I just cant build up my abs, ive had a
4-pack for like 2 years. I been doin a
bunch of sit-ups and them bicycle things
every night for the past 3 or 4 months.
Im eating less calories, and I just cant
get that 6-pac. Any suggestions?
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eric16
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 07-31-04 20:42pm
Cant just do sit ups do get abs. You need
a variety o ab excercises that target each
part of your abs. You also need to lose
weight for your ab muscles to show. Diet
and variety.
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miller2190
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Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 58 Location: GA
Posted: 08-01-04 00:53am
I heard that the bicycle workout targets
every area. And im eating less.
If you are to remain healthy, you have to
eat sufficent calories to "feed" your body
- the calories needed will increase as you
exercise more!!! So unless you are
overweight you should not be eating less
but more - look at how much top athletes
eat!!
Cycling isn't really an ab workout, go to
a gym or do some on-line research (if $$
are a problem) to determine a total body
work out including abs but also to
determine what your weight<>height
ratio is now & also what your
muscle<>fat ratio is (remember too
that muscle weighs more than fat).
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miller2190
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Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 58 Location: GA
Posted: 08-01-04 22:07pm
I dont mean cycling, I mean that ab
workout. Called the bicycle or somethin,
you get in a crunch position, and your
"pedal" your legs and touch opposite knees
with your elbows. Its suppost to target
all the sections.
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purple333
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Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
Posted: 08-02-04 12:00pm
I see well then the cycling is fine but
you made no comment re the rest of my
post!! Are you eating enough to get
sufficient calories to "feed" you body
given the amount of exercise you're doing?
Also what about your height/weight &
muscle/fat ratios??
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eric16
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 08-02-04 19:17pm
Dont just do cycling. Do one ab excercise
for each part of your abs. There are 3
types of excercises you should do.
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purple333
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Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
Posted: 08-02-04 20:48pm
Since information is a hard concept for
you to grasp - i'll help - try to be abit
helpful & explain what actual
exercises he should be doing!! Don't just
say
"do one ab excercise for each part of your
abs. There are 3 types of excercises you
should do."
how vague is that but it is definitely
unhelpful!!!!
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eric16
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 08-03-04 00:20am
purple333
wrote:
since information is a hard
concept for you to grasp - i'll help - try
to be abit helpful & explain what
actual exercises he should be doing!!
Don't just say
"do one ab excercise for each part of your
abs. There are 3 types of excercises you
should do."
how vague is that but it is definitely
unhelpful!!!!
why dont I tell the person what needs to
be done and let him reasearch for himself
and learn a little. Let them researrch
and learn on there own without hand
feeding them information. See hat
different excercises the person like cause
there are many out there.
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purple333
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Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
Posted: 08-03-04 02:51am
Fine but how about giving the person
seeking help an indication of where to
find the information - would that be so
hard - if as in your introductory post to
the fitness forums you are truly here to
help that would seem to be appropriate -
but then my question is are you really
here to help or merely to take digs at
others & try to show your
superiority?? Not that you are merely
that you think you are.
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eric16
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 08-03-04 10:35am
purple333
wrote:
fine but how about giving
the person seeking help an indication of
where to find the information - would that
be so hard - if as in your introductory
post to the fitness forums you are truly
here to help that would seem to be
appropriate - but then my question is are
you really here to help or merely to take
digs at others & try to show your
superiority?? Not that you are merely
that you think you
are.
your the only one tryng to attempt to call
me out. Why is that. Becasuse many
people know what to do with my
information. They end up learning so much
if they research on there own. I am
helping many people, apparently your the
only one that cant see that.
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miller2190
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 58 Location: GA
Posted: 08-03-04 21:55pm
purple333
wrote:
i see well then the cycling
is fine but you made no comment re the
rest of my post!! Are you eating enough
to get sufficient calories to "feed" you
body given the amount of exercise you're
doing? Also what about your
height/weight & muscle/fat
ratios??
i dont really know how much im eating, I
eat when I get up cause I hear that it
boosts your matabalism, then I might eat
something little like a grilled chease or
hot dog, then I eat supper and then goto
bed a few hours later. Im 5-8, around
130-135 pounds. Last time I got tested,
around 6 months ago, I had 7% body fat.
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eric16
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 08-04-04 00:44am
miller2190
wrote:
purple333
wrote:
i see well then the cycling
is fine but you made no comment re the
rest of my post!! Are you eating enough
to get sufficient calories to "feed" you
body given the amount of exercise you're
doing? Also what about your
height/weight & muscle/fat
ratios??
i dont really know how much im eating, I
eat when I get up cause I hear that it
boosts your matabalism, then I might eat
something little like a grilled chease or
hot dog, then I eat supper and then goto
bed a few hours later. Im 5-8, around
130-135 pounds. Last time I got tested,
around 6 months ago, I had 7% body
fat.
huh? It sounds like you eat nothing and
none of it is very healthy. What do you
eat. Give a better layout of your diet.
You are very thin, however in order to get
a 6-pack you dont want to eat less. Sure
it may sound like you would but this is
false. You need to eat healthy and
probably more. If you eat less and starve
yourself then you are making it worse.
You are not giving your body enough energy
of nutrients to make muscle. Dont just
work your abs too. Work the whole body.
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purple333
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Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
Posted: 08-04-04 01:43am
Miller2190,
for the next ewek keep a "diary" (it
doesn't have to be 100% accurate but keep
it) of what you eat & how much
(there's a difference between grilled
cheese - which is what my daughter has -
wait for eric's sarcasm - & grilled
cheese on toast or 3 grilled cheese on
toast!!) & also how much & what
type of exercises you do - like 30 minute
fast or slow walk to class, 1 hour of
swimming laps - slow etc.
