Back Probs And Med Questions Posted: 09-01-04 12:59pm
I am 26 years old and have quite a story
to tell. I realize that my problems are
far less than some of yours that I have
read, but I still would like to know if
any of you have similar stories to share
or any good advise. My back pain started
when I was 4 months pregnant and was 22
years old. I took only regular strength
tylenol when I was at work only when I had
to. Amazingly, it helped the pain!
Then next pain offense was right after my
child was born, I slipped down some stairs
and hit my tail bone about 5 times on the
steps. I busted about 3 of my stiches
"down there" and I had to sit on a
doughnut (invalid ring) for months after
that. I eventually recovered from that,
but had pain off and on in my lower and
upper back and legs. Between then and
now, things have gotten much worse. In
june of this year, I had to quit working
b/c of my back pain. Because of the
pain, I could not sleep, sit, stand,
etc...Without hurting. I started seeing
a orthopedist Dr. At healthsouth in june.
I had several regular x-rays, showing
disc degeneration, and two bulging
discs/possibly small herniations. (if
there is a difference please tell me) I
was sent next for an mri, in which I cried
b/c of the pain of having to lie still.
At that time, no pain meds had been
prescribed, but you bet your bootie after
that mri I went right upstairs to my dr
and she prescribed me lortab 5. I was is
so much pain that I immediately took 2.
It helped some, but I was still pretty
uncomfortable. Anyhow, since then, I
have changed doctors b/c all that dr
wanted to do was give me pain rx and do
physical therapy. I was dying!!!! I
would take one of my husband's 10 mg
ambien, and wake up at about 6am in
terrible pain, and that was while taking
lortab 10!! My new doctor did more x-rays
and then did a milogram/ct scan. That
revealed that I had 2 bulging discs.
According to him, a lumbar block should
fix the problem...Hah. Since then, the
end of july, I have had 2 blocks. The
pain is again slowly but surely coming
back in my back and legs...With occasional
numbness and tingling in my left leg.
Otc meds and muscle relaxers do not touch
the pain. My internist has placed me on
elavil to supplement my prozac b/c it has
been found that triptaline sp.?
Antidepressants help pain. The only
thing it has done for me is make me soooo
sleepy! He also prescribed kolonopin as
a nerve med/muscle relaxer. I tried that
yesterday b/c my back pain was creeping
back and I was just a mental mess. I am
feeling trapped in my own body. The bad
thing is that my mother's back problems
started at 27 for her. She has been
diagnosed with early bone degen. Disease
and rheum. Arthritis. She has had a
major fusion in her back, but she has so
much nerve damage that they cannot do
anything else. She is on methadone for
pain management and an antidepressant for
pain/depression from pain. I think that
in about 5-7 years she will be in a wheel
chair. God help me, I don't want to end
up like that...But it is clear that I am
traveling down that path. My present dr
set me up for phys therapy again...Which
doesnt do much for me. It really only
makes me hurt worse. By the end of the
day, my entire back is hurting, my legs,
sciatic nerves (hips) and I just want to
die. I wonder if I just need to go to a
pain management specialist and be done
with it, or what. I had a rheumatoid
profile done, and I still havent' gotten
the results, but I know I have arthritis,
even if its not rheum. In no way do I
want to become some drug dependant junkie,
but in some ways, I am so tired of crying
and hurting, I would welcome a regular
regiment of pain meds to keep me to where
I can function. It is so hard to live
life like this and try to be a mommy and a
wife while I am hurting so bad and feeling
so trapped. I am also no help to my
family b/c I cannot work b.C of the pain!
Phys ther has gone nowhere two times,
chiropractics made me sooooooo much worse,
and now I am at a dead end with two epi
blocks in one month...And the pain is
coming back. I am also pretty miffed
b/c I can tell that my new orthopedist
thinks I am a med junkie. I asked for a
few pain pills to get me by until the next
block, and he looked at me with his head
cocked and said, "lets just try and get by
on tylenol until then. Okay?" I was
infuriated b/c this doctor obviously
thinks that I am an fool! Please help
me!
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jennjenn
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Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 30 Location: Alabama
Is There Anybody Out There?? Posted: 09-05-04 21:30pm
Hello?
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lori33
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Joined: 27 Jun 2004 Posts: 16
Posted: 09-06-04 18:16pm
Hi jenn,
i don't know why the posts here go
unanswered for so long. It helps
sometimes just to get support from someone
even if it is not the cure you are looking
for.
I wish I were a doctor and could help you,
but I am not.
I also have two herniated discs in my
lumbar spine, (l3-4 and l4-5) that are
called bulging by some doctors and
herniated by others. I do not know if
they mean the same thing. There is
degeneration in the discs, as well as
hips, and sacroiliac joints.
What helps the pain the most, but is not
good in the long term is prednisone. I
was actually told to take it for another
problem I have and I couldn't believe how
much it helped alleviate the pain. When
I tapered off it, the pain came back, but
not as bad. I am also on celebrex twice
a day, and tylenol with codeine as needed.
I try not to take the tylenol too much,
but sometimes I take it just before
bedtime if the pain is bad. It helps me
to sleep.
Recently I have started noticing a
tingling down my left leg. It scares me
a little thinking things might be getting
worse.
A lot of the movement in physical therapy
made my pain worse. One physical
therapist taught me isometric exercises
which help strengthen muscles with little
movement. That is better for me. You
may want to try that.
