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cherriegurl

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Posted: 09-27-04 15:16pm

I agree 100 % with suzi
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lilmama2b_oct04

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Posted: 09-27-04 15:34pm

angel4ever wrote:
for the record, not all girls who work in strip clubs are sleazy...I happen to work in one, does that make me sleazy? No. I can understand the girls here who say they dont want their men to go to one, thats totally understandable. But please dont make generalizations like that, that all girls who work there are sleazy....If men are dumb enough to want to pay me to watch me dance then fine! I *never* touch the men who come into the club. I dont think I compromise my morals at all, and I make alotta dough for just standing up on a stage and dancing....


so your saying that showing your boobs to every guy that walks into that place, and shaking your ass in their face, and giving lap dances for money isnt sleazy? I think strippers dont have any self respect at all. Its plain and simple, strippers are sleazy no matter what, its not making generalizations.. Because they just go and show all for money.
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2ferano

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Posted: 09-27-04 17:05pm

I will not date anyone who goes or wants to go.
If you are with someone and they love you then they would have no desire to go and watch another girl strip. That is my way of thinking.
I don't want to see other guys naked when I am with someone and I expect the same respect.
Too many girls now adays just let them do it and act like they don't care and all that does is let them have their cake and eat it too. It makes me angry, but what can you do?
But anyway, to each their own, but for me, no, I don't allow it. No, I am not my boyfriend's mother, but as I said I won't even be with a man who wants to go, so in reality I am not telling anyone what to do. I just set my standards high.
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June4life

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Posted: 09-27-04 17:08pm

See, kia, thats the thing. I'm so confused as to what to do.

I want him to be able to hang with his friends, but not at a strip club. He asked me if I would let him go, and I was like, "well, I cant be ur mom and say ur not allowed to go, but you know how I feel about it, so now its up to you."

basically I went on saying that he knows how I feel about it, so then going to one would just prove to me that he doesnt care about my emotions, and I told him how it makes me feel like i'm not good enough!! Lol
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bd1012

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Posted: 09-27-04 17:09pm

hotasfrick wrote:
i will not date anyone who goes or wants to go.

If you are with someone and they love you then they would have no desire to go and watch another girl strip. That is my way of thinking.

I don't want to see other guys naked when I am with someone and I expect the same respect.

Too many girls now adays just let them do it and act like they don't care and all that does is let them have their cake and eat it too. It makes me angry, but what can you do?

But anyway, to each their own, but for me, no, I don't allow it. No, I am not my boyfriend's mother, but as I said I won't even be with a man who wants to go, so in reality I am not telling anyone what to do. I just set my standards high.

totally understandable.. I would feel the same way.. I know I am not my bf's mother but it would really hurt me to know that my bf is getting a hardy watching some other girl strip.. One of the things that make a relationship special is that that type of stuff is exclusive and knowing or believeing that I am the only one he will lust over or oogle is a huuuuge turn on!
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2ferano

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Posted: 09-27-04 17:11pm

That is exactly it! I am not wanting to offend anyone who it doesn't bother, but it really, really bothers me.

People have just turned love into such a freakin joke that it really makes me angry.

And, for the record, a guy can hang with the guys at all kinds of places other than a strip club and if your man uses that as an excuse to go then you need to give him a reality check.
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IDABABY

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Posted: 09-27-04 18:01pm

I would go with me....I think its fun to go together. I know I aint that great looking..But he still loves me.
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pitterpatter

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Posted: 09-27-04 18:06pm

Anytime you dance naked for money or not for money in front of a bunch of drooling men in my opinion you are sleazy. If you are going to work at a strip club you have to understand why people will react the way they do. If you don't like the way people think of you than maybe you should change professions. I have the right to my own opinion and in my view it is trashy. I'm sure their is people out there that would disagree with me, but those are usually the people who would do it themselves. How can you have respect for yourself if you are willing to shake your booty at some stranger on the street. That doesn't sound like good morals to me. However, I respect your opinion and you are free to think as you wish. Just don't be so surprised when people think it's gross.
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LaurensEntourage

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Posted: 09-27-04 18:12pm

I can see i'm probably alone in this one... But oh well here goes my take on strip clubs.

I go to strip clubs. Being a woman in a strip club, you get treated like a queen (i don't know about working in one, but I don't see that as a problem either). Some of you have said that a girl that lets her man go to a strip club must be insecure, but I think it's just the opposite. If you are feeling secure enough in you're relationship than it really shouldn't bother you. If you think that when he goes that he's "cheating on you" or will cheat on you, that probably means that you're insecure in your relationship.

Some strip clubs are really trashy and sleazy, but a lot of them are "classy". I know a million people wouldn't agree with defining a strip club as a classy establishment, but hey, be open minded.

Female nudity is a beautiful thing. I would much rather see a naked woman than a naked man. If you can show off your beautiful body without having sex, and make money doing it (lots of money mind you) then by all means show them what god gave you. Being a stripper is not like being a prostitute. People hold business meetings at strip clubs.

I know most, if not all of you, won't agree to this, I understand where you're coming from. I respect all of your opinions and this is just mine. But I also think for those of you who have never been to strip club... Go. Check it out and if you hate it... Leave. And if you're open minded enough, go with your boyfriend/husband and you'll see it's not that bad, provided that you go to the right kind of place.

Lauren
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June4life

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Posted: 09-27-04 18:13pm

Lol, spoken from a stripper/dancer.

