of you that you have made the wise decision to take control of your life again, and that you want to live normally! Please don't lose that feeling! It is so important.
A big hug from me! Cool
take care
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monika11

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Posted: 07-21-04 17:18pm

Im really happy that came here. Thank you you did help me a lot. About the water , I do drink lots of it and that is the only thing that I drink, no pop oh and also green tea. I actually like water plus when I work out I need to drink it. I always wondered about water weight, I know that it shows up on a scale but lets say if tou gain 10 pounds of water are you still the same size I mean can you actually see it on youself, or do you put on inches to? Thats kind of confusing me. When you said you gained was it only water and if it was were you still the same size? This thing happends to me sometimes one day I fit in my jeans perfectly the next day they are tighter. I dont get it and a few days after that the same jeans are perfect again I dont get it b/c I dont put them in the dryer. Im confused.
Also lets say a person eats healthy but then like I have a craving and eat cake or something I like, can I gain weight from it, just one day? B/c if I want to quit throwing up I mean I will get a craving once in a while and I dont wanto throw it up I will have to keep it inside. Im so paranoind I swear sometime I will eat something sweet and not throw it up and I just beat my self up for I feel so bad and I hate myself for going of track.
I think the smallest thing will make me fat. Thats why im so jelous of other people they eat normal and me like me and my friends go out they arder pizza or fries, wings all these sweet drinks and I either just sit there with a salad or drink my water. I feel so weird and my friends are not even fat?

I was never fat as a kid my body totally changed when I came to america and started eating all this diffrent food. I was not used to it. Then I became obsesed about my body. And it was even worse because I was getting to the "developing" stage you know. As you said before deep down I know that im not fat or huge or watever, but them something in the back of my head tells me I am , its so weird, I dont know if that makes sence. And you know the models and stars on tv dont exactlu help, I sware I look in the mirror like 70 times a day just to see if I gained anything. I cant wait till im normal. Unfortunatly I have no one to talk to b/c they all think I recovers from being bulimic so if I tell them I didn't and I kept lying they will flip out. Bu ti think im strong enough to go on my own thats the good thing I was always on my own and learned to fix my stuff by myself. Thank you again for your support.
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Julie25

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Posted: 07-22-04 05:08am

Hi,

first of all you need to understand one thing. You will not get fat from eating cake or giving in to a craving once in a while. The golden rule is that no food will make you fat just from eating it once in a while (not often, that is!), but most foods will make you gain weight if they are eaten excessively. I cannot stress this enough, eating "forbidden foods" occasionally may even be important, because you cannot avoid them all your life. You must learn to enjoy them in moderation, because being a bulimic, you are vulnerable. If you deny yourself all these foods, you will crave them more and then binge. And then the whole cycle will start again. The key is breaking out of the binge-purge cycle, while not restricting your food. There are guidelines on healthy eating, you can find them on the internet, for example. No realistic guidelines forbid you to eat fatty foods, they just say to enjoy them in moderation. It can be confusing to know what "in moderation" means, but a burger once every three weeks or so, or a chocolate bar once a week, or whatever, will not make you blow up to 20 stone!
The reason you feel your friends can eat anything they want is that every person has a genetic predisposition towards a certain range of body weight. Some of us are "unlucky" and our set point weight is higher than average, because we have a certain body type and a certain metabolism. Others are slim and still appear to eat more than us. First of all, a lot of that can be genetically determined. However, also you should ask yourself this: do you know everything about your firends' eating habits? And do they really eat loads of junk food, or dies it just seem that way to you, because you have an eating disorder? I know when I was fully bulimic, everything appeared to be eating loads to me, because I had this attitude that even a small bit of food can make you fat. So I saw everyone to be eating a lot, when in fact they were just eating normally, and I was eating too little!! Once you start eating normally, you'll be surprised at how much you'll be allowed to eat! It is more than you think. When I started making my eating plan every day, I thought, that is so much food! But it isn't really, it just seems that way, because when you are bulimic (or anorexic) you have this mind set that any food (even an apple, for god's sake) will make you put on weight. That is a blatant lie.
As for water retention, yes, that can make your clothes feel tighter etc. The thing you said about your jeans not fitting is especially common before having your period, but because you said you don't have your periods at the moment, this is even more of a reason to check your blood. The doctor can determine in your blood whether you are retaining fluid because of bulimia. This may be the reason why you feel so heavy and your clothes become tighter. Water weight gain is easier to get rid of though, so that's good news.
I actually saw my doctor this morning, and had another blood test. My thyroid appears to still be underactive (in spite of the medication), so that is still affecting my metabolism. In a week's time I have to check back, and they will tell me whether I have to increase my medication. That will definitely make it easier for me to lose weight. So when you see the doctor, ask about your thyroid and about water retention. But you need to tell him about vomiting as well, otherwise he may not take you seriously!!

