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smith8500

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a Mur Derers Fate?
Posted: 08-22-04 19:41pm

Gloria rivera is the sister of reinaldo j. Rivera who mur dered my sister-in-law almost 5 years ago. This is what I wrote. She wrote some stuff on a website she had made for her brother defending his actions..... Hehe, guess what! I got the website shut down with this letter~ Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil f*ck with me biotch! Hehe!



I am writing this to whomever wants to take the time to read it. I am writing in regard to what gloria rivera put on the website defending her brother against the guards at the prison.
Gloria wrote: “we still don't know when the trial will begin, but what we know is that he will be tried for the death penalty. How can you prepare yourself for the death of one of your family members?. My brother doesn't want to live, he has tried to plead guilty, but the lawyers won't accept his plea or even the judge, so this is very confusing and long situation. For me, this is a slow death and this is the worst death.”

no, the worst and slow death is the deaths that melissa dingess, tabitha bosdell, marni glista, and tiffaney wilson faced. The loss of their life for some unknown reason. In tiffaney’s case, slaughtered while her baby sat nearby in her car seat. Tiffaney died not knowing what was going to happen to kaitlyn. Sure reinaldo told her that he would not hurt kaitlyn but I want you to trust the guy that is killing you. I think gloria insulted these women when she compared reinaldo’s vacation in prison to the worst death. These 4 girls take the cake on worst death as compared to the monster. And we sure weren’t able to prepare for their deaths!


Gloria writes: “i have been involved with the lawyers 100%. I found a very good psychologist to help us understand this horrible thing and will help us in court. I have had long conversation thru mail with my brother to also understand why and to tell you the truth, he doesn't know why. He can explained to me what he feels, but he doesn't know how to control them.”

oh how sad. Is that supposed to tear me up inside, poor reinaldo is unable to control his sex drive and also unable to tell why he did this. That poor man. I guess that would be the case then for everyone, they couldn’t control themselves so we must feel sorry for them. I think not!


Gloria writes “sadly, there are many who are not even guilty. They, too, suffer injustice, abuse, neglect and deprivation. If you speak to anyone who has had the misfortune of dealing with "the system," you will learn there are as many corrupt guards, officials and authority figures on the outside of the bars as there are on the inside. Sadly, you quickly learn that you can't object, question, inquire or attempt to improve the treatment of your loved one because, if you do, your loved one and you will most certainly suffer the consequences. Even the most simple question can bring about retaliation - such as physical abuse, a much more hostile environment, denial of visitation, denial of mail and/or phone contact and denial of the "privilege" of leaving allowable items for your loved one.”

and yes, I agree, there are many people who sit in prison, some even dying there who didn’t do anything, but reinaldo confessed. He told of how he did it, where he did it, etc…. So I guess he doesn’t count here right! And no, you have no voice, defending a monster, I don’t think you deserve to have a voice!


Gloria writes: “the fact is, whether guilty or innocent, all citizens are entitled to certain basic human rights. I've learned since this happened that there are hundreds of abuses of inmates every day all over the world. For most people, this doesn't matter, because they feel if the person is in jail, he is getting what he deserves - no matter what that might be, especially the people who have committed crimes of the magnitude of my brother's.”

reinaldo gave up his basic human rights when he proved that he wasn’t human. He proved that he wasn’t an animal. He is a monster and as far as I am concerned, if he gets beat to death by a guard while in prison, I defend that guard 100% only because reinaldo confessed to his crimes and has no remorse!

These are a few things gathered from the news articles and although you have to consider the media, these are reinaldo’s direct comments, find me some remorse in here.


1) melissa dingess had to die so he could remain free, reinaldo j. Rivera told detectives last fall.
It was that simple, brutal logic, that one thought racing through his brain july 17, 1999, that led him to strangle the petite 17-year-old, mr. Rivera said.
Differing from more than 200 other rape victims, mrs. Dingess wasn't a prostitute like a woman he was accused of assaulting years before in washington, d.C., a woman who didn't pursue charges in a case he beat.
After his first rape, ``i realized right there how easy it was ... To force yourself on them,'' mr. Rivera said. He wanted that domination, that control, he explained to richmond county sheriff's sgt. Wayne bunton and investigator richard roundtree in a statement taped oct. 14. ``she was so little, so easy (to rape),'' mr. Rivera said. But he knew he couldn't just let her go afterward, he said. The same went for his next area victim, tiffaney wilson, 17, on dec. 4, 1999; and for tabitha bosdell, 18, on june 22; and for army sgt. Marni glista, 21, on sept. 4; and for the 18-year-old augusta woman he intended to kill oct. 10, he told the investigators. ``you wouldn't recognize me around girls. I have it down pat. I know exactly what to say,'' he said.


This passage from the augusta chronicle rivera discusses slaying motive web posted thursday, april 19, 2001
2) ``anyone with any common sense should have had a red flag,'' mr. Rivera said of his constant approach to women. Asked by lt. Anderson whether mrs. Wilson lacked common sense, mr. Rivera said, ``as regard to common sense, I would tell you (mrs. Wilson) had the same common sense as most women her age. Unfortunately, she was dealing with me.'' it is obvious in the statement “unfortunately, she was dealing with me” that shows that he was very much aware of his actions and his abilities.


