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Kia

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Posted: 10-07-04 18:04pm

juniper wrote:
high levels of hormones


the birth control pills are very low levels of hormones. It is so low that it will not affect an implanted pregnancy
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Posted: 10-07-04 18:11pm

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juniper

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Posted: 10-07-04 19:52pm

kia_breizzze wrote:
juniper wrote:
high levels of hormones


the birth control pills are very low levels of hormones. It is so low that it will not affect an implanted pregnancy

thanks kia, you are correct.

But let's look at the purpose of a birth control pill, it is to create an unnatural hormone balance within the woman's body. If a woman does not ovulate regularly (when not on bcp), it is a considered a medical condition.

How many other pills are there out there for men that create a normally undersireable medical condition?

In my personal experience, I found that the pill really messed me up for a long time. Some women tolerate it quite well, in fact, for many women it's a wonderful medical treatment for conditions like adenomyosis and endometriosis. Personally, I don't think any woman should be "talked into it."
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Kia

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Posted: 10-08-04 03:45am

Talked into it - nope.
But my point was that at least the young man in question was trying to act responsibly and not just assuming everything would be ok.

Sure b/c pills aren't for everyone, that's why there is such a diverse range.
I had to try 4 different types of b/c pill before I found one that suited me. I suffer from migraines and had to have one that wouldn't affect them. In the end I had the mini pill which contains only 1 hormone not 2 like most. This also means I can't take long term b/c methods like the injections because if I have a bad migraine reaction to them I can't stop taking it - I have to wait for it to wear off. I am also allergic to regular condoms - so had to find special hypo-allergenic ones.

7years ago I had my drink spiked and I got raped, he didn't bother with a condom, had I have been on birth control, I wouldn't have ended up pregnant from that incident.
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Re: How Can I Convince My Girlfriend to Go On Bc?
Posted: 10-08-04 08:14am

newlife wrote:
contrary to what many people believe sex is not meant to be for pleasure. It is meant to reproduce


that is absolutely the weirdest thing I have read here for a long time. Sex is a recreational, not a procreational activity for the vast majority of people. Let's see, what proportion of sex acts today are being done with the aim of conceiving? Hmmm...And even if someone is trying to conceive, it kind of helps that it is enjoyable. Let's just remember that the clitoris has no reproductive function whatever, by the way!

There really are some strange people out there.
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wakkochic17

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Posted: 10-08-04 13:51pm

Just because you use it as a recreation doesn't mean it was meant as a recreation.. Biologically it is meant for reproduction.. The reason it is pleasurable?? Hmm.. Do you think any of us would be drawn to it if it wasn't? Check what you read before you reply...

I still think it's good that he was at least trying to get her mind in the frameset that if she's going to participate it's better if she takes steps as well. I do agree that a diaphragm is a good way to go if she doesn't feel comfortable taking the pill....
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Posted: 10-08-04 15:37pm

chula616
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many people are happy on bc sometimes you just have to try a few brands until you find one that works for you.
great advice, for a grown up and at 19 you qualify.

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more surprising is how you guys are acting about sex, saying that gman and his girl shouldn't be having sex if they are so young, yet no one here even knows how old the boy is.
I think what did it for me is his saying her parents would be upset if they knew about their daughter’s sexual activity. What ever happened to the guys respecting his girl so much that he would not want to do anything to get her into any kind of trouble.


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and besides all of that you guys really need to stop acting like you were not having sex when you were young too.
perhaps that’s why we older gals know a bit more about the wrong choices the younger generation is making.

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come on now, we are in 2004. I am not saying that people should be having sex at 14 but I mean we do not even know how old the guy is. I am 19, and my boyfriend is 23, we have been together for two years, and yes I am sexually active and yes I am being responsible by taking bc, because I do not want to get pregnant because a condom broke, that's just stupid.
spoken like someone who’s 19 going on 35. I’m happy you know so much at such a young age… where were you when I needed someone to look up to?

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it's not like he can shove them down her throat if she says no!...
you’re just a font of wisdoms aren’tcha. Let’s give you 10 years on the pill and then see what advice you hand out like it’s chewing gum.

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you girls really need to lighten up!!
thanks for the pep talk. I feel so enlightened now. Feel free to express your opinions if you need to honey but stop giving me advice on mine.

newlife
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contrary to what many people believe sex is not meant to be for pleasure. It is meant to reproduce,
are you kidding??? Remember, this is not the [b]religion forum.

hmmm, recreate or procreate is that really the question... Here's a tidbit of insight. A woman's sexual peak is in her mid to late 40's which is usually after her childbearing years. Wink
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Posted: 10-08-04 16:07pm

kelli_ wrote:
newlife
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contrary to what many people believe sex is not meant to be for pleasure. It is meant to reproduce,
are you kidding??? Remember, this is not the religion forum.


the fact that sexual intercourse is for the purpose of re-production has nothing at all to do with religion. It is fact, no matter what you think in your tiny mind you can not change that.

So why don't you just quit being a health forum and shut up unless you have something useful to say.
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Posted: 10-09-04 00:06am

I never indicated sex was not for reproduction... Duh... I've reproduced a couple of times myself.

What I did indicate, and quite plainly I might add, was the fact that sex is not for reproductive purposes only. sexual intercourse has a dual purpose in our existence. Reproducing the human race ensuring we do not die out and for pleasure.

