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nikki_caro
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Aug 2003 Posts: 4921 Location: Right here at work!
Posted: 10-03-03 12:15pm
Have you tried conceling or other things
to help your relationship so you can get
over these feelings over another guy. I
was the same with jose in the very very
beggining because he was in another state
and the other guy was down my street, I
was all sprung on the other guy but the
more I was with jose I fell in love
because he loved me so much. And the
first week after we were together, we were
at a river and we were swimming and he was
hugging me tight (because I had to leave
in like 2 hours back home) and he was like
"i wanna marry you, I think I love you"
and I was like umm...Ok. I didnt know
what to do it was so soon! But 4 months
after he got my ring and proposed and I
was so in love with him too, and the other
guy was dust in the wind. Hes here with
me and we go to counceling too and we read
a book called 10 great dates, to help a
marriage. We want it to work more than
anything. And its going good. The only
problem I have is hes so stingy with the
playstation!!! He doesnt let my niece
play! And he hates to take turns! Im
ready to break the thing!
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Suzy
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 530
Posted: 10-03-03 12:16pm
Hi jennifer,
i'm not sure on this one, I could never
imagine being with anyone else other than
my husband. I guess you need to really
think about whether you really want to
give up your family situation to be with a
guy you feel you really want to be with.
That's the tough part about situations
like this, it's not just you who will
suffer the consequences, the kids will
probably suffer most, because no matter
what, they are always going to love dad.
Having 3 children I would be very hesitant
to make to many changes at all to the
family, especially if they are still
youngsters.
Good luck,
.::suzy::.
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scv_baby
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Sep 2003 Posts: 5
Posted: 10-03-03 13:43pm
Hi jennifer,
i am going to be giving you a long
lecture, so please be patient with what I
say. The final decision is yours.
If you really love your husband and want
the marriage to work, I think you should
do the following (not necessary that you
have the same thoughts too):
- steel yourself and your heart,
become strong
- do more activities with your hubby
together
- maybe take a day off, leave your
kids either in the daycare (if they are
very small) or leave them with your
parents or somebody and just the two of
you do something that you guys like, your
hobby (hiking, biking, swimming, playing
tennis whatever....)
- take counselling for yourself more
than for your husband
- take on the role of a counsellor for
your hubby and kids
- sometimes when he behaves in a way
that you don't want him to, discuss with
him. If that's not a good time, see the
right time and then discuss.
- always try to place yourself in his
shoes and then accordingly react, makes a
world of a difference
- be calm and control your anger.
This doesn't mean that you are a saint or
you become one. Control of anger and
emotions is the biggest thing to have.
More than anybody else it helps you the
most because you get a great peace of
mind.
=> I am not rattling on this
above point. In the beginning, I was very
high on my emotions. It was almost to the
extreme ends of the pendulum let it be
anger, emotional outburst, happiness,
sorrow etc. And now I have controlled my
emotions and this has helped me big
time.
Keep one thing in mind, the grass on the
other side is always green, just as you
had mentioned. You know the ins and outs
of your hubby now but not of your ex. If
the other guy has become an ex, think
about it, it has been for some particular
reason that he became your ex and not for
the heck of it. Also I have seen this
very common, if there is a person who you
like as a person, but cannot get the
person for whatever reason, or even just
being a good samaritan, they will always
be good to you. But when it is someone
who you love, like your hubby, your kids,
your parents, brother/sister, you take
their love for granted and vice versa too.
So as a result when you say something,
you just say it without thinking or you
say it without having any qualms.
So keeping all this in mind, all I can
say, is be calm with him, understand him,
understand his moods and make him
understand how you feel when he does
certain things and when he doesn't do
certain things. Believe me most of the
men are like kids or even infants when it
comes to emotions. And when you talk
things out they would understand it. And
if talking does not work, imitate their
behaviour when you get a chance, they'll
get pissed off at it big time and then you
can slowly explain the situation.
I am able to rattle along so much, because
I have faced similar problems with my
hubby. But it was not about me having
relationship or even thoughts of anybody.