Hope you find relief. Keep me posted.
Lori
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jennjenn
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 30 Location: Alabama
Back Pain Posted: 09-06-04 21:57pm
The phys ther and doctor did want me to do
muscle/spine strengthing excercises in pt,
but all pt did was make me worse. The
leg tingling thing is telling you that a
nerve is being pinched by one of those
bulging/herniated discs. (i recently
found out that those are the same thing)
my phys ther showed me a diagram of a back
with bulgers, as I call them. She showed
me that when the bulge occurrs, not only
does the bulge affect the nerve, but the
inflammation that is in there can also
affect the nerve moreso than the bulge.
That is why you are getting the tingling
in your leg...Something is involving the
nerve, I would suspect. Some days my
legs, knees, and hips hurt more than my
back, and then some days they all hurt.
I wish I could have a "bottom-half ectomy"
and get a healthy replacement sometimes!
Thanks for the reply. I will ask about
the prednisone. I have heard that it is
not good to take prednisone for a long
period of time, (that is what a dentist
friend told me...I don't know if its true)
and of course it makes you swell up like a
balloon...I do know that. Good luck,
jennjenn
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lori33
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Jun 2004 Posts: 16
Posted: 09-07-04 20:48pm
Jenn,
thanks for the information. Now I know
why the prednisone helped, because it
relieves inflammation.
It is definitely not a good medicine to be
on high doses for long term, but in the
short term, it would provide relief.
I was prescribed a tapered dose for about
two weeks, starting at 40mg. And tapering
slowly off.
Long term side effects can include weight
gain, calcium loss, glaucoma.(at high
doses)
I am going to start exercising in a pool
tomorrow at the ymca. I am told it is
the best way to strengthen muscles without
hurting joints. Something to try if you
haven't already.
Lori
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PattyV
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Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1103 Location: Chicago area
Posted: 09-10-04 23:02pm
Hey,jen.I just read your post and I have
to say ,you've been through the wringer!!I
truly hope that you get some resolution to
your pain.I don't have the same problem as
you,but pilates has helped me greatly!I
was very skepitcal at first,but I have
improved with 3-4 times a week .I have a
dvd at home and our local park district
has a class once a week.I have found that
not moving makes the pain much worse and
nightime is the worst!Hope you are able to
find a solution.Patty
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jennjenn
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 30 Location: Alabama
Am I a Two Headed Purple Monkey? Posted: 09-12-04 03:03am
I am having
restless arms now. It is driving me
crazy!!!! Night before last I was so
groggy and sleepy and every time I would
fall asleep, I would wave my arms around
because I just had to! I think that is
muscular. There is a light at the end
of my tunnel...Hopefully. I have an
appt with the rheumatologist that my mom
went to this thursday. Maybe they can
link some of my problems with my mom's and
we can find out if we share some of these
weird autoimmune diseases. Some of our
factors are so similar it's scary. It
would be so nice to not feel like a crazy
dummy, or to not have doctors looking at
me like i'm a two headed chimpanzee with
purple fur. (and to not be treated like
a druggie when I am hurting so bad that I
could sever my own limbs) isn't respect a
nice thing when you do get it? Hmmm, I
guess the next time that doctor has a
tooth ache, I hope his dentist tells him,
oh, let's just take some tylenol until we
can do that root canal on your bombed out
abcessed tooth...In the next week or two.
Just gargle with some listerine for that
fistula that tastes so bad. You'll be
alright buddy, just get some anbesol.
Hah, yeah right.
Sometimes I wish I were a paperdoll and I
could tear off below my belly button and
start all over again. (we would have to
leave my breast implants...They are too
pretty to tear off...And too darn
expensive!) hey patty, you and I could
start all over and ditch dental all
together. (get jobs that are less
physically demanding, that pay worth a
poot and that have some kind of benefits
and good retirement plans) hah ha ha ha I
can dream can't i?
Jenn
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PattyV
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Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1103 Location: Chicago area
Posted: 09-17-04 10:34am
Jenn,you are too much!!Sorry for being so
late,but I am going to school at night as
well as slaving away for the sake of
teeth.My best friend and I say when we are
both soooooo tired of our jobs that we are
going to pack it in and become exotic
dancers for the blind!!Wanna join
us???That's one of our favorites,we have
others!But,seriously,you are right about
some docs thinking that you are looking
for drugs.I seldom need pain meds anymore
and I swear that pilates has a lot to do
with it.Last year,i really thought I would
not be able to work at all,and now i'm
significantly better.Not that my lower
back does not hurt daily,but it is
tolerable.I have a sister in richmond and
she has had very similar problems getting
pain meds for her back pain.The doc told
her she should take steriods instead.She
really wanted to avoid any more
steriods,and this doc said steroids or
nothing!!Very non-compassionate if you ask
me!Hope you find a doc with a head and a
heart!Patty
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jennjenn
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 30 Location: Alabama
Mean Doctors Posted: 09-18-04 17:53pm
I know. I have to reschedule my appt
with the rheumatologist b/c of that
hurricane junk. It was not as bad as
they thought it would be, thank god. I
may have to look into this pilates
thing.
Jenn
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sneakycol
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Joined: 08 Oct 2004 Posts: 43 Location: Arbroath, Scotland
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