Joined: 11 Jul 2004 Posts: 1218 Location: Washington state
Posted: 09-27-04 15:16pm
I agree 100 % with suzi
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lilmama2b_oct04
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: Wisconsin
Posted: 09-27-04 15:34pm
angel4ever
wrote:
for the record, not all
girls who work in strip clubs are
sleazy...I happen to work in one, does
that make me sleazy? No. I can
understand the girls here who say they
dont want their men to go to one, thats
totally understandable. But please dont
make generalizations like that, that all
girls who work there are sleazy....If men
are dumb enough to want to pay me to watch
me dance then fine! I *never* touch the
men who come into the club. I dont think
I compromise my morals at all, and I make
alotta dough for just standing up on a
stage and
dancing....
so your saying that showing your boobs to
every guy that walks into that place, and
shaking your ass in their face, and giving
lap dances for money isnt sleazy? I think
strippers dont have any self respect at
all. Its plain and simple, strippers are
sleazy no matter what, its not making
generalizations.. Because they just go
and show all for money.
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2ferano
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Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 09-27-04 17:05pm
I will not date anyone who goes or wants
to go.
If you are with someone and they love you
then they would have no desire to go and
watch another girl strip. That is my way
of thinking.
I don't want to see other guys naked when
I am with someone and I expect the same
respect.
Too many girls now adays just let them do
it and act like they don't care and all
that does is let them have their cake and
eat it too. It makes me angry, but what
can you do?
But anyway, to each their own, but for me,
no, I don't allow it. No, I am not my
boyfriend's mother, but as I said I won't
even be with a man who wants to go, so in
reality I am not telling anyone what to
do. I just set my standards high.
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June4life
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 550
Posted: 09-27-04 17:08pm
See, kia, thats the thing. I'm so
confused as to what to do.
I want him to be able to hang with his
friends, but not at a strip club. He
asked me if I would let him go, and I was
like, "well, I cant be ur mom and say ur
not allowed to go, but you know how I feel
about it, so now its up to you."
basically I went on saying that he knows
how I feel about it, so then going to one
would just prove to me that he doesnt care
about my emotions, and I told him how it
makes me feel like i'm not good enough!!
Lol
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
Posted: 09-27-04 17:09pm
hotasfrick
wrote:
i will not date anyone who
goes or wants to go.
If you are with someone and they love you
then they would have no desire to go and
watch another girl strip. That is my
way of thinking.
I don't want to see other guys naked when
I am with someone and I expect the same
respect.
Too many girls now adays just let them do
it and act like they don't care and all
that does is let them have their cake and
eat it too. It makes me angry, but what
can you do?
But anyway, to each their own, but for me,
no, I don't allow it. No, I am not my
boyfriend's mother, but as I said I won't
even be with a man who wants to go, so in
reality I am not telling anyone what to
do. I just set my standards
high.
totally understandable.. I would feel the
same way.. I know I am not my bf's mother
but it would really hurt me to know that
my bf is getting a hardy watching some
other girl strip.. One of the things
that make a relationship special is that
that type of stuff is exclusive and
knowing or believeing that I am the only
one he will lust over or oogle is a
huuuuge turn on!
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 09-27-04 17:11pm
That is exactly it! I am not wanting to
offend anyone who it doesn't bother, but
it really, really bothers me.
People have just turned love into such a
freakin joke that it really makes me
angry.
And, for the record, a guy can hang with
the guys at all kinds of places other than
a strip club and if your man uses that as
an excuse to go then you need to give him
a reality check.
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IDABABY
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 2236 Location: ***Wisconsin Baby***
Posted: 09-27-04 18:01pm
I would go with me....I think its fun to
go together. I know I aint that great
looking..But he still loves me.
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pitterpatter
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 619 Location: United States
Posted: 09-27-04 18:06pm
Anytime you dance naked for money or not
for money in front of a bunch of drooling
men in my opinion you are sleazy. If you
are going to work at a strip club you have
to understand why people will react the
way they do. If you don't like the way
people think of you than maybe you should
change professions. I have the right to
my own opinion and in my view it is
trashy. I'm sure their is people out
there that would disagree with me, but
those are usually the people who would do
it themselves. How can you have respect
for yourself if you are willing to shake
your booty at some stranger on the street.
