I read a story of a paranoid schizophrenic
on the internet. He says that during his
psychotic episode he has had problems with
memory. My question is:
are deterioration of
memory,intellect,orientation common
features in the acute schizophrenic
episode of paranoid schizophrenia?
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purple333
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Posted: 07-22-04 07:59am
Memory loss can happen through any number
of things: meds, pain, stress, anxiety,
mental &/or physical illness, episodes
etc - also age & hormonal imbalances
(in both men & women).
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guest
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R Posted: 07-24-04 05:33am
I have read that in paranoid schizophrenia
unlike other types of schizophrenia
cognitive functioning remains relatively
preserved.
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purple333
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Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
Posted: 07-24-04 23:34pm
You have obviously never met my
mother-in-law (a paranoid schizophrenic)
& definitely her cognitive & every
other function (in my admittedly biased
opinion!!) has been affected!!
However this conditon is absolutely no
different to any other physical or mental
illness/condition - every person is unique
- every persons reaction to the problem,
reactions to meds, degree of seriousness
of the problem etc - everything is unique
- there are no hard & fast rules for
anything.
You have to work out what meds,
treatments, alternatives etc work for you
& how you are going to deal with this
problem & how badly (or not) you are
affected by it. The experiences of others
can only be a guide not a bible or a
precise manual.
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ldynwaitin
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How to Get a Schizoprhenic Motivated?? Posted: 08-12-07 21:13pm
My sister's son has has been a Paranoid
Schizophrenic all of his life. He's 38
now, on disability and never had to work a
day in his life. He's a big strapping guy,
but has increasingly become very lazy, and
a problem for my sister. Her husband
recently passed away so it's just her and
her son right now.
He only started taking medication in his
early twenties. In that time he used to
get very ill on the medication. As of late
I found Abilify for him to take. Now he no
longer suffers the bad side effects of his
prior medications. He's become so much
better that we even heard him mumble that
the medication was working to good.
The problem with him is even though he
always taunts that P.S.' are usually
genius' and that he considers himself one,
he acts almost retarded. He relies totally
on his mother for everything. Since he's
home all the time his mother asks that he
helps around the house.
Unfortunately, not working all of his life
it's very hard to get him to do anything
physical. Living in Texas the grass grows
very fast down here. All my sister asks of
him is to mow the grass once a week. He
gripes that because of his condition he
cannot exert himself to much, or that he
hates sweating, or he's going to die if he
sweats to much. Living with a P.S. you all
know they find any excuse to get out of
something they don't want to do.
I fear for my nephews future health. I am
currently disabled, I have CFIDS. I'm a
firm believer of the expression, "If you
don't use it, you'll lose it." Even though
I may get sick for a few days, I still try
to do physical things around the house so
that I won't become an invalid.
How can you get a P.S. motivated? After
seeing a special on CNN about football
players dying from heat exhaustion now my
nephew refuses to mow the grass because he
swears he's like the football player who
could die from heat exhaustion. This is
the only physical exercise he gets in his
life. I don't want to get into one his
confrontational discussions. Once he gets
riled up, even on medication it's hard to
step away from him.
Can anyone give my sister some advice on
what she can do to get her son to do
something physical other than clicking a
button on the TV remote??
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Philo
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Posted: 08-13-07 09:44am
I know myself how hard it is to get
motivated to do things while you're
schizophrenic or even exercise a little.
All I feel like doing is staying in bed,
but that makes me feel even worse so I try
to do things. I spent a whole year just
watching TV, not able to move very much.
Schizophrenics are often considered lazy,
but that is not always the case -
sometimes they just can't do very much. I
cannot really tell what the situation is
with your family member, whether he's
really lazy or just catatonic. You can try
letting him know of the harmful effects of
inactivity. He can get seriously sick in
later life from just sitting around and
die at an early age.
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ldynwaitin
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Posted: 08-13-07 11:13am
Philo
wrote:
I know myself how hard it is
to get motivated to do things while you're
schizophrenic or even exercise a little.
All I feel like doing is staying in bed,
but that makes me feel even worse so I try
to do things. I spent a whole year just
watching TV, not able to move very much.
Schizophrenics are often considered lazy,
but that is not always the case -
sometimes they just can't do very much. I
cannot really tell what the situation is
with your family member, whether he's
really lazy or just catatonic. You can try
letting him know of the harmful effects of
inactivity. He can get seriously sick in
later life from just sitting around and
die at an early
age.
Thanks for your reply. He's not catatonic.