Also indicate in the diary how many hours
you sleep & how many hours a day you
spend sitting (tv, class, computer,
reading etc) -all this will give you a
truer idea of whether you are doing enough
exercise, whether you are eating enough
(& enough of the right foods) &
whether maybe there is something else you
could/shoulkd look into - saide from
different ab exercises - check out these
sites for starters - I went to google
& typed exercises to develop abs:
I eat pretty much, for breakfast usually a
few eggs, dontk now if theyre healthy or
not, they keep changin weather theyre
healthy or not, then for lunch I usually
eat a griolled cheese, or more eggs, or
maybe heated up pizza. Then dinner is
always different, pizza, chicken, pork,
roast beef, sometimes eggs (i like eggs).
I never eat fast food, so I think I eat
fairly healthy and enough. I rarely ever
exercise, but I usually play baseball, or
go golfin, or swimmin during the day. And
my main exercise is in the evening at work
when I gotta walk around alot, and lift
50-100 pound crates, and walk places with
em, mostly in a room with 170 degree steam
everywhere that makes it really hot.
Does that count as exercise?
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eric16
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Posted: 08-04-04 19:31pm
miller2190
wrote:
i eat pretty much, for
breakfast usually a few eggs, dontk now if
theyre healthy or not, they keep changin
weather theyre healthy or not, then for
lunch I usually eat a griolled cheese, or
more eggs, or maybe heated up pizza.
Then dinner is always different, pizza,
chicken, pork, roast beef, sometimes eggs
(i like eggs). I never eat fast food, so
I think I eat fairly healthy and enough.
I rarely ever exercise, but I usually play
baseball, or go golfin, or swimmin during
the day. And my main exercise is in the
evening at work when I gotta walk around
alot, and lift 50-100 pound crates, and
walk places with em, mostly in a room with
170 degree steam everywhere that makes it
really hot. Does that count as
exercise?
this is what I am gettinng-
breakfast- few eggs
lunch- grilled cheese/eggs/pizza
dinner-various kind of meat ususally
this is not good at all. You should be
eating amounts of food 5-6 times a day.
You need to get carbs, protein, and
calcium. You need some fruit and vegies
and something more then eggs. Eat more
and healthy. Dont be aftraid to eat more.
If you are hungry then go right ahead and
eat, however make sure it is healthy. You
need to eat more I think and you need to
make better food choices. Look around for
healthy diets.
Your excercise is something, however I
dont think it is enough. The heat wont
make a difference in your workout besides
tire you out sooner. I would start a full
body workout and do it 2 times a week.
Make sure you get all bodyparts- chest,
back, legs, shoulders, arms. Search and
look for a full body routine. I posted
one on another thread, probably right
below this one. Learn proper lifting
techniques and start slow. Learn how to
eat right and lift right.
Eric the point in stating what my daughter
has re grilled cheese is that there are
differences (get the idea different) ways
of having everything - so it is relevant -
if I were here merely to please you I
could say "some people have just cheese
grilled - on nothing - while others have
it on toast & perhaps others have it
on something else" - but why shouldn't I
say that my daughter has it grilled on
it's own, or that I have margarine (as we
here do) on sandwiches we don't have mayo
the way you in the states do - but I can
say what I consider relevant whether it
relates to my daughter or not - I am not
here to say what you think I should
say!!
Miller,
you do seem to be having too many eggs -
not good for cholesterol etc & also by
eating them you are not getting enough
fruit, vegetables, nuts, dairy etc. Some
people benefit from eating 4-6 smaller
meals a day while others eat a huge
breakfast medium lunch & small dinner,
& others prefer 3 similar sized meals
a day - we are all different - in terms of
metabolism & lifestyle therefore you
need to determine which style of eating is
best for your health & most suitable
for your lifestyle.
I partly disagree with eric so far as
exercise is concerned - working in such
heat/steam & carrying heavy loads may
well be alot of exercise it depends on how
far you walk carrynig these loads &
how many you carry etc. If you do do a
sport each day you are also getting a fair
amount of exercise - but it still depends
on whether you do something daily &
hopw "hard" you do it.
Since it's abs you are particularly
concerned about - go to the sites I listed
above.
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miller2190
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Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 58 Location: GA
Posted: 08-04-04 21:21pm
Alright thanks. I was lifing for 5
months, I had a fitness class at school,
we lifted 3 days a week, and play sports 2
days a week, didnt see and ab inprovement
at all, but I did get pretty strong from
that class, can now bench 158% of my body
weight. Dead lift 227%, and squat 165%.
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purple333
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Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
Eric You Asked So I Replied!! Posted: 08-04-04 23:20pm
If you do not want an answer do not ask a
question
or is such a simple concept beyond you??
Here is what you asked:
"however I just dont see the point in
stating your daughter has these grilled
cheese"
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eric16
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Joined: 27 Jul 2004 Posts: 134
Re: Eric You Asked So I Replied!! Posted: 08-04-04 23:49pm
purple333
wrote:
if you do not want an answer
do not ask a question
or is such a simple concept beyond you??
Here is what you asked:
"however I just dont see the point in
stating your daughter has these grilled
cheese"
you put a quote saying erics sarcasm so I
wanted to comment. It wasnt meant to be
taken that seriously and it is very
pointless right now so stop. You took it
the wrong way and it is usless to carry
his topic on.