I love my hubby to the core. But there
were our certain behavioural issues that
we had. It is like north pole and south
pole. Like for eg. An extrovert living
with an introvert.
So I did all the things that I have
mentioned above and believe it or not,
(touch wood), my relationship and my
marriage is way much better than it was
earlier. Everyday the relationship only
improves, we are getting to understand
each other much better and I feel much
more happier.
Ok, enough of my lecture.
This was just my 2 cents, take it for what
it is worth.
All the best....
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insurancegirl
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 5286
Thanks, Posted: 10-03-03 14:06pm
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Suzy
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 530
Posted: 10-03-03 20:48pm
Dear jennifer,
aww girl, you are in such a mess, i'm
sorry it has gotten to this point for you.
You must be strong. Yes you may feel you
need this other guy, but why do you need
him ? Have you asked yourself that
question and been truthful in answering ?
For you to need this guy, there is
something seriously lacking in your
relationship with hubby, it is detramental
to both of you that you make an effort to
find each other again, learn to love each
other totally, all over again. Your hubby
may not display this to you, but if you
are having such strong feelings for
someone else, I guarentee you he can feel
it, he would be completely aware that
there is something not quite right, but he
obviously loves you very much not to bring
it all out into the open. You mentioned
he has found out about ather guys you have
dated ? Then he is a very strong, loving
and dedicated man to not only stay with
you and love you, but to be so dedicated
to his family. He needs to be rewarded
not punished, let me tell you jennifer,
there are very few men in the world now
days who are so dedicated to their wife
and children, you should be treating him
like a rare species not a common trout.
Take care,
.::suzy::.
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insurancegirl
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 5286
Suzy, Posted: 10-04-03 09:53am
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Suzy
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Sep 2003 Posts: 530
Posted: 10-04-03 18:43pm
Dear jennifer,
i am so sorry, you do sound very confused,
but I am so glad to see that for the time
being everything is fine and you are going
to at least give things a go. I know how
hard things can be when you are not happy
in your relationship, it can be very
disheartning. Good luck, keep in touch.
.::suzy::.
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blu_eyes00
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 96 Location: Canada
Posted: 10-06-03 09:30am
Ow wow. I do not know what to say, yet I
feel compelled to respond! Have you
talked with your husband, and I mean,
really talked about what is going on? Do
you know if your husband is happy in the
relationship, or if he feels the same way
you do? I know you want to do whats best
for the children, but if the two of you
decide to seperate, do it sooner rather
tahn later. When the kids get older, it
becomes more difficult on them, if it is
done while the kids are young, it wont be
good, but it may be easier, just so long
as both parents are comitted to being
parents. My neighbours have 2 children,
aged 6 and 8. 2 years ago, they got a
divorce, but both still live in the same
house. The father lives in the basement,
as though its an appartment (its
finished), and the mom is upstairs with
the kids. But, both parents are always
there, and there is no custody issue, as
both parents are trying to function as
parents first. Their personal lives come
second, and they work things around their
kids. So, seperations are possible, but
not always lucky enough to have a
fairy-tale ending like my neighbours.
Good luck. but talk to your
husband.
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insurancegirl
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 5286
Posted: 10-06-03 09:50am
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Eloise
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 21 Location: Georgia
"it's Not All About Love" Posted: 10-06-03 10:53am
Hi jennifer, I have a best friend named
jennifer I met my husband in 1979, we
were married in 1984 after we had
children. All marriages has ups &
downs. I was 19 & he was 23, I loved
this man so, so much. I didn't realize it
then, but eventually it was a lot of
things that made me suspicious. One day
it came to light, there's this saying:
what's done in the dark will eventually
come to the light!! I always stress that
to my kids then & now even though they
are grown (3=1 boy 2girls). I really
believe that. Anyway he was always
complain about our relationship & I
would start crying everytime, this
particular time I made up in my mind that
if he ever mentioned it again, i'm going
to say okay let's go. We're still
together, because I put my foot down. He
loves me dearly and I wouldn't ever accept
another over him. One thing I can say is
that he has always been there for me. In
1998 before my brain surgery, he assured
me that I would have the best surgeons in
our town, and for me not to worry about
any thing, because he said he was there
for me in the past & he'll definitely
be there for me in the future. I took
years for me to trust him. I trust him
fully & love him very much. I think
that maybe I would've left if I didn't
have any kids by him. I'm 43 & he's
47. Our kids is what kept us together
because we didn't want them to separate
from each other, because they were so
close. For our kids sake we sacrificed a
lot, but it was worth it, because all 3
are in college. 1 in florida=cns (dealing
with computer); major & plans to get
batchlor. 1 in atlanta=biology; major.
