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chuawa

New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 32
Cbt Tools Discussion
Posted: 09-01-04 18:38pm

Hi everyone... I thinks that a lot of new comers (including myself) would benefit alot from cognitive behavioural therapy.

For those who has tried cbt or went to a cbt group, lets share the tools and lessons here?

I am still trying to order my copy of been there, done that, and where I am, there is not alot of books on cbt.

This will also help newcomers to cbt on where the tools are used correctly.

Let me start off from something I read..

1. Breathing - a normal person breaths around 12 breaths a minute. To train your breathing... 3 seconds in, 3 seconds out... Not too deep.. Just gentle.. Use this during meditation
2. Thinking straight - every bad though that you have.. Counter it with a logical and good explanation, keep to this explanation everytime the same bad though pops up
3. Don't worry - as far as possible, don't think about worring thoughts, if a bad thought comes in... Banish it.. And look at something else
4. Relaxation - full body muscle relaxation.. Use the tense and release method.. People with anxiety tends to have muscle aches.. Tense up those parts for a couple of seconds.. And release. A full body relaxation can be achieved by doing this from feet to head.. Tensing and releasing muscles along the way... Feet.. Calf... Thigh... Etc..
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Nikos Gallis

New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Posts: 35
Location: Pireu
Cbt Is a Scam. Nothing Helps Against the Vascular Damage
Posted: 09-16-04 07:20am

Cbt is just a scam concocted by the psychiatrists to "explain" that
your physical problems (conversion disorder, somatization discorder, etc)
are due to a mental illness or cognitive behavior.

Your cognitive functioning or dysfunctioning cannot influence is a
significant way your vital life signs and visceral bodily functions (eg.
Breathing, hunger, sexual functioning and desire, heart functioning).

In fact, patients can stay in a coma (therefore without any cognitive
functioning) and their body remains functional.

The psychiatrists pretend that cognitive dysfunction can affect
visceral and basic body functions (see above) to hide serious
psychical problems when it is clearly that a patient's health will
degrade sometimes to the point of becoming without normal vital
sogns of life with a body almost disfigured. Limb and brain amputations
happen very often in psychiatric hospitals. Ever wondered why?
Because there are no real mental illnesses, but actually serious
congenital serious physical illnesses.

What you are experiencing is caused by heart damage, lung damage
and last but not least systemic arterial damage.

You were born with an extreme congenital heart and arterial defects
(possible missing arteries and definately with abnormal arteries).

This congenital arterial defects turned into "endothelial dysfunction"
when the arteries don't pulsate normal anymore, cannot provide
normal tissue and organ oxygenation and therefore your heart got
ischemic, and it almost lost an important valve (for which it tries to
compensate with that rapid heart beats).
There is nothing to be done at this stage of the disease.

The bad news is that you are dying but not fast enough. And because
the way the doctors, lawyers and media work, nobody will acknowledge
that you have a catastrophic problem, and they will claim that it's
anxiety, a bio-chemical imbalance in your brain or a mental illness so that
they will be able to commit you into a psychiatric hospital and hide your
torture that you experience.

Nobody can help you and the doctors won't do anything to ease up
your death, but to the contrary. They will prolong your life as much
as possible even if that means enourmous torture on you.. This is how
they understand their hippocratic oath and they don't want to
acknowledge that the way you die (in a dignified way) is much more
important than the lenght of your life (or death at this moment).

I would suggest you to tell your story to the local radio talk shows and
media so that these issues get open to the public. As of now, there
is much of tabu in the medical, law and media communities.
Also, ask these questions that I am posing to you in as many health
forums as possible so that all the so called "anxiety" patients will be
warned that their deaths are dreadful.
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