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Dynasty

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Mellybaby
Posted: 08-15-03 11:03am

I agree wit mellybaby...Ur so ryt dat y even hav an abortion dats lik a gift from god u knw y jus let go wen it was ur fault u knw but things happens..Lik me im realy yung n im in a scary situation...If eny1 wood wanna talk or giv me advice I wood help n wood giv thnx to da plz who wood giv me advice....Mi aim>jayswifey249....Thx Cool
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HongKongChick

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Posted: 08-15-03 17:44pm

Abortion or not is the girl's choice.

I agree that no one should give up their own child if she is capable of raising her child!

But what if she is immature, has no one to help her, or she does not have the money to? Then, are we gonna give her money to raise the child? Are we gonna go to her house and help out? And are we gonna get a degree for her? Or complete her ged for her? No. Even though I dont like abortion, but that's not our choice, the last decision will be made by the girl.

And just as u know, I do not like bringing god into this! I dont believe that putting god on the table is the way to go either.

So whatever you want to do, I will be here to help

plus the world is over populated as it is, we dont really need any more immature mothers going partying with their child and being brought on to the jenny jones or rikke lake;s shows... Really :p
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blu_eyes00

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Posted: 08-15-03 18:09pm

I totally agree with hongkongchick. Abortion is the female's choice. No one should tell her she should or shouldnt do it. It is her body. Fortunately I have never been in the position to make this decision, but if I were, depending on the circumstances, my fiance and I would probably opt for abortion at this stage in our lives.

It is easy enough to speculate what you might do if you were in this position, but until you really are, I dont think it is right to judge. I do agree with the notion that if you have sex, you should be prepared for the consequences, yet ppl who do take every percaution (ie.Pill +condom) still get pregnant.

Is it realy fair for a young female to raise a child, when this female is too young to raise herself yet?? The child will only end up suffering.

I know a girl who had a kid when she was 15....She had to leave high school...But unfortunately never went back...So now has no high school education, and therefore has prevented herself from a decent future with any form of financial stability....And the worst part is that this girl's child is now suffering through poverty, children's aid, and a very immature mother. Crying
or Very sad

i just wish all these "bible-thumpers" would lay off this anti-pro choice sentiment and would leave these private decisions up to the would-be mothers of these fetuses. Evil or
Very Mad i'm not knocking religion at all here - I have no intention of steppin on anyone's feet here (im roman catholic myself). But in no way should religion dictate what society should permit. My only concern is that ppl may begin to abuse abortion...And use it as a back-up form of contraception...

Sorry...That was my little rant. Heat is starting to get to me here. Stupid black-out. Friggen 21st century and limited electricity for 2 days! Cool
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HongKongChick

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Posted: 08-15-03 19:50pm

blu_eyes00 wrote:

i just wish all these "bible-thumpers" would lay off this anti-pro choice sentiment and would leave these private decisions up to the would-be mothers of these fetuses. Evil or
Very Mad i'm not knocking religion at all here - I have no intention of steppin on anyone's feet here (im roman catholic myself). But in no way should religion dictate what society should permit. My only concern is that ppl may begin to abuse abortion...And use it as a back-up form of contraception...


me too! U are like my twin sister, thinking the same thing :p

i think having the freedom to choose abortion is great, but then some women abuse that freedom and then people think it's not a good idea to legalize abortion, implying taking away a woman's freedom.

We as women dont have enough equality as it is, and this freedom which concerns women the most is being judged in a bad way? I dont think we should allow that to happen!

I am sure that a child in poverty rather not be born than suffer everyday.

And the religion thing? I am a christian myself, but I do believe that this is in fact the 21st century, many rules and regulations from beginning of time can give a little slack and a little change.

I think that's enough for this topic coz I dont want to cause any rage or any hardship on this young lady or any one who has commented here.

Sorry for being a bit harsh! :p no hard feelings Smile
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broadcastedlife

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Posted: 08-17-03 03:34am

I was raped and pregnant, but my boyfriend said he would take care of the baby like his own... My mom said she would not let me have an abortion.. Shs smart.. No matter what its your baby.
Amanduh .X
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Santacruz85

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Baby Or No Baby
Posted: 08-23-03 01:59am

I say keep the baby love him or her and give the baby the life you would want. I know it will be hard but love that baby. I say its a keeper
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carvytaph

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Posted: 08-23-03 20:25pm

I desire not to be a "bible-thumper" as you word it, but to reason with your contradicting statements.

