Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 7 Location: Fort Washington, Maryland
I Like Her, She Likes Him Posted: 09-10-04 12:23pm
Hey, folks...
Just wanted to share my experience...
I've known this woman for a year. She
doesn't live in my area... But where she
lives is about a 6 hour drive for me,
which I can deal with. At the time we
met and became friends, I was attracted to
her but I didn't want to date anybody who
didn't live within a 60-minute drive.
Also, she had a boyfriend at the time.
She spent the weekend visiting a mutual
friend and we hit it off as friends... We
occasionally e-mailed each other to keep
up.
Fast forward to july 2004...
They've broken up... All of a sudden, out
of the blue, she and I start e-mailing
each other like crazy... Back and
forth... Every day. She's telling me
how she found herself physically attracted
to me but my self esteem from a year ago
was a turn off... Now she's noticed
changes and she likes how i've been
determined to stick with my weight loss
(between january 2004 and july 2004 I lost
35 lbs). She likes the new me. She
even finds herself attracted to the new me
and could see herself dating the new me.
We're flirting back and forth in the
e-mails. Between the flirting, she
admits that although she's attracted to me
and might consider dating me, she's still
not over her ex and will need some time to
deal with it. I'm fine with that...
Time is very cool.
A bunch of my friends were going to drive
up to where she lives, to visit this
amusement park. Two days before the
trip, i'm all ready to go but everybody
who lives in my area flakes out. She and
I decide i'll still come, just so she and
I can spend some time together. When I
get there, she treats me like a king...
She's so affectionate... We were even
intimate... I leave and drive home
feeling so good about myself and her...
And about the possibility of 'us'.
I get home... We're still e-mailing and
calling each other... Flirting like
crazy... Talking about how wonderful our
weekend together was... And when we'll
spend more time together. Now, i'm
really feeling something strong at this
point... I tell her how i'm feeling, and
she reiterates how she's still trying to
get over her ex and she isn't ready for
what I want. From that, i'm hurting...
I thought that the line we crossed when we
spent that weekend together was a clear
indication that she was ready. I mean, I
wouldn't do to a woman the things she did
to me and then say "oh, I still need time
to get over my ex"... But that's just me.
She even comes to me one night crying,
telling me that she ran into her ex and he
had a new girlfriend with him. It hurt
her to see it, but she said it was helping
her to deal with the breakup and move
on.
So another month rolls along, we still
talk as often as before, the flirting
doesn't stop... She decides to visit
here. The original plan was to spend the
weekend with me in a hotel. But she
decided that it would be better to spare
my feelings and spend the weekend with a
friend of hers who lives in town. She
and I barely got to spend any time alone
together... But the time we did, she
assured me that what she wanted was more
alone time with me. I even caught myself
asking her, "was there anything you didn't
get to do this weekend that you'd like to
do the next time you visit?" her answer
was short and precise: "cuddle with
you.".
She goes home, we go back to our
e-mail/phone routine... But she's really
pulling back now. I'm confused as to
why... Thinking that she's showing me
affection because she's attracted to me.
Fast forward to yesterday...
Her ex is back in the picture. He
confronted her and begged her to take him
back. She realized how not over him she
is, and she's currently considering it.
She admits all this to me, and I have to
admit, I was floored. I should have seen
it all along, but my heart didn't want to
let me. I was hurt and confused... Why
treat me the way she did when she still
had feelings for him? Why let our
physical involvement go anywhere past
hugging? I should have stopped things
too, but I didn't. I admit, i'm a sucker
for affection, and she fulfilled every bit
of what I needed.
So we had a long talk, and she told me
that the only two factors keeping her from
wanting to try anything with me are (1)
her feelings for her ex, and (2) the long
distance. So i've dealt with the fact
that those two things are keeping us apart
right now, while she tries to decide
whether to give her ex a second chance.
Here's my problem: i'm still trying to
deal with my feelings for her. I think I
let my feelings go way too far, and it's
going to be very hard to get over her.
All day at work today, i've been on pins
& needles. Anytime anybody asks me
"what's wrong", I break into tears. I
want to be with this woman so badly... It
hurts me to even think about her possibly
going back to him. And to think about
the reason they broke up... He was scared
at how their relationship was
progressing... But now all of a sudden
he's realized how wonderful she is and
what he gave up...
I swear... After everything i've been
through in the past couple of years, this
is so hard to get over. I'm a very
emotional, romantic person. I do feed
off of affection - whether it be physical
or emotional. Before this woman, the
last 4 women I tried to date... They all
ended up terribly. The first two gave me
their numbers when I first met them, but
never returned my calls when I called
them. The next one asked me to make her
dinner at my house, but stood me up...
And dinner was ready, too. And the most
recent one before the one i'm referring to
above, we actually did go out on the date,
but the date went so terribly and we were
incompatible.
After that, I took a few months to work on
my own self-esteem... And i'd gotten
myself to a good point. I was eating
better, I was working out, I was losing
weight, and I was feeling a lot better.
I have to admit, this pain is a setback.
I mean, people always tell me not to 'look
for love', but to let it come to me. So
many times in the past, I went looking...
