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rissalee21
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Just Thinking..
Posted: 10-01-04 22:04pm
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Okay ladies I was sitting here today with
my mom rebekah my sister and my sisters
friend and her baby who is like 8 mths
now..And shes 18. Well we were talking
about abortion. And like how kerry is
pro-choice and bush is like totally
against it..I know this to some might not
sound good..But I belive that people who
have abortions at a very young age knowing
they cannot provide for there baby nor
themselves at this point are doing the
right thing and not being selfish. Yea I
do not belive in abortions beacsue if you
lay down you damn well need to be able to
handle the outcome. I did not think id be
able to take care of rebekah or
anything..And im doing great..But sorry to
say all of us pretty much on here have
help..Wic,
medicaid..Family..Boyfriends..Friends..Hus
bands..I know many people who have none of
that nad I think it is very selfish to
bring a baby into that. And I think its
insane to think adoption who could carry a
baby 9 mths and then just hand it away
like it was nothng..Knowing in 18 years
most liekly its going to find you and ask
why you did that..I just cant see that. I
belive medicaid and wic should be used for
certain circumstances not for people
laying aroun with there legs wide open
poppin out kids doing nothing with
themselves and living on the state..But
some need it and thats what its for to put
mothers on there feet. What do yall feel
about the situation..?
Oh yea another thing is when you have an
abortion 3 weeks after conception
scientifically it is nothing more then
cells..That eventually yes will form a
baby. But the biblically it is a baby the
day yu concieve it.I just wanna know what
everything thinks:) no offense to anyone
by this ..
<3
marisa
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bellax0x
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Posted: 10-01-04 22:08pm
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I agree. Im prochoice, but I prefer
adoption over abortion. People who put
there babies up have a lot of courage, but
I could never do taht.
I believe a bayb is a baby from the
moment it is conceived
<3
gaby
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rissalee21
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Posted: 10-01-04 22:10pm
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Yeh me 2. And it should always be
pr-choice women havea right to say what
happens with there own body
<3
marisa
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linuxChique
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Posted: 10-01-04 22:42pm
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Ok, i'm probably going to get flamed for
this big time. I'm pro-life. I think
abortion should be illegal in all cases
except rape where requested by the victim
and cases in which the mother's life is in
danger. I think any girl/woman who has
sex willingly and gets pregnant as a
result of it should not have the right to
escape the consequences of her actions. I
think adoption and motherhood should be
the only choices in cases like that. It
isn't like babies don't fly out of the
government's hands like hotcakes to
adoptive parents. And it teaches the
girl/woman a lesson in birth control that
no other experience can teach.
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bd1012
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Posted: 10-02-04 00:36am
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I used to be prolife but now I am
prochoice.. I am an active debater over
at prochoicetalk.Com if you want to check
it out. That is the site where I found
this one from becuase someone else came on
here that was over there and mentioned it.
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rissalee21
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Location: michigan
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Posted: 10-02-04 01:07am
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No erin you wont get flamed hun everyone
has opinions on everything..I love
deabting situations though..Lol..I dont
belive thats right though for the fact
thats a good lesson of birth control
right? So a baby should be without just
for birth control? People do make
mistakes.. So a baby should have to live
with that the rest of there life? A baby
is a life..That a parent should be ready
for. Birth control is not 100 percent..So
a young girl is smart and uses protection
everytime but yet she knows she cant
finacially support or care for a baby its
wrong? And who can tell me..They would
carry there own baby for 9 mths feel it
kick deliver it kno its a part of them and
then hand it to a family..Even though it
may be a wonderful one..Who could do
that?
<3
marisa
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lauren22
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Posted: 10-02-04 01:24am
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| rissalee21
wrote: | and who can tell me..They
would carry there own baby for 9 mths feel
it kick deliver it kno its a part of them
and then hand it to a family..Even though
it may be a wonderful one..Who could do
that?