"we use to dance completely naked, but now they make us wear a g-string, so the guys respect us more."

hah, right... Respect..... Um. No.
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LaurensEntourage

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Posted: 09-27-04 18:25pm

I've hung out with and still do hang out with a lot of strippers, male and female. They're regular people. Most of the strippers I know are just working their way through college. You make so much money in such a little period of time that you actually have time to study and you can still pay for books, tuition, food, rent, etc. Not everyone's daddy can afford to pay their way through college. It might not be something you would choose to do, but I respect them for taking the bad rep that comes with being an exotic dancer, having the courage to do it, and for being able to finish school and make sometihng out of themselves. In most strip clubs there are a few coked up, trashy dancers that just strip so that they can get their next fix. Disrespect them.
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pitterpatter

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Posted: 09-27-04 21:02pm

I understand what you are saying, but I still think the whole thing is trashy. I mean you don't have to strip to make your way through college. My parents were poor as ever while I was going through school, but I made it through okay. I got financial aid and loans and what not and made it through just fine. I have friends who paid their own way through school by working and saving up for it. I do give those people props who do it and get crap for it, but I also think they should expect it. I have yet to meet a women who strips to be a normal person. Most of the one's I know are trashy whores who end up regretting it later in life. One being a very close friend of mine. I never could understand why she did it, but later found out she'd been molested as a child. I mean most of these people are really screwed up from stuff that happened to them. In my opinion those people who are okay with having their man check out another women at a strip club in front or behind them are the one's who would settle for less. That's basically in my opinion lust for another women sexually. That is cheating! I'm not saying my man doesn't like a womens body, but mine should be the only one he looks at with the thought of sex running through his mind. Most of the girls that I know that are okay with their man going to strip clubs with or without them are the one's who are seriously so insecure they would probably allow their man to sleep with someone else. If you are confident in your relationship your man shouldn't have to get his fix through strippers. He'll get it at home with his women. I really don't know where our world has gone to where it's okay to lust over another person while the one you supposably love is sitting right next to you. It's sick to me! I mean what if you had children and they grew up saying they wanted to strip would you encourage it? I hope not!
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Scarf

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Posted: 09-27-04 21:07pm

laurensentourage wrote:
i can see i'm probably alone in this one... But oh well here goes my take on strip clubs.

I go to strip clubs. Being a woman in a strip club, you get treated like a queen (i don't know about working in one, but I don't see that as a problem either). Some of you have said that a girl that lets her man go to a strip club must be insecure, but I think it's just the opposite. If you are feeling secure enough in you're relationship than it really shouldn't bother you. If you think that when he goes that he's "cheating on you" or will cheat on you, that probably means that you're insecure in your relationship.

Some strip clubs are really trashy and sleazy, but a lot of them are "classy". I know a million people wouldn't agree with defining a strip club as a classy establishment, but hey, be open minded.

Female nudity is a beautiful thing. I would much rather see a naked woman than a naked man. If you can show off your beautiful body without having sex, and make money doing it (lots of money mind you) then by all means show them what god gave you. Being a stripper is not like being a prostitute. People hold business meetings at strip clubs.


I know most, if not all of you, won't agree to this, I understand where you're coming from. I respect all of your opinions and this is just mine. But I also think for those of you who have never been to strip club... Go. Check it out and if you hate it... Leave. And if you're open minded enough, go with your boyfriend/husband and you'll see it's not that bad, provided that you go to the right kind of place.


Lauren


wow. I completely agree with you. Smile everyone is just being closeminded. Stripping doesnt make you sleazy. Selling your sex does. But I dont feel like ellaborating on this lol. Im too lazy.
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pitterpatter

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Posted: 09-27-04 21:20pm

But that's what you are doing! Your selling your body for some perverted guy to look at and go home and whack off. Just because he's not having sex with you doesn't mean he's not thinking of it. Your still selling your body in a sexual way. I mean we could try and define sex here, but i'm starting to think sex to some people is penis enters the vagina.
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kitty_55

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Posted: 09-27-04 22:05pm

I have nothing agasint strip clubs I just wouldnt want my guy going there...Like yea I have .N.O. Self esstem so it would just make me so sh*tty... If I had a nice body I wouldnt miond being a stripper u make tons of money... But I dont think ill ever have a nice enough body to become one... Its a job.. When im older I cant wait to go see male strippers!! But if I did have a b/f and he went to strip clubs I would be so pissed off... But im single so....
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June4life

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Posted: 09-27-04 22:09pm

I'm willing to admit, that I have a rather nice body, lol. Its not that I dont trust my boyfriend going to a strip club, but like... He is out getting aroused by another naked girl, and coming home to me all horny. I would just feel flat out used. I know its not cheating... Well, a lap dance crosses the line. Thats cheating. But, I just dont feel right having him get aroused by another women and come home to me, knowing that i'm not the one who got him that way. And to top it off, the whole time he's prolly fantasizing about the dancers, and not about me.

I guess i'm just jealous!!
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kitty_55

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Posted: 09-27-04 22:13pm

Have you ever thought about giving him a lap dance?? I unnderstand how it makes u jeolous cuz it would make me too... But if he wants to go to one tell him if ur comotable(sp?) that u will give him one and get him hot at home lol....
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linuxChique

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Posted: 09-28-04 10:57am

Mike's only been a couple of times before we got together. He liked it then, but he doesn't even want to go now.
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cherriegurl

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Posted: 09-28-04 15:33pm

I have nothing against the strip clubs themselves but my man aint goin!!!
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sweetsuzi

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Posted: 09-28-04 17:19pm

I dont mind strip clubs, in fact if I had the body I would set up my own one and be adored my men who would make me very rich lol j/k

but you know if you are in love with someone and you are commited to one another, it takes the piss out of your reletionship. He should have no reason to go. It's not like guys make an effort to go every week or everytime there out with their mates. So I dont understand why they cant just give it a miss. It's called showing repect and grace to your other half!!

Some the strip clubs here wont allow women in lol
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