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Michelle1337
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 1739 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: 10-11-04 20:52pm
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I have to say I disagree...I dont think
there should ever be a choice...
Things happen in life, and if being raped
is one of them then I think you should
deal. Yes it is a horrible
.H.O.R.R.I.B.L.E situation! But it still
a life, whether it was forced or not.
The problem is that if your raped your
gonna have emotional problems and struggle
with or without a baby and thats gonna
stick with you no matter what. So would
you rather double the load and add
homicide? Or follow through and bring
forth a life and be able to say you
persevered? Even if you give the baby up
for adoption...
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bellax0x
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 3572 Location: Jersey Baby!
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Posted: 10-11-04 20:53pm
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Im completely pro choice
<3
gaby
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smith8500
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 6623 Location: Louisiana
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Posted: 10-11-04 20:58pm
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The only reason I am for rape abortion is
because (i would never do it....) but.....
I don't think someone should be forced to
carry the child of someone they didn't
consent to having sex with as well as....
Serial killers and phediophiles
(spelling?) have been linked to dna issues
and therefore if a serial rapest rapes
you.... There is a large chance that your
child may have that same problem. But
that isn't my main reasoning. I just
think that if you were raped.... You
should have a choice. Considering that
it's within the first 3 months of
conception.
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lauren22
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 647 Location: Alabama
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Posted: 10-11-04 21:06pm
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Chanda- why within the first 3 months of
conception?
Also, I dont believe serial killers and
rapists can be passed down genetically!
The reason things like that are "passed
down" is the way you are raised and family
issues. If your family has issues and a
child is brought up in that enviornment,
they are going to be affected by those
things. They may grow up to believe that
"getting revenge" on people is ok...And
who knows maybe that makes them think
killing is ok! But I dont think its
genetic...Or at least i've never heard of
that chromosome!
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smith8500
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 6623 Location: Louisiana
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Posted: 10-11-04 21:09pm
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Yes . It's been researched. Look up
derick todd lee here in louisiana and it
is just one example of dna make-up
affecting a person.
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LaurensEntourage
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 1302 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: 10-11-04 21:46pm
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Rape is traumatic enough, but imagine
having a souvenir? Most people aren't
capable of that emotionally. My sister
had an abortion,and I guess it was because
she was "inconvenienced". She had
finally gotten the courage to break up
with her violent, abusive boyfriend and
then found out she was pregnant. Now
she's happily married with three beautiful
girls and she thinks about that abortion
all the time. She feels devastated but
says plain and simple she wuldn't be where
she is today if she hadn't done it.
As far as parental concent... I think
that when you're forced to have to tell
your parents before taking b/c or having
an abortion is when girls go into third
world countries for abortions that are
done improperly or try it themselves (wire
hangers). All the morning after pill is
is a double dose of birth control. In my
opinion the morning after pill tempts fate
just as much as condoms or other birth
control.
I also believe that abortion should be
illegal for all or legal for all, not just
some. You don't have to tell the doctor
why you're getting an abortion, so you
should either be able to have one or not
be able to. The only exception being
partial birth abortion when medically
necessary which no one chooses to have.
There are so many reasons women have
abortions and for the few women who suck
and use abortion as a form of birth
control, well no system's perfect. There
will always be that select few who, well,
suck.
I think adoption is a beautiful and
wonderful option that should be made more
often, but i'm not every woman and I
believe in choice for all and not for
some. Abortion is legal for a reason and
it is a right women have fought for so I
stand by it. I think it's also a
beautiful thing that you have the right to
choose whether or not to do it and that if
you choose to, you can have it done by a
professional in a professional manner.
Well that's my story and i'm sticking to
it. Agree with it, don't agree with
it... I support your .C.H.O.I.C.E! And
because you can't tell the tone of my
"voice" as I am typing this, it's very
calm and serene and not erratic at all,
just my opinion.
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pitterpatter
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 619 Location: United States
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Posted: 10-11-04 21:55pm
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Bd1012 if you don't want kids go get your
tubes tied and get you bf fixed. Then
wear protection and take bc pills. If
you still get pregnant than you know that
it was meant to be. And like everyone
else here I don't agree with abortion
unless it's because of rape, or some harm
to the mother. Other than that if you
wanna have sex you should be prepared to
have a kid. If your that terrified of
having kids than yeah maybe you shouldn't
be having sex. I would tell that to a
teen and i'm telling that to you. If you
don't want kids don't have sex. It's as
simple as that. Otherwise you should
have to be prepared and if you do get
pregnant give the baby up for adoption.
God, what is with people these days!
