Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 6594 Location: Planet Tampaxia,
Posted: 10-07-04 18:04pm
juniper
wrote:
high levels of
hormones
the birth control pills are very low
levels of hormones. It is so low that it
will not affect an implanted pregnancy
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newlife
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Joined: 13 Jun 2004 Posts: 874
Posted: 10-07-04 18:11pm
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juniper
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Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 65 Location: Southern California
Posted: 10-07-04 19:52pm
kia_breizzze
wrote:
juniper
wrote:
high levels of
hormones
the birth control pills are very low
levels of hormones. It is so low that it
will not affect an implanted
pregnancy
thanks kia, you are correct.
But let's look at the purpose of a birth
control pill, it is to create an unnatural
hormone balance within the woman's body.
If a woman does not ovulate regularly
(when not on bcp), it is a considered a
medical condition.
How many other pills are there out there
for men that create a normally
undersireable medical condition?
In my personal experience, I found that
the pill really messed me up for a long
time. Some women tolerate it quite well,
in fact, for many women it's a wonderful
medical treatment for conditions like
adenomyosis and endometriosis.
Personally, I don't think any woman should
be "talked into it."
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Kia
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Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 6594 Location: Planet Tampaxia,
Posted: 10-08-04 03:45am
Talked into it - nope.
But my point was that at least the young
man in question was trying to act
responsibly and not just assuming
everything would be ok.
Sure b/c pills aren't for everyone, that's
why there is such a diverse range.
I had to try 4 different types of b/c pill
before I found one that suited me. I
suffer from migraines and had to have one
that wouldn't affect them. In the end I
had the mini pill which contains only 1
hormone not 2 like most. This also means
I can't take long term b/c methods like
the injections because if I have a bad
migraine reaction to them I can't stop
taking it - I have to wait for it to wear
off. I am also allergic to regular
condoms - so had to find special
hypo-allergenic ones.
7years ago I had my drink spiked and I got
raped, he didn't bother with a condom, had
I have been on birth control, I wouldn't
have ended up pregnant from that incident.
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oopoopoop
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Re: How Can I Convince My Girlfriend to Go On Bc? Posted: 10-08-04 08:14am
newlife
wrote:
contrary to what many
people believe sex is not meant to be for
pleasure. It is meant to
reproduce
that is absolutely the weirdest thing I
have read here for a long time. Sex is a
recreational, not a procreational activity
for the vast majority of people. Let's
see, what proportion of sex acts today are
being done with the aim of conceiving?
Hmmm...And even if someone is trying to
conceive, it kind of helps that it is
enjoyable. Let's just remember that the
clitoris has no reproductive function
whatever, by the way!
There really are some strange people out
there.
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wakkochic17
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 494 Location: South Carolina
Posted: 10-08-04 13:51pm
Just because you use it as a recreation
doesn't mean it was meant as a
recreation.. Biologically it is meant for
reproduction.. The reason it is
pleasurable?? Hmm.. Do you think any of
us would be drawn to it if it wasn't?
Check what you read before you reply...
I still think it's good that he was at
least trying to get her mind in the
frameset that if she's going to
participate it's better if she takes steps
as well. I do agree that a diaphragm is
a good way to go if she doesn't feel
comfortable taking the pill....
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Kelli_
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Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 46 Location: America
Posted: 10-08-04 15:37pm
chula616
Quote:
tr>
many people are
happy on bc sometimes you just have to try
a few brands until you find one that works
for you.
great advice, for a
grown up and at 19 you qualify.
Quote:
tr>
more surprising
is how you guys are acting about sex,
saying that gman and his girl shouldn't be
having sex if they are so young, yet no
one here even knows how old the boy is.
I think what did it for
me is his saying her parents would be
upset if they knew about their daughter’s
sexual activity. What ever happened to
the guys respecting his girl so much that
he would not want to do anything to get
her into any kind of trouble.
Quote:
tr>
and besides all
of that you guys really need to stop
acting like you were not having sex when
you were young
too.
perhaps that’s why we
older gals know a bit more about the wrong
choices the younger generation is
making.