Whether I met someone and asked for her
number and chatted her up on the phone, or
I tried a telephone dating service, or I
tried an internet chatroom/messageboard.
This time, I let the woman come to me...
And it still went sour. Granted, it was
because of timing and distance, but
still...
Imagine letting a kid walk through a room
with lollipops lined up inside a locked
vault. The kid can see them but can't
have any. The kid is excited, but sad
because he can't get to them. And every
now and again, one is revealed to him...
He grabs it, takes a lick, and then it's
snatched away from him before he can put
it into his mouth and really enjoy it.
That's how I feel... That frustrated...
Add a lot of loneliness to that... And a
little bit of worthlessness... That's
where I am.
I apologize for this being so long... I
wanted to make sure I didn't miss any
details.
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bridget28ack
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 40 Location: Ohio
Broken Hearted!! Posted: 09-10-04 13:20pm
Hello, i'm going to be truthful. I
dated a guy like this once and he was
still in love with his exwife. They
had 2 kids together and he had custody of
them. When we met he told me that he
was over her. She left him for another
man. I was deeply in love with this
guy. I even fell in love with his 2
kids. I thought everything was fine
untill my aunt saw him with her in his
car. He denied this. So I simply
ignored this and stayed with him. A
few weeks later he was making excuses not
to be with me. He told me one night
that he wanted to just spend time with his
kids alone. I asked him if he was sure
everything was okay. He said
everything was fine. The next night he
said he was tired. I knew something
was up so I went to his house and
confronted him. He finally broke down
and told me that him and his exwife where
getting back together. I was so upset
I felt that I couldn't survive without
him. A few months later I started
dating someone else which is now my
husband. This guy finally had enough
with his ex and they ended things and he
came running back to me. Like a fool I
took him back. Big mistake. I
broke it off with my new boyfriend (my now
husband) and went back with him. He
did the same thing to be twice. Luckly
my now husband never gave up on me and
took me back. He is the love of my
life and would never do anything to hurt
me.
That was 9 years ago. We have a 7 year
old son and we are still deeply in love.
I'm so glad he (my ex) did what he did.
I have a great life. The guy(my ex) is
working on his third divorce and is a
complete loser!!
I really feel for you I know how hard it
is to love someone and they love someone
else. I honestly think she will go
back to him. I'm sorry if this hurts.
You will find someone that loves only
you. Don't settle for anything less.
Bridget
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PattyV
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1103 Location: Chicago area
Posted: 09-10-04 16:14pm
Good for you on losing weight and taking
care of yourself!!That is very
important.You need to be good to yourself
before you can be good to anyone else.If
this woman is going back to her ex,that's
her choice.She must not be ready for
someone like you.That's her loss.You
cannot make her change her mind.As hard as
it is,move on and focus on someone who is
ready and able to make a commitment to a
real relationship.You sound like a sweet
guy and you will find the right
person,probably when you are least
expecting it!Don't give up,love will find
you,instead of you finding it.That's how
it happened with my husband.I was ready to
become the neighborhood crazy cat lady and
just work and have my animals and bam!I
met him and we have been together for 11
years.Best to you.Patty
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Mist
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 58
Posted: 09-12-04 01:06am
Hehe, I like your analogy with the
lollipops. That sums up my relationships
to a tee. I'm a 20 year old male who has
never had a girlfriend. Only dated one
woman and has only gotten someones phone
number twice. Once wasn't even me who got
it. First woman I asked out was "busy"
three times. I gave up on that. It took
me three times to realize but it wasn't
difficult. The next one I asked out
seemed like she liked me I actually got
her phone number but she never called me
back. A little bit later I sorta hinted
to a coworker that I liked her and she
quit the next week. Never saw her again.
Then a good friend of mine at work was
talking to an older coworker of mine and
set me up with the older coworkers
daughter. Got her number for me and told
me to call her. I did. I got a date.
Since I had never dated before it sucked
because I had no clue what I was doing.
She never called back. That all happened
in about a years time a period that ended
over a year ago. So if you think about it
I didn't ask anyone out until I was 18. I
just kinda gave up. Looked at each
situation and realized I just wasn't going
about it right at all. Now school started
up again a couple weeks ago. I no longer
live in the same town and don't go to the
same school. I have been really taking
care of myself. My skin is looking tons
better. I'm infinatly more confident
about talking to anyone, not just the
ladys. I'm still single but I can feel
that aspect of my life picking up. I'm
not pushing anything, because that is one
thing I think I was doing wrong. Pushing.
I'm a 20 year old virgin that has not
ever had a girlfriend. My life is going
good. I know what I want to do with my
life. I don't let relationship troubles
get in my way. I play guitar. Practice
martial arts. Go to school as a
communication design major. Always
researching acne causes and cures.You may
have seen several posts by me in the acne
forums on this board. I have a lot going
for me. I know though that if and when I
do get a girlfriend, my life will be
completely different. It is nothing i'm
used to in the least. It will be a
welcome change though. I don't know how
much this helps you. I just liked your
analogy. Thats how I have felt so many
times. I've just never heard it said that
way. Well gl with your life. I hope you
find a wonderful woman who respects you as
you are.