That doesn't sound like good morals to
me. However, I respect your opinion and
you are free to think as you wish. Just
don't be so surprised when people think
it's gross.
I can see i'm probably alone in this
one... But oh well here goes my take on
strip clubs.
I go to strip clubs. Being a woman in a
strip club, you get treated like a queen
(i don't know about working in one, but I
don't see that as a problem either).
Some of you have said that a girl that
lets her man go to a strip club must be
insecure, but I think it's just the
opposite. If you are feeling secure
enough in you're relationship than it
really shouldn't bother you. If you
think that when he goes that he's
"cheating on you" or will cheat on you,
that probably means that you're insecure
in your relationship.
Some strip clubs are really trashy and
sleazy, but a lot of them are "classy".
I know a million people wouldn't agree
with defining a strip club as a classy
establishment, but hey, be open minded.
Female nudity is a beautiful thing. I
would much rather see a naked woman than a
naked man. If you can show off your
beautiful body without having sex, and
make money doing it (lots of money mind
you) then by all means show them what god
gave you. Being a stripper is not like
being a prostitute. People hold business
meetings at strip clubs.
I know most, if not all of you, won't
agree to this, I understand where you're
coming from. I respect all of your
opinions and this is just mine. But I
also think for those of you who have never
been to strip club... Go. Check it out
and if you hate it... Leave. And if
you're open minded enough, go with your
boyfriend/husband and you'll see it's not
that bad, provided that you go to the
right kind of place.
Lauren
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June4life
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 550
Posted: 09-27-04 18:13pm
Lol, spoken from a stripper/dancer.
"we use to dance completely naked, but now
they make us wear a g-string, so the guys
respect us more."
I've hung out with and still do hang out
with a lot of strippers, male and female.
They're regular people. Most of the
strippers I know are just working their
way through college. You make so much
money in such a little period of time that
you actually have time to study and you
can still pay for books, tuition, food,
rent, etc. Not everyone's daddy can
afford to pay their way through college.
It might not be something you would choose
to do, but I respect them for taking the
bad rep that comes with being an exotic
dancer, having the courage to do it, and
for being able to finish school and make
sometihng out of themselves. In most
strip clubs there are a few coked up,
trashy dancers that just strip so that
they can get their next fix. Disrespect
them.
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pitterpatter
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 619 Location: United States
Posted: 09-27-04 21:02pm
I understand what you are saying, but I
still think the whole thing is trashy. I
mean you don't have to strip to make your
way through college. My parents were
poor as ever while I was going through
school, but I made it through okay. I
got financial aid and loans and what not
and made it through just fine. I have
friends who paid their own way through
school by working and saving up for it.
I do give those people props who do it and
get crap for it, but I also think they
should expect it. I have yet to meet a
women who strips to be a normal person.
Most of the one's I know are trashy whores
who end up regretting it later in life.
One being a very close friend of mine. I
never could understand why she did it, but
later found out she'd been molested as a
child. I mean most of these people are
really screwed up from stuff that happened
to them. In my opinion those people who
are okay with having their man check out
another women at a strip club in front or
behind them are the one's who would settle
for less. That's basically in my opinion
lust for another women sexually. That is
cheating! I'm not saying my man doesn't
like a womens body, but mine should be the
only one he looks at with the thought of
sex running through his mind. Most of
the girls that I know that are okay with
their man going to strip clubs with or
without them are the one's who are
seriously so insecure they would probably
allow their man to sleep with someone
else. If you are confident in your
relationship your man shouldn't have to
get his fix through strippers. He'll get
it at home with his women. I really
don't know where our world has gone to
where it's okay to lust over another
person while the one you supposably love
is sitting right next to you. It's sick
to me! I mean what if you had children
and they grew up saying they wanted to
strip would you encourage it? I hope
not!
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Scarf
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 1062 Location: Ontario, Canada
Posted: 09-27-04 21:07pm
laurensentourage
wrote:
i can see i'm probably alone
in this one... But oh well here goes my
take on strip clubs.