Quote:
tr>
come on now, we
are in 2004. I am not saying that people
should be having sex at 14 but I mean we
do not even know how old the guy is. I am
19, and my boyfriend is 23, we have been
together for two years, and yes I am
sexually active and yes I am being
responsible by taking bc, because I do not
want to get pregnant because a condom
broke, that's just stupid.
spoken like someone
who’s 19 going on 35. I’m happy you know
so much at such a young age… where were
you when I needed someone to look up to?
Quote:
tr>
it's not like he
can shove them down her throat if she says
no!...
you’re just a font of
wisdoms aren’tcha. Let’s give you 10
years on the pill and then see what advice
you hand out like it’s chewing gum.
Quote:
tr>
you girls really
need to lighten
up!!
thanks for the pep
talk. I feel so enlightened now. Feel
free to express your opinions if you need
to honey but stop giving me advice on
mine.
newlife
Quote:
tr>
contrary to what
many people believe sex is not meant to be
for pleasure. It is meant to reproduce,
are you kidding???
Remember, this is not the [b]religion
forum.
hmmm, recreate or procreate is that really
the question... Here's a tidbit of
insight. A woman's sexual peak is in her
mid to late 40's which is usually
after her childbearing years.
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Kia
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Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 6594 Location: Planet Tampaxia,
Posted: 10-08-04 16:07pm
kelli_
wrote:
newlife
Quote:
tr>
contrary to what
many people believe sex is not meant to be
for pleasure. It is meant to reproduce,
are you kidding???
Remember, this is not the religion
forum.
the fact that sexual intercourse is for
the purpose of re-production has nothing
at all to do with religion. It is fact,
no matter what you think in your tiny mind
you can not change that.
So why don't you just quit being a health
forum and shut up unless you have
something useful to say.
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Kelli_
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Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 46 Location: America
Kia Dahling Posted: 10-09-04 00:06am
I never indicated sex was not for
reproduction... Duh... I've reproduced a
couple of times myself.
What I did indicate, and quite
plainly I might add, was the fact that
sex is not
for reproductive purposes only.
sexual intercourse has a dual purpose in
our existence. Reproducing the human
race ensuring we do not die out and for
pleasure.
There are many tiny minded religions who
claim sex is for procreation only. That
is a religious faux pa of which I will not
go into further because this is not a
religious forum.
as far as me being a nerd... Who is
jumping whom here?
Why don't you let by gones be bygones and
get on with your life. You are much to
young and vibrant to begin holding
grudges.
What a waste of precious energies. The
time you spend putting me in my place
would be much better spent telling someone
else how much you love and care for
them.
I'm doing the same thing as you,
expressing my opinions. Why all the
fuss?
kelli
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Kia
Supporter
Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 6594 Location: Planet Tampaxia,
Posted: 10-09-04 08:56am
Don't patronise.
The fact that sex is for reproductive
purposes is not a religious thing, don't
go there.
Humans and dolphins are the only creatures
to have sex for pleasure - this is not
it's intended purpose, but a pleasant side
effect.
I think you might find I am older than
you.
Pleasure is not a purpose of sex.
I'm not holding grudges, I responded to a
post.
All the fuss because I am sick of seeing
you put people down.
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 10-09-04 11:21am
kia_breizzze
wrote:
pleasure is not a purpose of sex.
sorry, dear -- for some people is is
definitely the only purpose of sex.
If you mean in "the grand scheme of
things" well, who cares? If our purpose
isn't pleasure, then what is it? The
"purpose" of food isn't pleasure either.
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Gosh You People! Posted: 10-09-04 13:53pm
We are all different! I don't have sex
to reproduce! I had a complete
hysterectomy, I am 52y/o.
Sincerely,
sandy
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PattyV
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Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1103 Location: Chicago area
Posted: 10-09-04 16:49pm
Chimpanzees also engage in homosexual
behavior as well as masturbation.So we are
in good company!!I agree with
sandy,lighten up!!
patty
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starshyne530
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 90 Location: NY
Posted: 10-10-04 09:30am
So, how about, instead of everyone arguing
with each other about everything they've
written, you just try to give some useful
advice to gman? Maybe you dont have any
advice, thats cool... I dont either. It
doesn't mean you need to rag on the other
people that gave some. Let's all take
some chill pills and carry on with our
lives... Find something better to do than
leave message after message of trying to
make someone else feel their advice is
worthless and/or wrong. :d
so, how about, instead of
everyone arguing with each other about
everything they've written, you just try
to give some useful advice to gman?