They both had academic & basketball
scholarships. 1 is here = business major.
The decision we made because of them, was
well worth it. I will have to say for
your childrens sake do what is best for
them. I you all argue a lot or fight,
it's not going to benefit your children.
Since 1998, mu husband & I get along
great and we love each other deeply.
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carvytaph
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Posts: 87 Location: Pennsylvania
Posted: 10-06-03 12:57pm
Wow! I know how you feel. Even though
there is no legal paperwork, I treat and
respect my boyfriend as if we are married.
I love him so much. I never wanted to
hurt him. We plan to marry after he
graduates from college. However...
About 8 months ago, this young guy
started where I work. Of course when he
first walked in the door I was
like..."ewww...Baby!" but I was happily
involved in a relationship. My co
workers thought we should be together.
So they starting scheduling us together
and putting unwanted pressure on me. He
had a crush on me and after awhile I
started developing some feelings for him.
It became very difficult to stay happily
in my relationship. I began to compare
him to my boyfriend. As the saying
goes..."the grass is always greener on the
other side..." became true. He looked
better than my boyfriend. He seemed
perfect. Not until later did I start
telling myself that I know my boyfriend
inside and out. I dont' know this other
guy. What problems does he have that I
don't like or know about. (if he's an ex,
why did you break up with him?)
my boyfriend stayed over one night
and I couldn't sleep in the same bed with
him. I sat in the other room crying my
eyes out. I was so upset. It came to
the point that I wanted to break up with
him. I even started to doubt my love for
him.
We somehow made it through. I sort
of hinted around about that night, but
things started to settle, so I didn't push
the issue. Then one night, we went to a
restaurant with a bar for wings and beer.
I don't drink, but I went with some
friends. I took my boyfriend home(we
drove together) and I said I was going
home, but decided to hang out alittle
longer. They kept buying me drinks after
drinks. Illegally intoxicated, I took
one of the guys home. He wanted to stop
at another guys house so I innocently
agreed. I had more to drink, and then I
remember laying naked on the bed with both
of them around me. I don't remember how
I got there. I have a few other
unpleasant memories, but the majority I
don't remember. I woke up the next
morning beside a guy that I didn't know.
First thing I did is went to the emergency
room. The doctor said I wouldn't need
the day after pill, because I was on my
period. Emotionally I felt used and
abused, which I was. Next thing I did
was tell my boyfriend. To shorten the
story, it took a lot of work. He told
me he would call me when he thought about
things after being severly hurt. He
called me, told me he loved me very much
and even though it would take awhile to
get over the whole thing, having every
intention to marry me some day, he was
willing to make things work.
The reason I posted this was to
say...Don't do what I did!! Lol but
seriously things will work out. He
forgave me even though I hurt him badly.
Even though I had feelings for this guy at
work, I started pulling away from my
boyfriend, which made me vulnerable to
other guys. Then I ended up screwing up
(literally) unintentionally. (thank
goodness I don't have any lasting
effects..Stds, pregnancy)
I have stronger feelings now for him
than I ever did. I cried for almost 3
days till he called me back. I love him
dearly and would never desire anyone else.
When I had the fear that we wouldn't be
together any longer I realized how much I
really loved and cared about it. Even
his bad habits began looking attractive
again. I remember I was soo excited when
he called me and ask me to go out to
dinner with him. It was the first time I
smiled in those 3 days.
I am not saying that something bad
should happen to you to make you sure of
your feelings, but (not to sound crazy) I
am almost glad I went through the
situation. Yes we are still together,
but I found out who and what I wanted in a
hurry.
