linuxChique
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Maddison - Angelicangel
Posted: 09-07-04 22:16pm
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PregnaJordan
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Posted: 09-07-04 22:21pm
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U cant just skip seven weeks in one day!
I still think shes a big fat faker
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linuxChique
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Posted: 09-07-04 22:25pm
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Doctors can make mistakes. That is not
maddison's fault, and neither was her
miscarriage.
Everyone congratulated her back then.
Nobody thought it was weird. Its not
until now that you think its weird, and
the only reason you think its weird is
because she had a miscarriage. So did
joyce. Nobody accused her of being fake.
Maddison is going through something
really tough right now. She's sitting at
home crying her eyes out because her
daughter is dead and all we can do here is
say "she's a big fat faker?"
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PregnaJordan
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Posted: 09-07-04 22:26pm
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No me and nikki discussed this right when
she became part of the forum. We both
knew then...U cant "miscarry" at 36 weeks,
u have to go into labor or something,
right?
O well, not my deal, but im like 101%
sure she is
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IDABABY
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Location: ***Wisconsin Baby***
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Posted: 09-07-04 22:26pm
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I just got done writing my essay about my
whole pregnancy experience that ended up
in a miscarriage, so I know exactly how
she feels. *hugs*....My heart goes out to
her really!!! 
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linuxChique
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Posted: 09-07-04 22:36pm
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| pregnajordan
wrote: | | u cant "miscarry" at 36
weeks, u have to go into labor or
something,
right? |
no, unfortunately, you don't. One of
mike's coworkers just recently experienced
this. She was about 36 weeks pregnant
when her baby dropped. They didn't know
the umbilical cord was wrapped around the
baby's neck, and the baby asphixiated
after dropping. No labor necessary. Same
thing goes for car wrecks, abusive
spouses, toxoplasmosis, preeclampsia,
smokers, drinkers, and a whole heap of
other things that can cause miscarriage.
In fact, i'd be willing to bet my life on
the fact that most third trimester
miscarriages occur with no signs of labor.
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lauren22
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Posted: 09-07-04 22:39pm
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Well you can lose the baby at any point,
but the horrible part of losing the baby
this late in pregnancy is that most of the
time they have to "induce labor" for you
to give birth to the baby. Its a horrible
thing for anyone to go through!
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lilmama2b_oct04
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Posted: 09-07-04 22:47pm
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When I went to my first doctor appt, I
thought I was around 13 weeks, the doc
said I was only around 6... So thats
being bumped back 7 weeks, and then I went
back at my next appt, and got a suprise
u/s and he told me I was 15 weeks, when I
thought I was 10 (from what he told me
from the previous appt.)... So I got
bumped back 7 weeks, and then bumped up 5
weeks. Doctors can be wrong all the time.
My doc told me the baby was small and I
needed an u/s to make sure she was ok...
Well she ended up being on the bigger side
of average(weighing more, but still on
average weight).
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nikki_caro
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Posted: 09-07-04 23:52pm
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Yeah but see I can understand that at the
beginning of a pregnancy, how your due
date can change, cuz mine did. But when
you think your 20 something weeks then all
of a sudden your 34 weeks? Thats a bit
odd for me. I mean can doctors really be
that bad? I think they would have noticed
when they mesaured her.
And not many babies get miscarried at 36
weeks. I mean angie had her baby at 36
weeks! You would notice when you have to
watch for the fetal movement, when it
slows down you call the doc! I dont even
think its possible to miscarry at 36 weeks
when the baby is ready to come out. I
just felt really fishy about her. And
weve had these fakes many times before.
Me, chanda and jordan know this. How did
the baby pass? And I noticed this girl
sent the message to chanda, megan was also
very close to chanda. Nothing against
chanda but megan has pulled this one wayyy
to many times. Knowing so much then
turning up fake! And its easy to get to a
new comp with a new ip.
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TQuartz490
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Location: New York City
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Posted: 09-07-04 23:58pm
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| nikki_caro
wrote: | yeah but see I can
understand that at the beginning of a
pregnancy, how your due date can change,
cuz mine did. But when you think your 20
something weeks then all of a sudden your
34 weeks? Thats a bit odd for me. I
mean can doctors really be that bad? I
think they would have noticed when they
mesaured her.
And not many babies get miscarried at 36
weeks. I mean angie had her baby at 36
weeks! You would notice when you have to
watch for the fetal movement, when it
slows down you call the doc! I dont even
think its possible to miscarry at 36 weeks
when the baby is ready to come out. I
just felt really fishy about her. And
weve had these fakes many times before.