Maybe you dont have any advice, thats
cool... I dont either. It doesn't mean
you need to rag on the other people that
gave some. Let's all take some chill
pills and carry on with our lives...
Find something better to do than leave
message after message of trying to make
someone else feel their advice is
worthless and/or wrong.
:d
amen
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2ferano
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Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 10-11-04 20:18pm
Back to the original poster.
It is ultimately her decision and it is
her body. You cannot convince her. And
birth control can affect an implanted
pregnancy. That is why it says not to
take birth control while you are pregnant.
(well, that and it is pointless)
yes, it wouldn't hurt her to get educated
about birth control because it could
benefit the both of you and would be the
responsible thing to do. But, don't try
to talk her into it if she doesn't want
to.
And even if she does go on oral
contraceptives, you still need to use
condoms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Birth control is not
100% effective and people get pregnant on
it everyday. So, even if she does go on
the pill, you still need to do your part
and wear condoms.
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Daile
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Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 319 Location: Missouri
Posted: 10-13-04 02:33am
[quote="kelli_"]chula616
[quote]i think what did it for me is his
saying her parents would be upset if they
knew about their daughter’s sexual
activity.
Okay, just because her parents would be
upset doesn't mean that they are too
young. I mean, i'm 18 and sexually
active, and even though i'm an adult, I
choose not to divulge that fact to family
members because my family is very
religious and believe I shouldn't be
having sex before marriage. Maybe that is
why her parents would be upset??
I think one thing he should do is sit down
with the gf and have a serious discussion
about birth control and pregnancy. Tell
her that you are very serious about her
not getting pregnant, that you are not
ready to be a father. Ask her what she
would want to do if she got pregnant --
let's say for the sake of argument that a
condom is about a 90% successful method of
bc. Would she want to have an abortion?
Are you okay with her choice -- i.E. If
she would have one, are you okay with
that, or if she wouldn't are you okay with
being a father?
One thing to worry about is that she
actually might want to get pregnant, and
that is why she isn't going on bc, in
which case you need to be really really
careful.
You need to have this conversation,
because taking chances with unwanted
pregnancy is just not smart. If she isn't
willing to at least discuss this subject
with you, then she is not mature enough to
be having sex.
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Chula616
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Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 36 Location: Miami, FL
Posted: 10-14-04 07:53am
In response to what daile said:
"okay, just because her parents would be
upset doesn't mean that they are too
young"
that is sooo true. I mean my boyfriend is
23 years old and we don't want his parents
to know we are having sex, 23 is surely
old enough, and i'm sure that in their
minds they know we are having sex, but
that doesn't mean we have to tell them. I
also have a cousin who is 21, and her
parents don't think she should be having
sex, in my opinion 21 is old enough too.
It's not always religious, parents just
think their kids should not be having sex
until they get married. I myself am 19,
and my mom does know, she found out when I
got on bc, taking a pill everyday is hard
to hide. Not that I was trying very hard,
I didn't want to tell her but I didn't
mind if she found out. So she found them,
she didn't get mad, she's actually happy
that I am being careful. If you think
about it that's what counts, telling
people they should not be having sex is
not the best way to deal with the
situation, because more than likely that
person will not listen to you. A better
way is to tell them what they need to do
when they are sexually active, like using
condoms, or some other type of bc.
And as far as sex being only for
reproduction.... Come on now, that may be
true sex is needed to reproduce. But how
many couples do you know, that have
children and then stop having sex
forever.... Ummm none. That's why people
get their tubes tied after they are done
having children.
And you know what ladies?, I honestly
think that if you do stop having sex after
having children, your husbands will
probably cheat on you!
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Chula616
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Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 36 Location: Miami, FL
Posted: 10-14-04 07:54am
Oh you know what's another thing, the guy
who made up this post has not answered
even once!!!!!!!!!!........... So all
this energy for nothing!!!!!!