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lilmama2b_oct04

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Posted: 09-07-04 23:00pm

So they have no clue on what happened? So like sids, but still in the belly? How did everything happen? Like how did they find out etc...?
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TQuartz490

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Posted: 09-07-04 23:01pm

Someone said it was a miscarriage.

Technically, a miscarriage is any pregnancy loss that occurs before 20 weeks gestational age, which is approximately up to the 5th month.

Usually after the 6-7 month it is class' as something else like toxemia that can cause the baby to devolp to term, be born premie or still born.

I don't know what it is, but whatever it is, I hope she gets through it.
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linuxChique

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Posted: 09-07-04 23:03pm

I don't know. She was reeeeally shaken up and I didn't want to pressure her into talking about it.
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lilmama2b_oct04

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Posted: 09-07-04 23:09pm

You can miscarry any time during your pregnancy. Its just on average, they happen before week 20. If they happen past that, they are called a "late miscarrige". A miscarrige is the baby dying before it was born, before going into labor, and a still born, is a baby that is born dead, which usually dies during labor cuz it couldnt handle the stress, or the umbilical cord got wrapped around the neck, ect... A preemie, is a baby that is born before week 37, and does not have anything to do with miscarrige.
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TQuartz490

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Posted: 09-07-04 23:33pm

lilmama2b_oct04 wrote:
you can miscarry any time during your pregnancy. Its just on average, they happen before week 20. If they happen past that, they are called a "late miscarrige". A miscarrige is the baby dying before it was born, before going into labor, and a still born, is a baby that is born dead, which usually dies during labor cuz it couldnt handle the stress, or the umbilical cord got wrapped around the neck, ect... A preemie, is a baby that is born before week 37, and does not have anything to do with miscarrige.


i never said a preemie had anything to do with a miscarriage and second of all what im saying because it is pasted 20 weeks. It could been something like a placenta abruption or chromosome abnormalities.

Thirdly. A miscarriage (sometimes called a spontaneous abortion) is when a baby dies before the 20th week of pregnancy. Stillbirth is the death of a baby after the 20th week of pregnancy but before delivery.


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linuxChique

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Posted: 09-07-04 23:35pm

Every miscarriage is caused by something. 70% of miscarriages that occur before 20 weeks are due to chromosomal abnormalities.
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TQuartz490

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Posted: 09-07-04 23:38pm

linuxchique wrote:
every miscarriage is caused by something. 70% of miscarriages that occur before 20 weeks are due to chromosomal abnormalities.


yeah, but sometimes doctors aren't sure as to why, some happens?
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linuxChique

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Posted: 09-07-04 23:44pm

That doesn't mean its not a miscarriage.
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TQuartz490

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Posted: 09-07-04 23:47pm

linuxchique wrote:
that doesn't mean its not a miscarriage.


im not saying anything. Everyone has their opinions and views and I respect that.

But I honestly believe in all fairness and respect to angelic, im not discussing her childs death and the causes. I understand what she is going through right now and I will leave it as that.
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linuxChique

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Posted: 09-08-04 00:19am

You said, and I quote "technically, a miscarriage is any pregnancy loss that occurs before 20 weeks gestational age, which is approximately up to the 5th month." that _is_ saying that she didn't have a miscarriage, when she did.
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TQuartz490

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Posted: 09-08-04 00:23am

No it's not you are trying to read between the lines. What I stated was the facts. I don't know the girl and quite frank, I don't know if she did or if she didn't have a miscarriage, because I haven't spoken to her. But what I stated was facts that can be found anywhere.
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Kia

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Posted: 09-08-04 01:47am

Ok I understand there are slight variations from country to country, but all the info I can find, claims:
* a miscarriage is loss of baby before 24 weeks pregnancy
* a still birth is any baby born dead after 24 weeks
* a pre-mature baby is any baby born alive before 36 weeks
* a term baby any baby born alive after 36 weeks.

If the young lady in question was more than 24 weeks then technically she did not miscarry, but she had a still birth.

Either of these is devastating
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TQuartz490

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Posted: 09-08-04 06:16am

kia_breizzze wrote:
ok I understand there are slight variations from country to country, but all the info I can find, claims:
* a miscarriage is loss of baby before 24 weeks pregnancy
* a still birth is any baby born dead after 24 weeks
* a pre-mature baby is any baby born alive before 36 weeks
* a term baby any baby born alive after 36 weeks.


If the young lady in question was more than 24 weeks then technically she did not miscarry, but she had a still birth.


Either of these is devastating


thank you kia, I was told 20 weeks though. 24 weeks, I can also take note.
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lilmama2b_oct04

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Posted: 09-08-04 06:57am

Ok here is what it says in "what to expect when you expecting" about miscarrying.

" after the 20th week, when the fetus may be able to live outside the uterus, even if only alot of help from the neonatal nursery staff and equipment, the event is labeled a preterm birth. The cause of late miscarrige is usually related to the mothers health, the condtion of her cervix or uterus, her exposer to certain drugs or other toxic substances, or ptoblems to the placenta."
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TQuartz490

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Posted: 09-08-04 09:15am

lilmama2b_oct04 wrote:
ok here is what it says in "what to expect when you expecting" about miscarrying.


" after the 20th week, when the fetus may be able to live outside the uterus, even if only alot of help from the neonatal nursery staff and equipment, the event is labeled a preterm birth. The cause of late miscarrige is usually related to the mothers health, the condtion of her cervix or uterus, her exposer to certain drugs or other toxic substances, or ptoblems to the placenta."


if you deliver your baby before 37 weeks, it's called a preterm birth and your baby is considered premature.

Considering gestational ages, a late miscarriage is around the time of 16-24 weeks' and preterm delivery is around the time of 24-37 weeks' , babies born between 37 - 42 weeks are called full term.
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Posted: 09-08-04 16:27pm

Okay, then explain to me how my friend miscarried at 8 months? No, it was not a stillbirth. The baby died in the womb. The doc said it was a miscarriage.

Anyway, in case this girl is for real, I don't think it is very nice for people to be picking on her and calling her fake. I am sure that is not what she needs right now.

I am so sorry that this happened and I will keep you in my prayers.
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TQuartz490

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Posted: 09-08-04 16:32pm

Frick, the doc can say whatever he wants. The doc can tell me I have breast cancer today, remove my breast tomorrow, and then come back 2 weeks later saying, it was a mistake on his behalf, I never had breast cancer, and believe me that has happened before.

Technically what your friend had was a still birth. I could be wrong, which would also make my Dr. And profess wrong too, but every doctor does and says things differently so I am not going to make a exact comment. Just what I know from being taught and reading.

~*jolieska*~,
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linuxChique

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Posted: 09-08-04 16:36pm

That's what I thought too angie. Yeah everybody calls it a miscarriage no matter how far along the mother is, but supposedly, the actual medical definition of a miscarriage is death of the fetus before 20 weeks.

Emedicine.Com: "a miscarriage occurs when a pregnancy ends without obvious cause before the twentieth week."
webmd.Com: "a miscarriage is the loss of a pregnancy during the first 20 weeks. (after 20 weeks, pregnancy loss is known as a stillbirth.)"
www.Nichd.Nih.Gov: "miscarriage is the term health care providers use to describe the loss of pregnancy from natural causes before the 20th week of pregnancy."
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insurancegirl

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Posted: 09-08-04 16:39pm

Arrow


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sparklypixie12

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Posted: 09-08-04 16:42pm

I'm with jen.....
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