Me, chanda and jordan know this. How did
the baby pass? And I noticed this girl
sent the message to chanda, megan was also
very close to chanda. Nothing against
chanda but megan has pulled this one wayyy
to many times. Knowing so much then
turning up fake! And its easy to get to
a new comp with a new
ip. |
that is what I was thinking niki, I know
that after 20 weeks and even 36 weeks if
the baby is dead before delivery it is a
stillbirth. I was thinking that some got
it mixed up with a miscarriage.
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linuxChique
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Posted: 09-08-04 00:16am
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A still birth is a baby that goes through
natural labor and comes out dead. Not a
baby who they find out its dead before
labor ever starts. That's a miscarriage,
no matter how far along you are. And it
didn't go from 20 to 34, it went from 24
to 31. As far as we know, that could have
been her first appointment. Not likely,
but possible.
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TQuartz490
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
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Location: New York City
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Posted: 09-08-04 00:20am
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| linuxchique
wrote: | | a still birth is a baby that
goes through natural labor and comes out
dead. Not a baby who they find out its
dead before labor ever starts. That's a
miscarriage, no matter how far along you
are. And it didn't go from 20 to 34, it
went from 24 to 31. As far as we know,
that could have been her first
appointment. Not likely, but
possible. |
linux that is not true hunnie.
A stillbirth is when a fetus dies during
birth (that is commom), but also when the
fetus dies during the late stages of
pregnancy when it would have been
otherwise expected to survive.
I don't know where u get your information
from.
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Kia
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Location: Planet Tampaxia,
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Posted: 09-08-04 01:55am
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I know there are variation from country to
country but all the info I can find points
to:
* a miscarriage is loss of a baby before
24 weeks
* a still birth is any baby born
(vaginal/surgical) dead after 24 weeks
* a pre-mature baby is any baby born alive
before 36 weeks
* a term baby is any baby born alive after
36 weeks
so if the young lady in question was past
24 weeks, she suffered a still birth, not
a miscarriage.
Either of these is just as devastating as
the other.
A still birth does not have to be a baby
that died during birth.
If it died during birth, that would have
otherwise been a live birth, then the
birth still has to be registered.
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TQuartz490
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
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Posted: 09-08-04 06:20am
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| kia_breizzze
wrote: |
so if the young lady in question was past
24 weeks, she suffered a still birth, not
a
miscarriage. |
kia, I appreciate your help. I myself
learned up to 20 weeks. Then again when I
came here and was posting it. I have come
to realize it is not widely known. But
it's the facts people.
~*jolieska*~
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IDABABY
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Posted: 09-08-04 07:32am
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Maybe angie should get her butt here and
clear up some things..Because im sick of
hearing assumptions. She is the only one
that really knows what happened. We
werent there.
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linuxChique
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linuxChique
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Posted: 09-08-04 10:31am
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Damn kia!!
I'm sitting here scouring webmd trying to
prove you wrong, but you're right! Its
commonly called a miscarriage up to 40
weeks, but its really only technically
classified a miscarriage if its 20 weeks
or before! Sorry!
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lauren22
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
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Location: Alabama
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Posted: 09-08-04 10:34am
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I think its one of those "technical"
things...Some people call it one thing but
others call it another! Thats why I am
not saying anything! Haha at least you
can say you are wrong erin and not be
stubborn like some people! Anyways...You
are all technically right, so lets move
on!
Lauren
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nikki_caro
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Posted: 09-08-04 11:37am
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Well I think maybe someone should ask that
girl what happened, I know if (god forbid)
that happened to me, id be gone for a
while but id at least explain it to
someone.
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Michelle1337
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Posted: 09-08-04 12:02pm
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I dont think it really matters what the
technical name for it is. Fact is the
poor girl lost her baby, which happens all
the time in late pregnancy. And if she
comes on here and sees all of this she is
gonna be in more pain then she already is.
Her story checks out, the doctor could
have easily been wrong. That was
probably her first ultrasound and they
were only going by her missed period.
Which means theres a good chance she didnt
skip the first one or even the second one.
So therfore the doctors would be off by
a good number of weeks because all they
had to go by was the date she told them
she missed her period.
She'll get on here and talk to us when
she's ready, she's in a lot of pain right
now. Give her some time, she'll come
around.
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