3) his own defense attorney say’s this: ''he's an incredibly complex individual,'' mr. Johnson said of his client. The court-appointed defense team has asked for funds to hire a forensic psychiatrist to examine mr. Rivera. ''this is not your routine homicide case. Like I said, there is nothing routine about ray rivera.



On this website for reinaldo, they say “the public never hears the human side, they only meet the monster the media creates. Reinaldo's sister, gloria, exposes her family's pain to tell this story about her brother in order to help people understand some really important things about people like reinaldo.”
well, i’ve heard more than the media’s share on reinaldo and the media didn’t create the monster, the media lets everyone know about him. That is like saying, if a teenager goes blow up his high school. Someone somewhere will blame it on tv or the music he liked. Excuses excuses!




Wow, lets take a look at this one:
nobody saw it coming.
Not the washington court authorities who dismissed his case after he allegedly sliced a prostitute's hand in 1989.
Not the navy disciplinarians who let him off with an other-than-honorable discharge when a bust for soliciting a minor in a texas suburb turned up a stack of lurid, homemade videos - at least one involving an underage girl - and a duffel bag filled with condoms, a 35 mm camera and a large knife.
Not the south carolina police who questioned and released him after reports he was harassing young girls in aiken.
Not his wife, who stuck by him through the messy collapse of his military career, his sporadic employment as a used-car salesman and even a bankruptcy claim in 1997.
And certainly not his friends, co-workers and fellow sailors, who saw him as harmless and, in retrospect, almost too ordinary.


And
the teen and a friend alerted police, who were waiting for him when he arrived at the rendezvous. Mr. Rivera was charged with soliciting a minor, but the case was turned over to the navy.
When they searched his chevrolet camaro, nueces county police found a vinyl duffel bag containing a bottle of baby oil, a tube of lubricant, a camera, prophylactics and a sheathed knife, according to a navy criminal investigation report. They also found a video recorder and a videotape.
The tape showed mr. Rivera having sex with a 16-year-old girl, the report states, and he admitted to having other sexually explicit videos at home. Another search turned up three tapes whose content the report does not explain
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differing from more than 200 other rape victims, mrs. Dingess wasn't a prostitute like a woman he was accused of assaulting years before in washington, d.C., a woman who didn't pursue charges in a case he beat.
Reinaldo said that. Wow, does that admit to the prostitute cases or what?




Basically my point in writing this was to show that dear gloria rivera needs to do her homework before defending this monster. I can dispute anything she wants to and or has said.
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rissalee21

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Posted: 08-22-04 20:15pm

That health forum is crazy..Omg how the hell can you defend that? Theres no way! Ugh that angers me off..

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marisa
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tweety12986

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Posted: 08-22-04 21:02pm

She is stupid, i'm glad whoever read your letter had more sense than she did.
Meagan
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Michelle1337

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Posted: 08-22-04 21:08pm

Wow - that lady is crazy....
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babyrae

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Posted: 08-22-04 21:20pm

Shes stupid.... She can try and defend him all she wants but its obvious... He is a monster..

Shauna
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sparklypixie12

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Posted: 08-23-04 08:22am

Evil or
Very Mad
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sweetsuzi

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Posted: 08-23-04 08:42am

If he was my brother I would be disgusted and disown him. I would leave him to rot in jail.
How can she as a woman write something like that. Women were his obvious target and she was probably just at as much risk as any of his victims. It's a disgrace..
Why do so many of these guys slip through the net of justice. It's so sad that minor laws let these monsters out to share freedom with the rest of us and the innocent victims they prey apon!!
I hope he dies a slow death so he has time to think about everything he has done and what will lie ahead of him as a higher punishment.

Take the soham murders here in britain. Two little girls taken away and murdered by the school janitor. Who was able to change his name after raping girls and then to top it all off getting a job in a prep school without the necessary police checks. I dont understand this world sometimes!!
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sparklypixie12

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Posted: 08-23-04 08:45am

That made me so mad Evil or
Very Mad those poor little girls would have never been killed if there was a decent background check done on huntley Evil or
Very Mad I hope he rots in hell
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sweetsuzi

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Posted: 08-23-04 08:54am

I sometime wish we had the death penalty here. He will have a nice wee cosy life in prison if the other prisoners dont get to him mind you? I think he has his own we secluded part. With a tv and all that there. As for her, she needs to spend the rest of her life in jail too I dont belive she had nothing to do with it, she probably came back and helped him clean up the house. Not write a book about it and reap in the profits grrr also not have a new identity and a new house that we pay for angers me soo much
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Katherine19

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Posted: 08-23-04 12:23pm

Twisted Evil thats so messed up!
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smith8500

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Hey
Posted: 08-23-04 13:16pm

I recall reading about those two girls. My heart goes out to them adn their families.
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2ferano

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Posted: 08-24-04 02:27am

I couldn't read that whole thing because it was pissin me off. But what I did read was great on your part chanda.

That girl is crazy. Her and anyone who agrees with her. Argue with me all you want, I don't care:homicide ers, pedaphiles and rapists do not deserve to live! We need to get rid of them as soon as we know they are a danger! No, they don't have basic human rights because they aren't human. They are disgusting beasts!

Yes, innocent people do sit in jail and get raped/beat, etc, and that is sickening and horribly unfair. The system isn't perfect and that really stinks. Guilty people get set free all of the time and innocent people get imprisoned also. It sucks!

But if you have raped/molested or homicide ed, you deserve to be raped, beaten and have your life be a living hell!
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