He's almost normal, just have to watch
what you say to him. Sometimes he just
gets so defensive or takes things totally
wrong. Since he's never worked a day in
his life, he doesn't know what it's like
to get up in the morning, no matter how
bad you feel, and have to go to work. I
think his main problem is he's using his
condition as a crutch to keep from doing
things.
I know the abilify has made a world of
difference in his mental health. It's
almost like talking to a normal person
now. He very rarely fights with us
anymore. I now fear for his health. When
he was bad my sister walked on eggs. She
didn't want to get into an argument with
him.
He's six foot three and weights 275
pounds. Someone you don't want to get into
an argument with. I do fear for his health
because he just plain doesn't want to do
anything physical that will make him
sweat. He'll say it's not good to sweat,
that it will kill him. Or that "You don't
understand, I can't work hard because of
my condition." I can't count how many
times I've heard that. He won't listen to
us because he said everyone is different,
and that we don't know what it's like to
be him.
I think what he needs is to see and speak
with others with his condition, that do
have a nearly normal life. And know that
pushing a lawn mower, or a broom is not
going to give him a heart attack. I tell
him the opposite will happen. That if he
doesn't do some kind of physical activity
that he may end up having a heart attack
from all the fat built up in his heart or
veins.
Once again I thank you for your reply. I'm
going to print it out and let him see it.
Coming from someone that he can see knows
what he's going through I hope it may give
him some incentive.
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Wisher
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Posted: 08-19-07 00:51am
I hate the idea of my life going to waste
because of this disease.... I want to work
hard and get a career, Im going to do my
best to keep this from bringing me down,
no matter what it takes.
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FANTABULOUS
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Re: How to Get a Schizophrenic Motivated?? Posted: 09-02-07 23:50pm
ldynwaitin
wrote:
... The problem with him is
even though he always taunts that P.S.'
are usually genius' and that he considers
himself one, he acts almost retarded. He
relies totally on his mother for
everything. Since he's home all the time
his mother asks that he helps around the
house. ....
I have discovered that
certain levels of genius are being shut
down. They are simply not being allowed to
live their lives. To add to this, they
are being set up to appear to have the
opposite of their true intellect.
To understand why, you have to understand
suffice enough to know why reality is as
it is. You must understand what is
intended in the long run. In other words,
you must understand the structure of its
intentional design.
Unfortunately the world is full of
athletic intellectuals, who being
athletic, jump enormous distance to reach
a self satisfying conclusion, no matter
what brutal consequences this throws upon
others. Without question, they jump up
and over the truth. Thus the character
know as Satan has taken advantage of them
and has set the scene such that no one is
allowed to be any greater than another to
such a point that if you are you will be
classified as someone who is nothing more
than an individual who is experiencing
delusions of grandeur.
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FANTABULOUS
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Posted: 02-11-08 04:07am
Funny how I seem to be soooooooh much
related to Jesus Christ, isn't it !
But this is said not by my personal words,
but by the information encoded within the
bible.
See Shroud of Turin Bible Codes also.
http
://www.outersecrets.com/real/biblecode_shr
oud_turin.htm
But as I said, unfortunately the world is
full of athletic intellectuals, who being
athletic, jump enormous distance to reach
a self satisfying conclusion.
In short, the world is full of people who
are quite happy with beliefs. Beliefs are
incomplete and thus do not provide a
person with direct contact with the truth.
Thus the world is full of people who are
quite happy with less than truth. Thus if
truth is presented to them, it sits beyond
their belief capacity since beliefs are
incomplete. Thus they reject these
complete truths since they do not agree
with incompleteness.
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Philo
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Posted: 02-11-08 19:36pm
Why do you keep repeating the same thing
all the time? We get the point.
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FANTABULOUS
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Posted: 02-11-08 22:58pm
Philo
wrote:
Why do you keep repeating
the same thing all the time? We get the
point.
My apologies. I had no
idea that the " We " that you speak of,
represented all of mankind. I therefore
also apologize for having updated the http
://www.outersecrets.com/real/biblecode_shr
oud_turin.htm web site page last night
to give further hope.
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woops
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Posted: 02-17-08 19:19pm
I have somekind of trouble with my memory.
I am inclined to forget some things but
other things stick to me like glue.
For example, I can't remember what I ate
yesterday or the day before, but I can
remember very well the major scale and the
minor scale on guitar. In fact, it gets a
little eerie the things that I remember
opposed to the things that I don't.
eerie.
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Philo
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Posted: 02-18-08 12:24pm
In other words you have trouble with your
short-term memory, not your long-term
memory.
