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Michelle1337

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Posted: 10-11-04 20:52pm

I have to say I disagree...I dont think there should ever be a choice...

Things happen in life, and if being raped is one of them then I think you should deal. Yes it is a horrible .H.O.R.R.I.B.L.E situation! But it still a life, whether it was forced or not.

The problem is that if your raped your gonna have emotional problems and struggle with or without a baby and thats gonna stick with you no matter what. So would you rather double the load and add homicide? Or follow through and bring forth a life and be able to say you persevered? Even if you give the baby up for adoption...
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bellax0x

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Posted: 10-11-04 20:53pm

Im completely pro choice

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smith8500

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Posted: 10-11-04 20:58pm

The only reason I am for rape abortion is because (i would never do it....) but..... I don't think someone should be forced to carry the child of someone they didn't consent to having sex with as well as.... Serial killers and phediophiles (spelling?) have been linked to dna issues and therefore if a serial rapest rapes you.... There is a large chance that your child may have that same problem. But that isn't my main reasoning. I just think that if you were raped.... You should have a choice. Considering that it's within the first 3 months of conception.
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lauren22

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Posted: 10-11-04 21:06pm

Chanda- why within the first 3 months of conception?

Also, I dont believe serial killers and rapists can be passed down genetically! The reason things like that are "passed down" is the way you are raised and family issues. If your family has issues and a child is brought up in that enviornment, they are going to be affected by those things. They may grow up to believe that "getting revenge" on people is ok...And who knows maybe that makes them think killing is ok! But I dont think its genetic...Or at least i've never heard of that chromosome!
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smith8500

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Posted: 10-11-04 21:09pm

Yes . It's been researched. Look up derick todd lee here in louisiana and it is just one example of dna make-up affecting a person.
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LaurensEntourage

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Posted: 10-11-04 21:46pm

Rape is traumatic enough, but imagine having a souvenir? Most people aren't capable of that emotionally. My sister had an abortion,and I guess it was because she was "inconvenienced". She had finally gotten the courage to break up with her violent, abusive boyfriend and then found out she was pregnant. Now she's happily married with three beautiful girls and she thinks about that abortion all the time. She feels devastated but says plain and simple she wuldn't be where she is today if she hadn't done it.

As far as parental concent... I think that when you're forced to have to tell your parents before taking b/c or having an abortion is when girls go into third world countries for abortions that are done improperly or try it themselves (wire hangers). All the morning after pill is is a double dose of birth control. In my opinion the morning after pill tempts fate just as much as condoms or other birth control.

I also believe that abortion should be illegal for all or legal for all, not just some. You don't have to tell the doctor why you're getting an abortion, so you should either be able to have one or not be able to. The only exception being partial birth abortion when medically necessary which no one chooses to have. There are so many reasons women have abortions and for the few women who suck and use abortion as a form of birth control, well no system's perfect. There will always be that select few who, well, suck.

I think adoption is a beautiful and wonderful option that should be made more often, but i'm not every woman and I believe in choice for all and not for some. Abortion is legal for a reason and it is a right women have fought for so I stand by it. I think it's also a beautiful thing that you have the right to choose whether or not to do it and that if you choose to, you can have it done by a professional in a professional manner.

Well that's my story and i'm sticking to it. Agree with it, don't agree with it... I support your .C.H.O.I.C.E! And because you can't tell the tone of my "voice" as I am typing this, it's very calm and serene and not erratic at all, just my opinion.
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pitterpatter

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Posted: 10-11-04 21:55pm

Bd1012 if you don't want kids go get your tubes tied and get you bf fixed. Then wear protection and take bc pills. If you still get pregnant than you know that it was meant to be. And like everyone else here I don't agree with abortion unless it's because of rape, or some harm to the mother. Other than that if you wanna have sex you should be prepared to have a kid. If your that terrified of having kids than yeah maybe you shouldn't be having sex. I would tell that to a teen and i'm telling that to you. If you don't want kids don't have sex. It's as simple as that. Otherwise you should have to be prepared and if you do get pregnant give the baby up for adoption. God, what is with people these days!
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pitterpatter