Thirdly, I can understand about you not wanting to tell anyone, but think about it this way. You have a problem, and it is very bad for you to bottle it in. If the people close to you love you, they will understand, instead of being mad at you. It is not your fault! This illness is very powerful, and you can't deal with it on your own. Just look at some of the threads on this forum. People think they are strong and can manage on their own, but not many do. It can damage you. You need some support, and this will also help you break out of the cycle, because once people know about it, it is harder for you to keep it a secret, and you will try to help yourself. And please don't do what many people do, that is, lie about being better or lying to your therapist. You are not helping anyone that way, least of all yourself. It's dangerous to think you can deal with it all alone. There is no shame in asking for help. I know you can get strong reactions from your family, I have been through it. Most of them don't understand. But they can still be there for you, just to listen and to watch out for you. And even if you decide not to tell them, tell a counsellor, or go to a meeting, get help! Once it's out in the open, you can fight it better, and it won't be able to control you that much.
You said you came to america as a child, and changed your diet. Where did you live before? I know what that is like, I am german, and I moved to britain four years ago, and the food here is really yuck and greasy and too sweet or too salty. So my bulimia started here, with an unhealthy diet. It's hard in an unhealthy society to live a balanced life. In america, people either eat too unhealthily or really starve themselves with diets and excessive exercise. That's what I observed when I was in the states. You need to find a middle ground, which is the healthiest way to live. Smile
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monika11

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Posted: 07-22-04 09:47am

Well I came from poland. And there I was never even concerned with weight, I ate what I wanted. But I was also only 13 and was not into that stuff yet. I think I will tell my boyfriend first but hes on vacation now. Im scared but I think telling him first is best, then my parents. Do you think you will have to be on medication all your life since your thyroid is underactive? I tried to make an appointment to my doctor but the earliest I can go is in august. So I will have to hang on till then but im actually looking forward to going. I hope you thyroid problem will get better I really do youve done so much good and you are really trying and you deserve it. I hope I have your tetermination
i never thought that england has bad food like that, but you know there is a lot of girls with eating disorders in poland too. A lot of youg polish girls are pressured to be skinny and even if you are slightly overweight they will call you fat. When me and my parents go to family parties thats all the women talk about is diets and their fat, even though their not even fat at all. Their twigs. But theiy also dont have any boobs, ha ha . I avoid those parties anyway , for now.
Yesterday I ate normal and I thought about throwing up but I dont wanto and I didnt so thats good, what tempted me is I ate 2 spoons of puding and I was like what am I doing I m gonna eat the whole box so I just gave it to my brother and watched tv. I hate throwing up, because the more I do it the harder it is to do it. Some girls say that the more they do it the easier it is to throw up for them, that is not my case. So I never did it everyday b/c I wouldnt be able to do it b/c its to hard for me. Do you know why is that? I know eventually I will stop. The last time I did it was sunday. So I guess im clean for 3 days.
Im not goingto hide stuff from my doctor b/c I did it once and look where am I so I will tell them the truth, I dont have a problem with that now b/c I dont know them and for some reason that makes it easier for me. I hope everything goes well for both of us and other people here that are trying. :p
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Julie25

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Posted: 07-22-04 17:43pm

Well done, I am so proud of you. You have the right way of thinking to change your life. I'm glad you are looking forward to seeing the doctor, too. It will surely help you. Also, i'm glad you've made the decision to tell people about your illness. That is a big, important step, breaking the dangerous silence.

I didn't know that in poland it's bad with eating disorders. That is sad, especially what you wrote about the parties you go to and what the women say. You are right in avoiding that, or at least ignoring them, because it can make you worse. But eventually you will be strong enough to hear people talk about weight and not care so much. In germany, eating disorders are bad too, i've seen many anorexic girls, some of them very young. And two girls in my class were bulimic. Here in northern england there are actually quite a lot of fat people, so you don't feel so bad, at least not as bad as I felt in germany!

I've had the thyroid problem for a long time, maybe since birth, and nobody knows for sure whether it will get better. It might not. But even if I have to take the pills for the rest of my life (i hope not!), I can live with that much better than I can live with bulimia. It's not that bad. Thanks for your encouragement!

And congratulations to you for not vomiting when you felt like vomiting. That is an incredible achievement!!! You should be very proud of yourself. You are going the right way. Take it one day at a time. Every day that you get through without vomiting and without bingeing is a victory. You really deserve a pat on the back. You are much stronger than you think! Every day without bulimia is a good thing, because you are winning your life back, saving your life. A big hug to you! :d I have the feeling you will be alright, because you have quite a bit of determination. All you need now is some support, and a healthy eating plan to get you through the day. The best advice I can give you is to make a plan every day for what you will eat. That's what I learned in therapy. You have to plan, on paper, what you will eat, and at what time. Don't go longer than three to four hours without eating, or you will be too hungry. Eat 4 to 6 times a day, and only eat at the times that are specified in your plan. I can tell you, although you sometimes have to force yourself to write everything down, it is the best thing to do, because it helps you to recover. With a plan, you feel safe, because you know exactly when you are supposed to eat and when you are not supposed to eat. You have to eat three meals and two to three snacks. It sounds like a huge amount of food, but it isn't, if you make healthy choices. Try it, it really feels good and it helps you a lot. In fact, you will probably need to do it, because bulimics' eating is very disorganised, so we need a plan to guide us.

P.S. Even I found it harder over the years to vomit! I think that's because your body tries to hold on to as much food as possible, but i'm not sure. But it just kept getting harder and harder, and more disgusting too. So I know what you mean!! Shocked
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monika11

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Joined: 16 Jul 2004
Posts: 9

Posted: 07-22-04 18:40pm

I know its gonna be hard b/c it is already, but I kinda know I will be fine I guess im not that deep into it as I heard other people are. I always planned my meals and my binges too so all I have to do is eliminate the binges. Thank you for all your help. I just made an appountment for august 11 for my doc. I will definatly update you on it. I wish you luck :p I definatly know you will make it b/c you gave me tons of encouragment and your really smart. Thanks 4 everything
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