Hongchongchick:

you say you are a christian, yet you refuse to bring god into the situation?
Is he not the reason for your religion? As for giving rules slack. What is the point of the rules if they are broken and not followed? Abortion is not a rule, but a commandment which still stands as a law to this day. homicide is wrong! How can there be slack on that? Well, people have adopted the thought that it is not considered "killing" if they don't consider the precious life inside of you as a human fetus, but a lump of mass (which I might add has fingers, toes, and a visible heart beat).

The fact that we shouldn't be "making her decision for her" is absurd. Obviously no one can except her. But she is the one who ask us for our opinions in the first place. I am stating mine.

If you believe in something...A religion as some may say...Don't change it to fit your circumstances or to make your wrong decisions right. Live by what you believe.
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Tanya

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Posted: 08-23-03 22:10pm

I dont agree with abortion but who am I to judge anyone who has or wants to have one? Would I think badly of them? No of course not, I can only imagine what a painful decision that must have been, and unfortunately will have to live with any guilt she had over it (if any) for the rest of her life. About having the right to choose whether you have an abortion because its "their body" and "their choice" is absurd. Your right to choose should never ever exceed someone's absolute right to live and not die. This has nothing to do with god or religion (im not much religious myself), it is simply moral logic. Killing someone is wrong and abortion is killing someone. So abortion is wrong. Very logical.
Let me make it clear however these are my views and I dont by any means judge anyone for any past or present choices they have made. It's sad and thats all.
If you dont want your baby then give it up for adoption to someone who really wants a child, and cant have one of their own. People are becoming more and more leniant while using protection because they think "oh well if I get pregnant I can have an abortion". It's saddening it really is...These poor innocent beings are being killed.
I've already lost my point so i'll stop now.
Tanya*xo
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HongKongChick

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Posted: 08-25-03 23:57pm

carvytaph wrote:
hongchongchick:

you say you are a christian, yet you refuse to bring god into the situation?

Is he not the reason for your religion? As for giving rules slack. What is the point of the rules if they are broken and not followed? Abortion is not a rule, but a commandment which still stands as a law to this day. homicide is wrong! How can there be slack on that? Well, people have adopted the thought that it is not considered "killing" if they don't consider the precious life inside of you as a human fetus, but a lump of mass (which I might add has fingers, toes, and a visible heart beat).


The fact that we shouldn't be "making her decision for her" is absurd. Obviously no one can except her. But she is the one who ask us for our opinions in the first place. I am stating mine.


If you believe in something...A religion as some may say...Don't change it to fit your circumstances or to make your wrong decisions right. Live by what you believe.


i am sorry, have I met you before? If not, I dont believe u absolutely know me. And have u met jesus? If you have, please ask him to not let u judge me like you know me, thanks
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blu_eyes00

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Posted: 08-26-03 18:33pm

Carvytaph:
no one's religious beliefs should ever be imposed on another. What one individual interprets/believes is that individual's choice. One person's religious beliefs has no right what so ever to dictate societal laws, or be used to justify negativities directed towards someone who does not share in the same beliefs. One religious belief is not more important than another, and same goes for personal beliefs on this topic.

It just bugs me to no end when people start using religion to justify arguments, especially something like abortion. Not everyone believes in the same religion or the same god...Therefore religion cannot be used as the basis of anti-abortion arguments. If someone decides to have an abortion, that is their choice. If you yourself ever are in that situation, likewise, it is your choice, and no one should judge you either way for whatever decision you would make.

Hongkongchick.....I hear ya! We must be twins! Hehe Laughing
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carvytaph

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Posted: 08-31-03 15:28pm

Hongkongchick:

you are not a bad person. I am not judging you for any of your thinking. I do not know you. I was reading your message, but I got confused because you said that you were a christian yet you refuse to let god into your situations. Sorry! I just thought letting him into your life was indeed_being_a christian. Thought they went hand in hand. Thought saving humanity was part of being a christian and keeping our morals right. homicide is a law not only part of religion. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I am not judging you but trying to comprehend what you are saying.

I have asked god and he said that I wasn't judging you. I was trying to understand you. But he did say that I was too hard on you. I am sorry for the misunderstanding. My fault.

Please accept my apology. The only thing I am trying to accomplish is to see the other side of their thinking. Make them sure of what they believe.
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carvytaph

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Correction
Posted: 08-31-03 15:31pm

***to_help_them to see the other side of their argument, and to make them sure of what they believe.
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JenniMarie

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Re: Baby Or No Baby?
Posted: 09-04-03 11:31am

If you really want the answer go read "diary of an unborn baby" its on this page just a couple stroies up from yours.. That will change your mind real quick..... Crying
or Very sad
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