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Posted: 10-11-04 22:07pm

Oh about the genetic thing. I'm starting to believe that too! My cousin was adopted and he's a great little boy, but he's the outcome of rape and the one thing we found out is that he has an adhd thing where he constantly argues with you and he never thinks he's wrong about anything. His behavior for the most part is good, except with that. Which imagine a serial killer with that! They would always think they are right no matter what they did. I'm not saying he would do anything to anyone, but I do think he has a higher chance of it than most people. God forbid something ever happened. I don't know what I would do.
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bd1012

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Posted: 10-11-04 22:25pm

chandaloss wrote:
bd1012 wrote:
ok so I guess all married couples shouldn't engage in any sexual activity if they have strict plans on not having kids,, at least not for a decent amount of time.... Rolling Eyes sex is not the determining factor in having kids, fertility and infertility is. I strictly plan on never having any kids.. So does that mean my husband has to be celibate .F.O.R.E.V.E.R because I don't wany any children whatsoever? Yeah.. Get real. Rolling Eyes


if you don't want the kids..... Get on b/c. Make him use condoms and when you are able...............Have yor reproductive organs removed or tie your tubes. But do not tell me that if you get preggy and it's an inconvience to you that you are going to homicide a child. That is sick. And if you won't like kids and they are an inconvienece I don't understand why you continue to post on this forum. No, I am not telling you to leave so dont' come at me with that "i'll stay where I want b*ll$hit". I'm just saying.


Anbd you can't stricty plan on not having kids unless you have your tubes tied/organs removed/or never have sex. Because huni:
abortion does not make you un-pregnant; it simply makes you the mother of a dead child.


it's funny.. When I was prolife as you all were (i was pl when I first came here fyi) I got chewed out by pcr's just as bad as i'm getting chewed out by you all prolifers now that i'm prochoice.. Btw.. I do plan on getting them tied in the future.. But for .N.O.W. I am on depo until I get the iud. It just proves that there is .N.O safe stance on abortion other than to be neutral and sometiems that doesn't even put you in the safe zone. Mommabear, I wasn't saying you were a biotch.. I really wasn't trying to be rude at all.. Sorry if I came off that way..
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bd1012

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Posted: 10-11-04 22:32pm

pitterpatter wrote:
bd1012 if you don't want kids go get your tubes tied and get you bf fixed. Then wear protection and take bc pills. If you still get pregnant than you know that it was meant to be. And like everyone else here I don't agree with abortion unless it's because of rape, or some harm to the mother. Other than that if you wanna have sex you should be prepared to have a kid. If your that terrified of having kids than yeah maybe you shouldn't be having sex. I would tell that to a teen and i'm telling that to you. If you don't want kids don't have sex. It's as simple as that. Otherwise you should have to be prepared and if you do get pregnant give the baby up for adoption. God, what is with people these days!


how about you don't tell me what to do and stay out of my uterus.. I don't want kids and I will have sex.. Why? Because I said so and i"m on the most reliable form of birth control that is out there besides the iud which I have plans to get on and if I dont want kids after the iud runs out, I am getting my tubes tied.. I have been on this form of bc for a year and combined with hypothyroidism which can mess with fertility and the fact that I haven't had a single period in over a year.. I'm not getting pregnant. What is with you people these days trying to make others go by your morals?
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mommabear16

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Posted: 10-11-04 22:53pm

Just doing it chill out okay?? God damn
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2ferano

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Posted: 10-11-04 23:14pm

When bush can get pregnant than I will listen to his views on abortion.
Giving out the morning after pill isn't condoning unprotected or premarital sex. It is simply allowing the people to take charge of their lives/bodies and even their mistakes.
A lot of people's parents would make them carry the fetus full-term and then give birth only for that child to be abused right along with them.
I am prochoice all of the way and will fight it all the way. We have too many unwanted, abused and homeless children in this world already. We don't need to make all of these women carry fetuses only to add to that number. And bush cannot fall pregnant and therefore I don't think should have any say whatsoever in abortion.
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pitterpatter

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Posted: 10-11-04 23:46pm

Okay it's one thing for you to say you don't want kids, but it's another thing for you to say I won't have kids. My best friend doesn't want kids, but she knows good and well that because she is sexually active she has the chance of having kids. It comes with the territory. It's like saying I don't want to go to jail, but I want to do drugs. If you do drugs you have ot be prepared to go to jail or pay a fine. I won't get in a car accident, but i'll drive my own car. I won't get std's, but i'll have sex. These are all consequences of your actions. The difference is you are creating the opportunity to get pregnant with a child and you are certain you will kill it! Your nuts!
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sdwood2