There are many tiny minded religions who claim sex is for procreation only. That is a religious faux pa of which I will not go into further because this is not a religious forum.

as far as me being a nerd... Who is jumping whom here?
Why don't you let by gones be bygones and get on with your life. You are much to young and vibrant to begin holding grudges.
What a waste of precious energies. The time you spend putting me in my place would be much better spent telling someone else how much you love and care for them.
I'm doing the same thing as you, expressing my opinions. Why all the fuss? Shocked

kelli
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Kia

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Posted: 10-09-04 08:56am

Don't patronise.
The fact that sex is for reproductive purposes is not a religious thing, don't go there.
Humans and dolphins are the only creatures to have sex for pleasure - this is not it's intended purpose, but a pleasant side effect.
I think you might find I am older than you.
Pleasure is not a purpose of sex.
I'm not holding grudges, I responded to a post.
All the fuss because I am sick of seeing you put people down.
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Posted: 10-09-04 11:21am

kia_breizzze wrote:

pleasure is not a purpose of sex.



sorry, dear -- for some people is is definitely the only purpose of sex.

If you mean in "the grand scheme of things" well, who cares? If our purpose isn't pleasure, then what is it? The "purpose" of food isn't pleasure either.
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Posted: 10-09-04 13:53pm

We are all different! I don't have sex to reproduce! I had a complete hysterectomy, I am 52y/o.
Sincerely,
sandy
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Posted: 10-09-04 16:49pm

Chimpanzees also engage in homosexual behavior as well as masturbation.So we are in good company!!I agree with sandy,lighten up!! Laughing patty
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Posted: 10-10-04 09:30am

So, how about, instead of everyone arguing with each other about everything they've written, you just try to give some useful advice to gman? Maybe you dont have any advice, thats cool... I dont either. It doesn't mean you need to rag on the other people that gave some. Let's all take some chill pills and carry on with our lives... Find something better to do than leave message after message of trying to make someone else feel their advice is worthless and/or wrong. :d
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Posted: 10-11-04 19:47pm

starshyne530 wrote:
so, how about, instead of everyone arguing with each other about everything they've written, you just try to give some useful advice to gman? Maybe you dont have any advice, thats cool... I dont either. It doesn't mean you need to rag on the other people that gave some. Let's all take some chill pills and carry on with our lives... Find something better to do than leave message after message of trying to make someone else feel their advice is worthless and/or wrong. :d



amen
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Posted: 10-11-04 20:18pm

Back to the original poster.

It is ultimately her decision and it is her body. You cannot convince her. And birth control can affect an implanted pregnancy. That is why it says not to take birth control while you are pregnant. (well, that and it is pointless)
yes, it wouldn't hurt her to get educated about birth control because it could benefit the both of you and would be the responsible thing to do. But, don't try to talk her into it if she doesn't want to.

And even if she does go on oral contraceptives, you still need to use condoms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Birth control is not 100% effective and people get pregnant on it everyday. So, even if she does go on the pill, you still need to do your part and wear condoms.
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Posted: 10-13-04 02:33am

[quote="kelli_"]chula616
[quote]i think what did it for me is his saying her parents would be upset if they knew about their daughter’s sexual activity.

Okay, just because her parents would be upset doesn't mean that they are too young. I mean, i'm 18 and sexually active, and even though i'm an adult, I choose not to divulge that fact to family members because my family is very religious and believe I shouldn't be having sex before marriage. Maybe that is why her parents would be upset??
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Posted: 10-13-04 12:30pm

I think one thing he should do is sit down with the gf and have a serious discussion about birth control and pregnancy. Tell her that you are very serious about her not getting pregnant, that you are not ready to be a father. Ask her what she would want to do if she got pregnant -- let's say for the sake of argument that a condom is about a 90% successful method of bc. Would she want to have an abortion? Are you okay with her choice -- i.E. If she would have one, are you okay with that, or if she wouldn't are you okay with being a father?

One thing to worry about is that she actually might want to get pregnant, and that is why she isn't going on bc, in which case you need to be really really careful.

You need to have this conversation, because taking chances with unwanted pregnancy is just not smart. If she isn't willing to at least discuss this subject with you, then she is not mature enough to be having sex.
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Chula616

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Posted: 10-14-04 07:53am

In response to what daile said:

"okay, just because her parents would be upset doesn't mean that they are too young"

that is sooo true. I mean my boyfriend is 23 years old and we don't want his parents to know we are having sex, 23 is surely old enough, and i'm sure that in their minds they know we are having sex, but that doesn't mean we have to tell them. I also have a cousin who is 21, and her parents don't think she should be having sex, in my opinion 21 is old enough too. It's not always religious, parents just think their kids should not be having sex until they get married. I myself am 19, and my mom does know, she found out when I got on bc, taking a pill everyday is hard to hide. Not that I was trying very hard, I didn't want to tell her but I didn't mind if she found out. So she found them, she didn't get mad, she's actually happy that I am being careful. If you think about it that's what counts, telling people they should not be having sex is not the best way to deal with the situation, because more than likely that person will not listen to you. A better way is to tell them what they need to do when they are sexually active, like using condoms, or some other type of bc.

And as far as sex being only for reproduction.... Come on now, that may be true sex is needed to reproduce. But how many couples do you know, that have children and then stop having sex forever.... Ummm none. That's why people get their tubes tied after they are done having children.
And you know what ladies?, I honestly think that if you do stop having sex after having children, your husbands will probably cheat on you!
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Chula616

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Posted: 10-14-04 07:54am

Oh you know what's another thing, the guy who made up this post has not answered even once!!!!!!!!!!........... So all this energy for nothing!!!!!!
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