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pitterpatter
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 619 Location: United States
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Posted: 10-11-04 22:07pm
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Oh about the genetic thing. I'm starting
to believe that too! My cousin was
adopted and he's a great little boy, but
he's the outcome of rape and the one thing
we found out is that he has an adhd thing
where he constantly argues with you and he
never thinks he's wrong about anything.
His behavior for the most part is good,
except with that. Which imagine a serial
killer with that! They would always
think they are right no matter what they
did. I'm not saying he would do anything
to anyone, but I do think he has a higher
chance of it than most people. God
forbid something ever happened. I don't
know what I would do.
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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Posted: 10-11-04 22:25pm
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| chandaloss
wrote: | | bd1012
wrote: | ok so I guess all married
couples shouldn't engage in any sexual
activity if they have strict plans on not
having kids,, at least not for a decent
amount of time....
sex is not the determining factor in
having kids, fertility and infertility is.
I strictly plan on never having any
kids.. So does that mean my husband
has to be celibate .F.O.R.E.V.E.R because
I don't wany any children whatsoever?
Yeah.. Get real.  |
if you don't want the kids..... Get on
b/c. Make him use condoms and when you
are able...............Have yor
reproductive organs removed or tie your
tubes. But do not tell me that if you
get preggy and it's an inconvience to you
that you are going to homicide a child.
That is sick. And if you won't like
kids and they are an inconvienece I don't
understand why you continue to post on
this forum. No, I am not telling you to
leave so dont' come at me with that "i'll
stay where I want b*ll$hit". I'm just
saying.
Anbd you can't stricty plan on not having
kids unless you have your tubes
tied/organs removed/or never have sex.
Because huni:
abortion does not make you un-pregnant; it
simply makes you the mother of a dead
child. |
it's funny.. When I was prolife as you
all were (i was pl when I first came here
fyi) I got chewed out by pcr's just as bad
as i'm getting chewed out by you all
prolifers now that i'm prochoice.. Btw..
I do plan on getting them tied in the
future.. But for .N.O.W. I am on depo
until I get the iud. It just proves that
there is .N.O safe stance on abortion
other than to be neutral and sometiems
that doesn't even put you in the safe
zone. Mommabear, I wasn't saying you
were a biotch.. I really wasn't trying to
be rude at all.. Sorry if I came off that
way..
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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Posted: 10-11-04 22:32pm
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| pitterpatter
wrote: | | bd1012 if you don't want
kids go get your tubes tied and get you bf
fixed. Then wear protection and take bc
pills. If you still get pregnant than
you know that it was meant to be. And
like everyone else here I don't agree with
abortion unless it's because of rape, or
some harm to the mother. Other than
that if you wanna have sex you should be
prepared to have a kid. If your that
terrified of having kids than yeah maybe
you shouldn't be having sex. I would
tell that to a teen and i'm telling that
to you. If you don't want kids don't
have sex. It's as simple as that.
Otherwise you should have to be prepared
and if you do get pregnant give the baby
up for adoption. God, what is with
people these
days! |
how about you don't tell me what to do and
stay out of my uterus.. I don't want kids
and I will have sex.. Why? Because I
said so and i"m on the most reliable form
of birth control that is out there besides
the iud which I have plans to get on and
if I dont want kids after the iud runs
out, I am getting my tubes tied.. I have
been on this form of bc for a year and
combined with hypothyroidism which can
mess with fertility and the fact that I
haven't had a single period in over a
year.. I'm not getting pregnant. What
is with you people these days trying to
make others go by your
morals?
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mommabear16
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 1222 Location: illinois
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Posted: 10-11-04 22:53pm
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Just doing it chill out okay?? God damn
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
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Posted: 10-11-04 23:14pm
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When bush can get pregnant than I will
listen to his views on abortion.
Giving out the morning after pill isn't
condoning unprotected or premarital sex.
It is simply allowing the people to take
charge of their lives/bodies and even
their mistakes.
A lot of people's parents would make them
carry the fetus full-term and then give
birth only for that child to be abused
right along with them.
I am prochoice all of the way and will
fight it all the way. We have too many
unwanted, abused and homeless children in
this world already. We don't need to
make all of these women carry fetuses only
to add to that number. And bush cannot
fall pregnant and therefore I don't think
should have any say whatsoever in
abortion.
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pitterpatter
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 619 Location: United States
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Posted: 10-11-04 23:46pm
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Okay it's one thing for you to say you
don't want kids, but it's another thing
for you to say I won't have kids. My
best friend doesn't want kids, but she
knows good and well that because she is
sexually active she has the chance of
having kids. It comes with the
territory. It's like saying I don't want
to go to jail, but I want to do drugs.
If you do drugs you have ot be prepared to
go to jail or pay a fine. I won't get in
a car accident, but i'll drive my own car.