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so just kill it? Are you saying it would
be easier just to kill your baby than to
give it life and let another family raise
it? To me...Abortion is just selfish!
There isnt going to be a way around
everything in life...Sometimes people need
to accept consequences!
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Kia
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Posted: 10-02-04 05:10am
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I'm kinda with erin.
I have had a termination 7 years ago - but
in my case it was after date-rape.
I think its great that the option is there
in these situations but I think it should
be more difficult to have a termination
just because you got pregnant.
What I am trying to say is that it should
be almost impossible to use as a method of
birth control because it isn't.
Did I make sense?
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smith8500
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Posted: 10-02-04 09:36am
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| linuxchique
wrote: | | ok, i'm probably going to
get flamed for this big time. I'm
pro-life. I think abortion should be
illegal in all cases except rape where
requested by the victim and cases in which
the mother's life is in danger. I think
any girl/woman who has sex willingly and
gets pregnant as a result of it should not
have the right to escape the consequences
of her actions. I think adoption and
motherhood should be the only choices in
cases like that. It isn't like babies
don't fly out of the government's hands
like hotcakes to adoptive parents. And
it teaches the girl/woman a lesson in
birth control that no other experience can
teach. |
amen to that one!
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bd1012
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Posted: 10-02-04 12:06pm
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To all you prolife people.. What is
really so good about life anyway? If you
ask me right now "what if you were
aborted" I would say yes because I really
see nothing good in life right now, there
really is no point. If you are alive,
then you work to have a great life for
your mental health and you try to live the
best life you can but it's nothing to
actually cause anyone want to if they had
the choice to be put on this earth to
live. Living life to the fullest is
something you strive for because you are
already here, life is not something I
would chose over being nonexistant. I
mean, I don't know if it's because the bad
mood I am in or not but when I really
think about it.. Life sucks but I am not
going to commit suicide because right now
I have this stupid heaven and hell caca
that I have to worry about. I know I am
not christian but I don't want to take
that chance though I doubt suicide would
be the only thing destining me for hell.
Right now I have a bf and I am happy
around him usually and he is the only
reason I am even living right now other
than the hell thing and it's great while
it lasts but he's gonna die someday and
when that happens, I will be extremely
depressed... Well I don't really know how
to say it but it's nothing to look forward
to, but I can't kill myself now can I
because this stupid hell thing I have to
worry about not that I wouldn't be in hell
on earth if something happens to him
anyway.. So right now I know my life
consists of a little temporary happiness
and then when it goes.. It goes and i'm
stuck picking which hell I want to stay
in, and right now there is no way I can
get around it. It would be easy for the
christians to say.. "well just devote
your life to god and you don't have to
worry about it".. That's just it.. I
dont' want to devote my life to something
compromising what I want to do, and it all
turn out to be a lie. Basically what i'm
saying is, life is not worth choosing over
being nonexistant.
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lauren22
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Posted: 10-02-04 12:17pm
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Brandy- i'm really sorry you feel that
way! Its hard for me to imagine having
nothing in life to look forward to because
there is so much to look forward to!
Getting married...Having kids...Your
friends getting married and having
kids....Neices and nephews....And
everything else! I think you have to find
what you are passionate about in life and
strive for it....That will give you
something to look forward to and
accomplish! But yeah...Im sorry you feel
like that!
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bd1012
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Posted: 10-02-04 12:22pm
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All that is great when it happens but for
me, I have a major roadblock.. Deep down
I know any happiness is temporary. To
all those girls who look for love and
can't find it, stop looking. I have
found it and in the end, it will only turn
out for the worst. Death is inevitable
and I know it will happen, I can only hope
I go first. As long as if you do find
it, it won't crumble your foundation when
it's over go ahead, but now I feel like I
am dangling over a black hole by a thread
that can snap at anytime. I don't blame
my bf at all, I blame life and I blame my
mom for deciding life for me when if I had
a choice, I would have chosen to never
have been.
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Kia
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Posted: 10-02-04 15:22pm
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Wow, thats deep.