I go to strip clubs. Being a woman in a
strip club, you get treated like a queen
(i don't know about working in one, but I
don't see that as a problem either).
Some of you have said that a girl that
lets her man go to a strip club must be
insecure, but I think it's just the
opposite. If you are feeling secure
enough in you're relationship than it
really shouldn't bother you. If you
think that when he goes that he's
"cheating on you" or will cheat on you,
that probably means that you're insecure
in your relationship.
Some strip clubs are really trashy and
sleazy, but a lot of them are "classy".
I know a million people wouldn't agree
with defining a strip club as a classy
establishment, but hey, be open minded.
Female nudity is a beautiful thing. I
would much rather see a naked woman than a
naked man. If you can show off your
beautiful body without having sex, and
make money doing it (lots of money mind
you) then by all means show them what god
gave you. Being a stripper is not like
being a prostitute. People hold
business meetings at strip clubs.
I know most, if not all of you, won't
agree to this, I understand where you're
coming from. I respect all of your
opinions and this is just mine. But I
also think for those of you who have never
been to strip club... Go. Check it
out and if you hate it... Leave. And
if you're open minded enough, go with your
boyfriend/husband and you'll see it's not
that bad, provided that you go to the
right kind of place.
Lauren
wow. I completely agree with you. everyone is just
being closeminded. Stripping doesnt make
you sleazy. Selling your sex does. But I
dont feel like ellaborating on this lol.
Im too lazy.
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pitterpatter
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 619 Location: United States
Posted: 09-27-04 21:20pm
But that's what you are doing! Your
selling your body for some perverted guy
to look at and go home and whack off.
Just because he's not having sex with you
doesn't mean he's not thinking of it.
Your still selling your body in a sexual
way. I mean we could try and define sex
here, but i'm starting to think sex to
some people is penis enters the vagina.
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kitty_55
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 1473 Location: Canada
Posted: 09-27-04 22:05pm
I have nothing agasint strip clubs I just
wouldnt want my guy going there...Like yea
I have .N.O. Self esstem so it would just
make me so sh*tty... If I had a nice body
I wouldnt miond being a stripper u make
tons of money... But I dont think ill
ever have a nice enough body to become
one... Its a job.. When im older I cant
wait to go see male strippers!! But if I
did have a b/f and he went to strip clubs
I would be so pissed off... But im single
so....
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June4life
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 550
Posted: 09-27-04 22:09pm
I'm willing to admit, that I have a rather
nice body, lol. Its not that I dont trust
my boyfriend going to a strip club, but
like... He is out getting aroused by
another naked girl, and coming home to me
all horny. I would just feel flat out
used. I know its not cheating... Well, a
lap dance crosses the line. Thats
cheating. But, I just dont feel right
having him get aroused by another women
and come home to me, knowing that i'm not
the one who got him that way. And to top
it off, the whole time he's prolly
fantasizing about the dancers, and not
about me.
I guess i'm just jealous!!
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kitty_55
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Posts: 1473 Location: Canada
Posted: 09-27-04 22:13pm
Have you ever thought about giving him a
lap dance?? I unnderstand how it makes u
jeolous cuz it would make me too... But
if he wants to go to one tell him if ur
comotable(sp?) that u will give him one
and get him hot at home lol....
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linuxChique
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 4535
Posted: 09-28-04 10:57am
Mike's only been a couple of times before
we got together. He liked it then, but he
doesn't even want to go now.
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cherriegurl
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 11 Jul 2004 Posts: 1218 Location: Washington state
Posted: 09-28-04 15:33pm
I have nothing against the strip clubs
themselves but my man aint goin!!!
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sweetsuzi
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 831 Location: Bonny Scotland
Posted: 09-28-04 17:19pm
I dont mind strip clubs, in fact if I had
the body I would set up my own one and be
adored my men who would make me very rich
lol j/k
but you know if you are in love with
someone and you are commited to one
another, it takes the piss out of your
reletionship. He should have no reason to
go. It's not like guys make an effort to
go every week or everytime there out with
their mates. So I dont understand why
they cant just give it a miss. It's
called showing repect and grace to your
other half!!