Sorry to be so long winded...Hope I
didn't bore you, but I wanted to share my
experience. Try to work things out,
before something bad happens. When I
really thought about things, most of it
was my fault. I took my anger out on
him, my sarcasm was hard to handle, I was
too sensitive. It was things that I
could work on. Again I apologize for
writing so much. Hope things work out
for you!!
Carvytaph
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Eloise
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 21 Location: Georgia
"think About Your Beautiful Children" Posted: 10-07-03 15:16pm
I hope all goes well with you. Everyone
doesn't think like I do, so think long and
hard before you make a decision. When I
was younger I thought that I had a lot
friends, but when you're down & out
& need help, you will find out who
your true friends are. When my kids were
in middle school, I realized I did have at
least 1 friend. When she moved I was
heart broken. That left me with my
children to talk to. I would always let
them know how I was doing or how we wer
doing (husband) at a very young age, they
were really advanced when it came to
somethings. At least my girls were. We
still talk a lot & keep in touch with
one another. What made me talk so much
to them was my husband, the way he was
carrying on. They are young adults now
& they love us both, very, very much.
I just hope u make the right choices, when
it comes to your children. My father
verbally & physically abused my mom.
She's a great person, now my father needs
her more than ever & he is still
abusing her verbally. I feel sorry for
her at times, but I keep my distance,
because I don't want to disrespect either
one, because I love them very much. My
husband has never hit me. He's had a lot
of heated arguments, with hisself, because
I didn't like arguing. All I can say is
for you to be there for your children,
whether you & your husband are/or not
together. No one person can tell you what
to do, because they haven't stood in your
shoes. See you later & good luck!
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Eloise
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 21 Location: Georgia
"think About Your Beautiful Children" Posted: 10-07-03 15:18pm
I hope all goes well with you. Everyone
doesn't think like I do, so think long and
hard before you make a decision. When I
was younger I thought that I had a lot
friends, but when you're down & out
& need help, you will find out who
your true friends are. When my kids were
in middle school, I realized I did have at
least 1 friend. When she moved I was
heart broken. That left me with my
children to talk to. I would always let
them know how I was doing or how we wer
doing (husband) at a very young age, they
were really advanced when it came to
somethings. At least my girls were. We
still talk a lot & keep in touch with
one another. What made me talk so much
to them was my husband, the way he was
carrying on. They are young adults now
& they love us both, very, very much.
I just hope u make the right choices, when
it comes to your children. My father
verbally & physically abused my mom.
She's a great person, now my father needs
her more than ever & he is still
abusing her verbally. I feel sorry for
her at times, but I keep my distance,
because I don't want to disrespect either
one, because I love them very much. My
husband has never hit me. He's had a lot
of heated arguments, with hisself, because
I didn't like arguing. All I can say is
for you to be there for your children,
whether you & your husband are/or not
together. No one person can tell you what
to do, because they haven't stood in your
shoes. See you later & good luck!
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insurancegirl
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Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 5286
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Eloise
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 21 Location: Georgia
My Hubby's 47 & He Still Acts Like a Kid!!!!!!!!! Posted: 10-12-03 11:51am
Hi, it's eloise again, I just wanted to
tell you that my husband is 47 & he
still acts like he did the day I met him.
It's what attracted me to him. He still
clowns around & all my children have
most of his qualities. I've been with him
20+ yrs. Early in life he wasn't always a
good husband, but he was always there for
me when I needed him & when I didn't.
One thing I can say is that he's the best
father to our children, still. They are
grown now and I think its really going to
be hard on him, to even think of them
having a life of their own. He'll be okay
as long as i'm living. He's a practical
joker, but one day he sneaked up on me
& scared me terribly bad. My chest
started hurting very bad, I had to go to
the er. It was a lesson to him & he
trys his best not to frighten me any more.
He's always joking, but when it comes to
me, he's more gentle, because he doesn't
want to scare me. When he acts like that
toward co-workers, dogs, children,
strangers, I realize he's the same person
he was the day that I met. He has not
changed, but I have.