I hope you are able to work past this in
your life and find that while each
happiness may be temporary there is always
another to look forward to.
But the reason I think termination
shouldn't be freely available is that
hopefully it would make more people (girls
and boys) think before they act.
It isn't a method of birth control, people
should be able to accept the consequences
of their actions.
I appreciate that accidents do happen -
split condoms etc which obviously you have
less control over than missing a b/c
pill.
I never thought I would find mr right but
he came along when I was 22! Even if this
happiness is only temporary I sure am
gonna make the most of it while I have
it.
You don't realise what you have until it
is gone.
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linuxChique
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Posted: 10-02-04 15:24pm
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| bd1012
wrote: | | to all you prolife people..
What is really so good about life
anyway? |
that's not for us to decide for someone
else. All of us had mothers who didn't
choose abortion in our cases. What if
they had? We wouldn't be here discussing
it. We would have never had the chance.
We were given the chance, and its the
least we can do to give it to others when
we have the chance.
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GuitarJade
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Posted: 10-02-04 20:16pm
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I am definatly prolife. I think that
abortion is wrong and should only be used
in the extreme situations of: 1-rape (no
matter what kind) and 2-if it's a hazard
to the health of the mother and/or baby.
Although i'm prolife, i'm not going to
condemn anybody for choosing abortion over
adoption or keeping it (i have a friend
who had an abortion... Although she's a
wreck now that it's done) because I don't
feel it's right for me to judge like that.
But I believe that if you're old enough
to have sex, you're old enough to handle
all the responsibilities and consequences
that entails. Plus, abortions are just
gross... I mean, they basically puree the
baby. *shudder* 
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bellax0x
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Posted: 10-02-04 20:52pm
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" I think abortion should be illegal in
all cases except rape where requested by
the victim and cases in which the mother's
life is in danger. "
youre either completely pro-life or
pro-choice , you cant really be half and
half
"bd1012 wrote:
to all you prolife people.. What is
really so good about life anyway?
That's not for us to decide for someone
else. "
so why should you be able to decide for
someone else what they do with their
bodies?
Im prochoice all the way but would never
have one myself. Who is going to take
care of all those neglected babies and
women that die giving themselves
abortions? Let me tell you somthing, the
women who want them (if it were illigal)
and cant have them.. Theyre not all going
to put their babies up for adoption. Some
will keep them and abuse them or kill
them.
<3
gaby
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linuxChique
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Posted: 10-02-04 21:42pm
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| bellax0x
wrote: | youre either completely
pro-life or pro-choice , you cant really
be half and half
"that's not for us to decide for someone
else. "
so why should you be able to decide for
someone else what they do with their
bodies? |
ok, about the first statement, yes you
can, and I am. I just explained it.
About the second statement, that was my
whole point, you just repeated what I
said.
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nippz
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Posted: 10-02-04 22:24pm
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I agree with gaby.
Adoption over abortion,
unless having the baby is hazardous to ur
health
and you could die, then that's another
story.
But other than that, at least give the
baby the chance to live instead
of aborting it. There's plenty of people
out there who can't even have children and
would love to adopt one (:
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cherriegurl
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bd1012
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Posted: 10-02-04 22:44pm
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| linuxchique
wrote: | | bd1012
wrote: | | to all you prolife people..
What is really so good about life
anyway? |
that's not for us to decide for someone
else. All of us had mothers who didn't
choose abortion in our cases. What if
they had? We wouldn't be here discussing
it. We would have never had the chance.
We were given the chance, and its the
least we can do to give it to others when
we have the chance. |
my mother chose life for me,, had I had a
choice, I might have chosen to be
nonexistant.. So childbirth violated my
right to nonexistance. I'm serious. I
never want kids so I may get sterilized
sometime in the near future or I might
just get an iud.. I have a bad temper, I
really don't want kids around me when I
get angry and if you saw me when I get
angry, you wouldn't either.
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