I won't get std's, but i'll have sex.
These are all consequences of your
actions. The difference is you are
creating the opportunity to get pregnant
with a child and you are certain you will
kill it! Your nuts!
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sdwood2
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Jan 2004 Posts: 645 Location: KY
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Bd1012
Posted: 10-12-04 06:47am
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| bd1012
wrote: | | pitterpatter
wrote: | | bd1012 if you don't want
kids go get your tubes tied and get you bf
fixed. Then wear protection and take
bc pills. If you still get pregnant
than you know that it was meant to be.
And like everyone else here I don't agree
with abortion unless it's because of rape,
or some harm to the mother. Other than
that if you wanna have sex you should be
prepared to have a kid. If your that
terrified of having kids than yeah maybe
you shouldn't be having sex. I would
tell that to a teen and i'm telling that
to you. If you don't want kids don't
have sex. It's as simple as that.
Otherwise you should have to be prepared
and if you do get pregnant give the baby
up for adoption. God, what is with
people these
days! |
how about you don't tell me what to do and
stay out of my uterus.. I don't want
kids and I will have sex.. Why?
Because I said so and i"m on the most
reliable form of birth control that is out
there besides the iud which I have plans
to get on and if I dont want kids after
the iud runs out, I am getting my tubes
tied.. I have been on this form of bc
for a year and combined with
hypothyroidism which can mess with
fertility and the fact that I haven't had
a single period in over a year.. I'm not
getting pregnant. What is with you
people these days trying to make others
go by your
morals? |
lol most reliable form of birth control
that is out there besides the iud lol the
most reliable is not having sex and this
hypothyroidism which can mess with
fertility un let me tell you if you think
that is also why you have not got pg think
agin there are all kinds of people with
kids that have this and I am one of them I
also think its funny how you keep talking
about it like thats why you never got pg.
And another thing you can get pg on the
depo its has happened so just get over it
stop saying the same thing over and over
again we know you have hypothyroidism and
that you think you are on the most
reliable form of birth control that is out
there but if you dont want to have kids
then why are you even in here. You also
like to turn peoples words around and I am
sick of it.
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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Posted: 10-12-04 09:52am
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I am not turning anyone's words around and
last time I checked, there was no rule
stating that you had to be ttc or want to
have kids in order to be in this forum.
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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Posted: 10-12-04 10:07am
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| pitterpatter
wrote: | | okay it's one thing for you
to say you don't want kids, but it's
another thing for you to say I won't have
kids. My best friend doesn't want kids,
but she knows good and well that because
she is sexually active she has the chance
of having kids. It comes with the
territory. It's like saying I don't
want to go to jail, but I want to do
drugs. If you do drugs you have ot be
prepared to go to jail or pay a fine. I
won't get in a car accident, but i'll
drive my own car. I won't get std's,
but i'll have sex. These are all
consequences of your actions. The
difference is you are creating the
opportunity to get pregnant with a child
and you are certain you will kill it!
Your nuts! |
i am certain I will kill it? When did I
ever say that?? I am not fighting so I
can abort.. I am fighting for the right..
In case I would ever need to for some
reason.. I will prob give it up for
adoption but I never said I will def
abort. Talk about twisting words..
Ever heard the saying "i don't agree with
what you're saying, but I will fight for
your right to say it"?
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pitterpatter
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 619 Location: United States
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Posted: 10-12-04 12:09pm
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Okay, why are you getting so pissed? If
you don't like this conversation than go
on a pro choice trip in the abortion area.
Right now though your on a pregnancy
forum and people don't feel as passionate
as you about abortion. Sorry hun, but
the way you say things just makes it seem
that you would abort no matter what and
that you pretty much hate kids. So yeah,
maybe I twisted your words, but your so
damm cold to me I don't care if what I say
angers you off. You should know better
than to preach to people who love
children. Why are you on this pregnancy
board anyways if you don't want kids.
That just doesn't make sense! Honey, I
think you need to find a different board
because everyone here either wants a baby
either now or someday down the road or has
one and they love children! So if you
want to preach about your abortion
addiction than please go somewhere else.
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mommabear16
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 1222 Location: illinois
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Posted: 10-12-04 12:12pm
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So here is the thought..She believes what
she believes...
Bd- we believe what we believe
drop it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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Posted: 10-12-04 12:13pm
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| Quote: |
tr> | why are you on
this pregnancy board anyways if you don't
want kids. |
i am going to make a seperate topic on
this becuase I keep getting asked it over
and over and over..
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pitterpatter
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 619 Location: United States
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Posted: 10-12-04 12:14pm
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Meaning that hmmm.... Maybe you shouldn't
be on here right? Now that's a smart
idea you smarty!
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