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Posted: 10-12-04 06:47am

bd1012 wrote:
pitterpatter wrote:
bd1012 if you don't want kids go get your tubes tied and get you bf fixed. Then wear protection and take bc pills. If you still get pregnant than you know that it was meant to be. And like everyone else here I don't agree with abortion unless it's because of rape, or some harm to the mother. Other than that if you wanna have sex you should be prepared to have a kid. If your that terrified of having kids than yeah maybe you shouldn't be having sex. I would tell that to a teen and i'm telling that to you. If you don't want kids don't have sex. It's as simple as that. Otherwise you should have to be prepared and if you do get pregnant give the baby up for adoption. God, what is with people these days!


how about you don't tell me what to do and stay out of my uterus.. I don't want kids and I will have sex.. Why? Because I said so and i"m on the most reliable form of birth control that is out there besides the iud which I have plans to get on and if I dont want kids after the iud runs out, I am getting my tubes tied.. I have been on this form of bc for a year and combined with hypothyroidism which can mess with fertility and the fact that I haven't had a single period in over a year.. I'm not getting pregnant. What is with you people these days trying to make others go by your morals?



lol most reliable form of birth control that is out there besides the iud lol the most reliable is not having sex and this hypothyroidism which can mess with fertility un let me tell you if you think that is also why you have not got pg think agin there are all kinds of people with kids that have this and I am one of them I also think its funny how you keep talking about it like thats why you never got pg. And another thing you can get pg on the depo its has happened so just get over it stop saying the same thing over and over again we know you have hypothyroidism and that you think you are on the most reliable form of birth control that is out there but if you dont want to have kids then why are you even in here. You also like to turn peoples words around and I am sick of it.
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bd1012

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Posted: 10-12-04 09:52am

I am not turning anyone's words around and last time I checked, there was no rule stating that you had to be ttc or want to have kids in order to be in this forum.
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bd1012

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Posted: 10-12-04 10:07am

pitterpatter wrote:
okay it's one thing for you to say you don't want kids, but it's another thing for you to say I won't have kids. My best friend doesn't want kids, but she knows good and well that because she is sexually active she has the chance of having kids. It comes with the territory. It's like saying I don't want to go to jail, but I want to do drugs. If you do drugs you have ot be prepared to go to jail or pay a fine. I won't get in a car accident, but i'll drive my own car. I won't get std's, but i'll have sex. These are all consequences of your actions. The difference is you are creating the opportunity to get pregnant with a child and you are certain you will kill it! Your nuts!

i am certain I will kill it? When did I ever say that?? I am not fighting so I can abort.. I am fighting for the right.. In case I would ever need to for some reason.. I will prob give it up for adoption but I never said I will def abort. Talk about twisting words..

Ever heard the saying "i don't agree with what you're saying, but I will fight for your right to say it"?
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pitterpatter

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Posted: 10-12-04 12:09pm

Okay, why are you getting so pissed? If you don't like this conversation than go on a pro choice trip in the abortion area. Right now though your on a pregnancy forum and people don't feel as passionate as you about abortion. Sorry hun, but the way you say things just makes it seem that you would abort no matter what and that you pretty much hate kids. So yeah, maybe I twisted your words, but your so damm cold to me I don't care if what I say angers you off. You should know better than to preach to people who love children. Why are you on this pregnancy board anyways if you don't want kids. That just doesn't make sense! Honey, I think you need to find a different board because everyone here either wants a baby either now or someday down the road or has one and they love children! So if you want to preach about your abortion addiction than please go somewhere else.
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mommabear16

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Posted: 10-12-04 12:12pm

So here is the thought..She believes what she believes...
Bd- we believe what we believe

drop it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bd1012

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Posted: 10-12-04 12:13pm

Quote:
why are you on this pregnancy board anyways if you don't want kids.


i am going to make a seperate topic on this becuase I keep getting asked it over and over and over..
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pitterpatter

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Posted: 10-12-04 12:14pm

Meaning that hmmm.... Maybe you shouldn't be on here right? Now that's a smart idea you smarty!
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